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Title: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 04:07:31 PM
It is with the greatest regret, on behalf of our Board, that we must announce that Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations as of this afternoon, and that the Company will file soon under Chapter 7 of the Bankruptcy Code to carry out an orderly winding-down of the business.

The very difficult economic environment has had a significant impact on Air America's business. This past year has seen a "perfect storm" in the media industry generally. National and local advertising revenues have fallen drastically, causing many media companies nationwide to fold or seek bankruptcy protection. From large to small, recent bankruptcies like Citadel Broadcasting and closures like that of the industry's long-time trade publication Radio and Records have signaled that these are very difficult and rapidly changing times.


http://airamerica.com/


BWAhahaha...
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Duke Nukum on January 21, 2010, 04:11:54 PM
A good time to revisit Left of the Dial.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 04:12:24 PM
Iz gettin' drunk tonight! Hooooooooray!!!!!!!1111
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 04:15:35 PM
Iz gettin' drunk tonight! Hooooooooray!!!!!!!1111

'Cept for the market, it's been a pretty good week.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Chris_ on January 21, 2010, 04:17:45 PM
Someone want to burn a mole and let the DUmmies know........they have had such a good week after all......

doc
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 04:21:00 PM
Hellfire...oh wait, I own some of Diageo. It's still a good week.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 04:21:22 PM
Someone want to burn a mole and let the DUmmies know........they have had such a good week after all......

doc

Could be a fun evening.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Chris_ on January 21, 2010, 04:23:08 PM
Could be a fun evening.

There are four "guests" viewing, so I suspect that it won't require a mole after all.....

doc
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: dutch508 on January 21, 2010, 04:23:26 PM
gotz to visit los DUmpmonkiez!
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 21, 2010, 04:24:54 PM
Rove, you magnificent bastard!!!

 :rotf:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Chris_ on January 21, 2010, 04:26:11 PM
They know.......

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,39551.0/topicseen.html#msg429454

doc
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 04:26:35 PM
gotz to visit los DUmpmonkiez!

I can't wait to hear who they blame it on...
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 04:28:39 PM
This is awesome news, what a month for the DUmmies.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Tucker on January 21, 2010, 04:29:07 PM
Damn. Two melt downs at the DUmp this week and this is only Thursday. :lmao:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 04:41:45 PM
Wait till' they figure out Lenin died on this date.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 04:43:48 PM
Wait till' the figure out Lenin died on this date.
:-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Carl on January 21, 2010, 04:50:30 PM
 :lmao: :cheersmate: :rotf: :-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: thundley4 on January 21, 2010, 04:55:57 PM
I haven't looked at the threads from the DUmp about this , but I'm guessing more calls for the Fairness Doctrine to be reinstated.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 04:56:11 PM
lol.... this the end... my friend...

time for depopulation of DUmmieland by mass suicide.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 05:25:06 PM
Anyone wanna pick up the corporate/llc names in Delaware?  They're available
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 05:26:27 PM
Anyone wanna pick up the corporate/llc names in Delaware?  They're available


That could be fun. No money at all here. Aaron Burr??
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 05:36:10 PM
That could be fun. No money at all here. Aaron Burr??

The big bee-itch is having a registered agent in Delaware - even the little hole-in-the-wall places want north of $100 per year to act as a glorified mailbox.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: bkg on January 21, 2010, 05:41:21 PM
No bailout? :confused:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 05:42:25 PM
No bailout? :confused:

Whaddya think they did when they bought Franken that senate seat?  That was the bailout there, my friend.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: bkg on January 21, 2010, 05:44:35 PM
Whaddya think they did when they bought Franken that senate seat?  That was the bailout there, my friend.

But they're still going under, right? So what did Franken get them, if anything (honest question), above and beyond embarrassing the state of MN?
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 05:45:57 PM
That could be fun. No money at all here. Aaron Burr??

I got nothin' east of the Mississippi until you get to Andora. And that's more of a safe house considering they don't have an extradition treaty with us.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 05:52:48 PM
Anyone wanna contribute to holding the corporate names in shell entities?
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: bkg on January 21, 2010, 05:53:32 PM
Anyone wanna contribute to holding the corporate names in shell entities?


:raises hand:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 05:54:46 PM
Should I get up a quickie costs spreadsheet to put up here?
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: bkg on January 21, 2010, 05:57:20 PM
Should I get up a quickie costs spreadsheet to put up here?


Please include tax deduction opportunities.  :-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 05:57:59 PM
Please include tax deduction opportunities.  :-)

Okey-dokey.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 06:00:36 PM
I'm in. I'll just put the brakes on KillHippyLLC for a lil' while. Do we need a board of directors for any of these? I don't want to run any, being content with a V.P. position. Yes, Aaron Burr is all about Vice.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 06:01:33 PM
I'm in. I'll just put the brakes on KillHippyLLC for a lil' while. Do we need a board of directors for any of these? I don't want to run any, being content with a V.P. position. Yes, Aaron Burr is all about Vice.

Can a shell corp be owned by a shell corp if its owned by another shell corp?
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: bkg on January 21, 2010, 06:02:10 PM
Can a shell corp be owned by a shell corp if its owned by another shell corp?

only if you're in DC.  :-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 06:08:05 PM
Mythsage should incorporate...

Paranormalsexcrimenovels LLC
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 06:08:34 PM
The big bee-itch is having a registered agent in Delaware - even the little hole-in-the-wall places want north of $100 per year to act as a glorified mailbox.

Actually, I have access to several addresses in Delaware. How can I be of service?
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 06:12:10 PM
I'm in. I'll just put the brakes on KillHippyLLC for a lil' while. Do we need a board of directors for any of these? I don't want to run any, being content with a V.P. position. Yes, Aaron Burr is all about Vice.
All that's really needed is a one-person skeleton crew to keep the corporate minute books and file the annual franchise returns.

Can a shell corp be owned by a shell corp if its owned by another shell corp?

Yup.  As a nice little matter of theoretical corporate law, I've always wondered if one could legally maintain a corporate structure formed in round-robin fashion so that, ultimately, there were no individuals acting as shareholders.  However, in this instance we wouldn't need to even go that far.  The simplest structure would probably be to form a parent corp as the hold-co, with every other entity wholly-owned by the parent (directly or indirectly through chains of subsidiaries), the LLCs would be single-member entities and thus disregarded for federal and most state/local tax purposes), the parent would elect S-corp status, thereby basically providing flow-through treatment for federal and most state/local tax purposes, and the parent would elect to treat all of the subsidiary corps as QSubs, which would result in them being disregarded for federal and most state/local tax purposes.  There would be a few places where the entities should not be held - NYC being one of the principal no-go places - but in general, most states/localities have seen the wisdom of tracking the federal treatment, so in most places the end result would be look as if the shareholder had one S-corp with a number of different divisions or branches and, because the entire structure would be passive, would not own any assets or conduct any business or investment activities, there would be very little tax effect, other than a possible tax deduction for the annual registered agent fees (I want to double-check on that before I state it as a fact), which, if allowed, would flow through to the individual shareholder at the apex of the structure.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 06:13:53 PM
Just tell me where to send the fuggin' check. I want some new stationary.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 06:16:20 PM
Actually, I have access to several addresses in Delaware. How can I be of service?

By agreeing to act as the registered agent, which would make it possible to file everything without having to go to one of the companies that do it as a business, like the Corporation Trust Company (not to knock them or their business model - they provide a fantastic service, but I am trying to think of how to accomplish this with the absolute bare minimum of financial layout - it must be the Scots in me coming to the surface :D ).

That would basically entail receiving copies of stuff like the annual franchise tax returns, other correspondence from the State of Delaware, and of anything that was filed with the Del. Secretary of State.  In practice, since these would all be passive, inert shell entities, the only real work would be receiving the annual franchise report returns in the mail from the Del. Secretary of State, and forwarding them on to whomever is acting as the shareholder/director/officers for the entities.

To be clear, a registered agent has almost no exposure to liability in connection with the entities for which she or he acts as registered agent.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 06:17:52 PM
We need to move on this ASAP. Some unscrupulous bastard may beat us to the punch.

How to Scam (http://www.legalzoom.com/limited-liability-company/limited-liability-company-pricing.html)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 06:21:42 PM
By agreeing to act as the registered agent, which would make it possible to file everything without having to go to one of the companies that do it as a business, like the Corporation Trust Company (not to knock them or their business model - they provide a fantastic service, but I am trying to think of how to accomplish this with the absolute bare minimum of financial layout - it must be the Scots in me coming to the surface :D ).

That would basically entail receiving copies of stuff like the annual franchise tax returns, other correspondence from the State of Delaware, and of anything that was filed with the Del. Secretary of State.  In practice, since these would all be passive, inert shell entities, the only real work would be receiving the annual franchise report returns in the mail from the Del. Secretary of State, and forwarding them on to whomever is acting as the shareholder/director/officers for the entities.

To be clear, a registered agent has almost no exposure to liability in connection with the entities for which she or he acts as registered agent.

Now I happen to know one ex-sos of Del. Easy for me to get the info.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 06:26:16 PM
To be clear, a registered agent has almost no exposure to liability in connection with the entities for which she or he acts as registered agent.

This is actually interesting.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 06:28:40 PM
Great. I'll make you an intern.

I'll write a check tonight if BKG Spec and Oceander are in. $100 buy in and we'll make the rat bastards rue the fuggin' day they were born.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 06:29:07 PM
We need to move on this ASAP. Some unscrupulous bastard may beat us to the punch.

How to Scam (http://www.legalzoom.com/limited-liability-company/limited-liability-company-pricing.html)

Ok.  The thing to keep in mind is, unless qualifications to do business were filed in all fifty states, anyone else would still be able to form entities in other states with the same names - what I've proposed just grabs the Delaware entities, which are usually the most popular with corporate types (because Del. corporate law is the most efficient to work with) - but doesn't lock the names up in any other state unless there is some sort of filiing, like a foreign entity filing, that puts the names onto the records of the relevant Secretary of State.  That can be done, and maintained quite easily via a computer, but it does entail more cost and expense, for the initial filing as well as for annual franchise taxes (almost all states impose a minimum tax of around $100 per year).

To get a practical effect of tying up the names, one would not really have to hit all of the other states, getting the big commercial states - CA, NY, IL, and the like - would in practice achieve the desired end, but it would increase upfront and annual costs.

Now, as to basic formation costs, the filing fees schedule for Delaware is here (http://corp.delaware.gov/Aug09feesch.pdf).

Provided one doesn't want super-expedited service, it would cost about $89 to incorporate a corporation ($139 if one selected the 24-hour expedited filing option, which adds $50 to the filing fee).  Forming an LLC costs about $90 for standard filing, $140 if one chooses the 24-hour expedited filing option.

The basic forms that have to be completed, executed, and returned for filing can also be got from the Del. SoS' website, here (http://corp.delaware.gov/formsentitytype09.shtml), and filing them out is really not that big of a chore, particularly if you're really just going for a basic inert shell corp/shell LLC formation.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 06:31:36 PM
Sigh. Eventually you lawyer types are going to figure out how to charge by the keystroke.

So it's 5 grand to lock this thing up? Let's just start with a couple of states first. One of them being Az and/or Cali.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 06:32:05 PM
Wait a sec. what happens if one of the entities actually tries to make money? Does that complicate matters?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 06:41:01 PM
Now, I need to go to Wilmington one of these days anyway so it might as well be tomorrow. Am familiar with the State office building. Been there many times. Could walk this stuff through if necessary...now tell me what we might due with this LLC.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
Personally, I was hoping to form some sort of Ponzi scheme. But it doesn't matter. I just wants it.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 06:46:43 PM
Personally, I was hoping to form some sort of Ponzi scheme. But it doesn't matter. I just wants it.

So for the time being, we just want the name?
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 06:47:03 PM
Wait a sec. what happens if one of the entities actually tries to make money? Does that complicate matters?  :popcorn:

Yes it does.  That shouldn't be done without a lot of thought being put into it first.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 06:48:40 PM
Lets just secure a couple of those LLC names first. We can worry about suing the pants off each other later.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 06:48:53 PM
Yes it does.  That shouldn't be done without a lot of thought being put into it first.

I guess doing the minutes would be easy if the meeting is in a message forum.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 06:53:49 PM
Yes it does.  That shouldn't be done without a lot of thought being put into it first.

Should we move this conversation into private and delete all these posts.  :naughty:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 06:55:03 PM
No. Let the lefties gnash their teeth and wail.

I've secured Mrs. Burrs blessing on this endeavor.

Time to pony up people.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 06:57:11 PM
Oh. And as for money making schemes, I was thinking of some sort of puppy euthanasia mobile factory. Whatever makes the most eyeballs explode.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 07:00:21 PM
Oh. And as for money making schemes, I was thinking of some sort of puppy euthanasia mobile factory. Whatever makes the most eyeballs explode.

All right. The paperwork is pretty simple and I'll pay the 90 bucks just for fun.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 07:01:02 PM
So for the time being, we just want the name?

At this point, basically.  Now, if people don't mind a little extra cost up-front, we could simply formally reserve the names for 120 days for a $75 dollar fee per name.  We're basically looking at 2 names, "Air America, Inc." and "Air America, LLC" so, to act as expeditiously as possible, we could get a reservation hold on those two names for 120 days for a cost of $150.

Of course, that $150 is gone once the reservation runs out, and it cannot be used as a credit against any other fees, like a formation fee.  It would, however, simplify the logistics of grabbing the names before anyone else can, and then giving some leisure to work out the formation matters - or even to find buyers willing to pay good money to obtain the rights to the names.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 07:04:30 PM
At this point, basically.  Now, if people don't mind a little extra cost up-front, we could simply formally reserve the names for 120 days for a $75 dollar fee per name.  We're basically looking at 2 names, "Air America, Inc." and "Air America, LLC" so, to act as expeditiously as possible, we could get a reservation hold on those two names for 120 days for a cost of $150.

Of course, that $150 is gone once the reservation runs out, and it cannot be used as a credit against any other fees, like a formation fee.  It would, however, simplify the logistics of grabbing the names before anyone else can, and then giving some leisure to work out the formation matters - or even to find buyers willing to pay good money to obtain the rights to the names.

but for 90 bucks a name we have them for a year?

Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 07:10:28 PM
Ace of Spades headline:

Air America Off The Air - Actually Almost Nobody Hardest Hit
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 07:11:17 PM
but for 90 bucks a name we have them for a year?



For $90 bucks you have them until you get so far behind in your franchise taxes that the secretary of state files a delinquency dissolution against you, and even then, if you can show equity, you can still get the name back (provided you pay off the taxes).

So, in terms of bang for the buck, it is much better to just file the skeleton formation papers rather than paying to reserve the name only.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 07:11:37 PM
Sweet mother of Kiley Minougue, don't you guys think Rush or some other talking head would spend some dough to have these names? Let's just get them first.

Again. I have a pen in my hand, hovering over a checkbook. $100 to start. Between us this shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 07:16:04 PM
I don't have a dime. lol. But I do have a story posted at Libertyfic you apparently haven't read yet, Aaron Burr.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 07:21:14 PM
Black the whites of my eyes! Where the Hell is my coffee, intern?

Gentlemen, time is fuggin' money. I have the utmost confidence in Oceander and Specbid (as long as the race track isn't on the way to the SOS office). Everything else is secondary. We need to act as expeditiously as possible on this matter. I desire those corporate names for the wall of my den or office.

It's also a great money making scheme.

I'm feeling reckless, I advise you all to take advantage of this condition for as long as it lasts.

Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 07:38:41 PM
Ok.  If we're going to get them, and do it by forming them, then we need to have the following squared away:

(i) we have a member who can walk in to the division of corporations to hand file the formation documents, correct?

If (i) is true, then that member will be the so-called "incorporator" for the corporation and the so-called "Authorized Person" for the LLC and will be signing their real name to the formation documents.  Make sure you're ok with your name being on the documents in the Secretary of State's records.  It won't lead to anything because for the most part everyone knows that the incorporator is nothing more than an agent - like a paralegal - acting for an undisclosed principal.  Also, once the shareholders purchase their shares (usually for no more than the par value, here $0.01 per share), and the directors are appointed, the incorporator's obligations and responsibilities fall away and no liability attaches.  If you have any concerns about that, please ask me.

(ii) we have a member who is willing/able to act as the registered agent, correct?

If (ii) is true, then that member needs to provide his name and the Delaware address he will be using to act as registered agent to the member in (i) who will be filing the papers, so that the name and address can be filled in on the formation form at the offices of the division of corporations.

(iii) we will form two entities, (A) the first, a corporation, will be named "Air America, Inc." (that exact spelling), will be authorized to issue up to 1,000 shares of common stock, with a par value of $0.01 per share (that will ensure that the filing fee isn't jacked up by the implied capitalization of the corporation), and will have a registered office and registered agent at the address specified by the member in (ii) above, and using that member's name; and (B) the second, a limited liability company, will be named "Air America, LLC" (that exact spelling), and will have a registered office and a registered agent at the address provided by the local member in (ii) above, using that member's real name.

The two formation documents, which can be downloaded, filled out, and printed and executed beforehand, can be downloaded here:

(x) Stock Corporation (http://corp.delaware.gov/incstk09.pdf), and
(y) Limited Liability Company (http://corp.delaware.gov/llcform09.pdf)

These should be downloaded, filled in, printed, and executed by the member in (i) above who is going to do the actual filing.  That member will also have to be ready to pony up the filing fees of $179, and would then be reimbursed by the rest of us for each of our pro-rata shares of those costs.

Once that is done, and the stamped copy of the filed document is returned to the member in (i) above who acts as the incorporator/authorized person, the entities belong to us, and we can then work out the details with a little bit of leisure.

Keep in mind, until shares of stock in the corporation are issued to a shareholder for the corporation, or a valid, binding Operating Agreement is executed by the single member of the LLC, the incorporator/authorized person will technically be the only person with the authority to cause the entities to do anything, and so they will belong to him until such time as we work everything out.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 07:40:30 PM
I don't have a dime. lol. But I do have a story posted at Libertyfic you apparently haven't read yet, Aaron Burr.  :whatever:

I don't have a lot, but I can chip in 1/3 or 1/4 of the formation costs of $179 (at thirds, that would be $59.67 ~ $60 per person, and at fourths would be $44.75 ~ $45 per person).

Any questions anyone?
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 07:46:23 PM
One question. What address do I send my $100 to? P.M. me before the power goes out here. This winter storm is a whicked pissah.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
One question. What address do I send my $100 to? P.M. me before the power goes out here. This winter storm is a whicked pissah.

Should go to Specbid.  We should probably all go "private" on this one, now.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 07:55:27 PM
Done.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 08:08:24 PM
I don't have a lot, but I can chip in 1/3 or 1/4 of the formation costs of $179 (at thirds, that would be $59.67 ~ $60 per person, and at fourths would be $44.75 ~ $45 per person).

Any questions anyone?

Are you assuming the corporate name is going to lapse? All of this seems to be based on them being too stupid to retain the name as an asset to sale.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Spirit of Ronald Reagan on January 21, 2010, 08:16:32 PM
Damn AB, you didn't tell me there'd be work involved with this.  I was informed of a plot to annoy liberals and I want in.  Burr can vouch for me, and if not he'll feel the wrath of my pack of rabid, striped alpacas. 
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: bkg on January 21, 2010, 08:22:09 PM
I don't have a lot, but I can chip in 1/3 or 1/4 of the formation costs of $179 (at thirds, that would be $59.67 ~ $60 per person, and at fourths would be $44.75 ~ $45 per person).

Any questions anyone?

Yes - where do I send the PayPal?  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 08:24:14 PM
Are you assuming the corporate name is going to lapse? All of this seems to be based on them being too stupid to retain the name as an asset to sale.

The names are available in Delaware as far as I can tell.  The Delaware SoS'es website has a name-check function that allows you to check to see if a name for a particular type of entity is available - they coyly say that there's no guarantee that it will still be available when you file your actual papers, but I have never had, or heard of anyone having, a name show as available on that website and then end up not being available if the papers were filed quickly enough.

So, whatever names the bankruptcy estate has, they do not include the Delaware corporate name of "Air America, Inc." or the Delaware LLC name of "Air America, LLC"
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 08:25:12 PM
Yes - where do I send the PayPal?  :evillaugh:

As soon as we get a mailing address from Specbid, all monies should go to Specbid.  When I get the address I'll include you in the private message cc: sending it around to everyone.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 08:26:14 PM
The names are available in Delaware as far as I can tell.  The Delaware SoS'es website has a name-check function that allows you to check to see if a name for a particular type of entity is available - they coyly say that there's no guarantee that it will still be available when you file your actual papers, but I have never had, or heard of anyone having, a name show as available on that website and then end up not being available if the papers were filed quickly enough.

So, whatever names the bankruptcy estate has, they do not include the Delaware corporate name of "Air America, Inc." or the Delaware LLC name of "Air America, LLC"

Interesting...
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: bkg on January 21, 2010, 08:26:54 PM
MN SOS site:

Quote
Entity Type ID  City  State  Cross Reference  
49844 Air Alliance  ANI  Mpls  MN    
5X-785 Air Alliance Express, Inc.  DCI  Blmgtn  MN    
983573-2 Air America Heating & Cooling, Inc.  DC  Blaine  MN    
2A-152 Air America, Inc.  DCI  Hopkins  MN    
8D-835 Air America, Inc.  DCI  Champlin  MN    
1166655-4 Air America Minnesota  AN  Eden Prair  MN    
3164404-2 Air America Refrigeration  AN  Buffalo  MN    
3164422-2 Air America Refrigeration, LLC  LLC  Buffalo  MN    

My Mom lives in Champlin... She better not...
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: bkg on January 21, 2010, 08:27:30 PM
As soon as we get a mailing address from Specbid, all monies should go to Specbid.  When I get the address I'll include you in the private message cc: sending it around to everyone.

THX!
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on January 21, 2010, 08:31:49 PM
Virgina. Massachussetts. New Jersey. Obamacare DOA. Cap & Tax DOA. McCain/Feinold DOA. DingleBarry sinking in the polls. We have them run the run. Come November we'll have them on their knees. That's when we go for the jugular and finish them off. 

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

-Thomas Jefferson
 :-) :-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: bkg on January 21, 2010, 08:34:41 PM
Instead of President, VP, COO, CIO, etc...

Can we have Czars? Vice Czars. Chief Operating Czars? etc?  I've always wanted to be a Czar. Think it could be fun.  :-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Mike220 on January 21, 2010, 08:38:18 PM
This could be fun. I can spare at least $50 for a buy-in.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 08:56:50 PM
I just want to be Vice. Also, I want that embossed letter head on my stationary. We may end up selling it to Rush, or have him auction it off for some charity...(after we deduct expenses)

Or we may just keep it to churn out vile and incendiary right wing propaganda on youtube. It's just a win win win all the way around.

Ah. And I can definitely vouch for Spirit of Ronald Reagan. My man in the tar heel state.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Spirit of Ronald Reagan on January 21, 2010, 08:59:54 PM
So for tax purposes, can we consider this a charitable donation?  I mean we are giving our hard earned money to buy some desolated liberal train wreck.

If not, do we at least get a quarterly stock holders update?  
"During the second quarter of 2010 we've managed to pi$$ off ____ liberals.  With your share of __%, your dividend this quarter is __ angry and suicidal libs."  
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 09:05:56 PM
Sweet. I'll kick in for the leather bound portfolios these will come in since so many people are kicking in for the initial expense of buying this P.O.S. operation.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Spirit of Ronald Reagan on January 21, 2010, 09:16:45 PM
Let's add some conservative class to the portfolios.  Wrap them in snow leopard skin and have it play the dean scream when you open it.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 09:42:13 PM
O.K. signing off for the night. I seem to be incurring the wrath of God with the weather for some reason. I'll check back in in the A.M.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Odin's Hand on January 21, 2010, 09:47:03 PM
We are just $10 away!
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Mike220 on January 21, 2010, 10:02:13 PM
Or we may just keep it to churn out vile and incendiary right wing propaganda on youtube. It's just a win win win all the way around.

This has my vote. Anything to make DUmbass heads assplode. We could have the beginnings of a great startup here.  :-)

Imagine us making Queef Oberdork's Worst Person (People?) in the World one day. I would wear that like a badge of honor.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 21, 2010, 10:09:15 PM
This has my vote. Anything to make DUmbass heads assplode. We could have the beginnings of a great startup here.  :-)

Imagine us making Queef Oberdork's Worst Person (People?) in the World one day. I would wear that like a badge of honor.

Thats sounds fun doesn't it?
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Specbid on January 21, 2010, 10:09:30 PM
This has my vote. Anything to make DUmbass heads assplode. We could have the beginnings of a great startup here.  :-)

Imagine us making Queef Oberdork's Worst Person (People?) in the World one day. I would wear that like a badge of honor.

Patience Grasshopper... :naughty:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 10:31:04 PM
MN SOS site:

My Mom lives in Champlin... She better not...

Thanks for grabbing that info.  Did the records say whether or not the entities were still in good standing, or if they'd been dissolved?  It doesn't suprise me that they would have set it all up using Minnesota entities.  Once we get our feet wet in Delaware, it would be useful to try and do a 50-state check to see how many states they left unguarded - it might be possible to hit the strategic states and put together a family of wholly-owned subs and single-member LLCs that effectively gives us the rights to use the corporate names in most of the places where libs live.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 10:35:24 PM
We are just $10 away!

Balderdash. Not only will I cover that. I'll throw Mr. Bid some dough for doing the leg work. I'd toss some dough to Mr. Ocean, but I'm sure the massive lawsuits we will incur will more than fill his coffers...just toss the rest in the money bin or swimming pool. I'm sure all of us will be tarred with highly profitable scorn and infamy as a result of this.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Mike220 on January 21, 2010, 10:43:08 PM
I've checked the Texas SOS site. They charge a fee to do a search. It's only $1 each, so I can cover that if we want to look here. The filing fees are much steeper here, though. Corps and LLCs are $300 each to file for the Certificate of Formation. Not sure if it would be worth it unless we were actually going to be trying to make a profit. 
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 21, 2010, 10:50:13 PM
I've checked the Texas SOS site. They charge a fee to do a search. It's only $1 each, so I can cover that if we want to look here. The filing fees are much steeper here, though. Corps and LLCs are $300 each to file for the Certificate of Formation. Not sure if it would be worth it unless we were actually going to be trying to make a profit. 

Thanks Mike220.  As much as I love Texas, though, I would agree with you that it's not really worth doing the full filing right now.  I think if we aim for strategic coverage in the major liberal markets (we could probably get Austin thrown in for free on that account), we can get strategic coverage without having to hit every state.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 21, 2010, 11:21:17 PM
Just created a youtube account for... THE REAL AIR AMERICA.

Sons a b!tches won't know what hit em'.

So we got that workin' for us anyway.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Spirit of Ronald Reagan on January 21, 2010, 11:31:44 PM
If we really want to get serious about this we could pose as libs trying to revamp and sell some IPOs for it.  Then see if like Limbaugh & Beck will give us a couple plugs on their shows.  If libs are going to claim us conservatives like to exploit people who are we to call them liars.  We could use the profits to buy some time on Rush's show to publicly thank the investors for giving us their money.  With whatever is left over we could use to buy chainsaws and cut down trees that spotted owls are using for nesting. 
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 22, 2010, 07:39:44 AM
Also consider this:

Web-casting.

You have technologies from places like winamp.com that allow broacasting content over the web.

Draw up a programming format (a list of the content you're looking for an NOT looking for) then blast the Tea Party organization to A) alert their members to listen an B) SUBMIT content.

As anathema as it may sound we would need to develop editorial standards and oversight so some Ronulan from stormfront doesn't weasel in but if we give the Tea Party a broadcasting platform built on the moldering bones of a failed liberal enterprise the irony alone would gain national attention.

IF--and this is a mighty big if--it ever got big enough advertisers asked for airtime and it ever became profitable I would strongly suggest being a non-profit. The Tea Party already has a problem with being formed as a for-profit enterprise by someone who didn't bother to consult the rest of the groups around the nation. We would be scrutinized by ever liberal and media outfit (is that too redundant?) just aching for anything no matter how innocuous to nail us on.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 07:43:19 AM
Also consider this:

Web-casting.

You have technologies from places like winamp.com that allow broacasting content over the web.

Or blogtalkradio. Anyone can have a radio show at blogtalkradio I would think, heh.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 22, 2010, 08:11:35 AM
Or blogtalkradio. Anyone can have a radio show at blogtalkradio I would think, heh.
Either or another.

It also has the virtue of being podcastable.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: bkg on January 22, 2010, 12:19:23 PM

Anyone considered flipping it?

Sell it to Beck, Limbaugh or Hannity... Heads would explode the moment you heard "...from the golden Air America microphone...".  :rotf:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 01:30:32 PM
Anyone considered flipping it?

Sell it to Beck, Limbaugh or Hannity... Heads would explode the moment you heard "...from the golden Air America microphone...".  :rotf:

we would hear popping noises all over the place like in the movie "When Mars Attacks" where the Slim Whitman song is heard by the aliens
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 22, 2010, 01:36:56 PM
Just created a youtube account for... THE REAL AIR AMERICA.

Sons a b!tches won't know what hit em'.

So we got that workin' for us anyway.

Good.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: NHSparky on January 22, 2010, 01:43:09 PM
we would hear popping noises all over the place like in the movie "When Mars Attacks" where the Slim Whitman song is heard by the aliens

Classic...

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MhgnMX73Pw[/youtube]
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 22, 2010, 01:43:25 PM
uuunnnnnnnnnnnnngggg. .....what the fug?1!??? I'm buying a defunct radio station??? WHat happened last night?

Oh...right.

HHmmm. I seem to be a new member of the Alpaca of the month club.....and it looks like I may have to cancel my check to this place.          Big Ass Tanks (http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale.htm)

Gah.

O.K. I can deal with this. Checks in the mail to Specbid and I say we immediately start selling shares to cover start up costs. I'll go to the store and check into buying a camera for the youtube site.

Meanwhile, someone sticky this wicked awesome thread.

Oh. And I have a bunch of Mexican nationals lined up outside my front door waiting to be interviewed for some "nanny" position.....?....fug it, I'm calling INS and going back to bed.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 22, 2010, 01:49:39 PM
we would hear popping noises all over the place like in the movie "When Mars Attacks" where the Slim Whitman song is heard by the aliens

Like little bits of liberal popcorn:

(http://www.pack942.com/images/Animated%20-%20popcorn2.gif)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 05:12:56 PM
He or she or it is posting that on every thread
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afterno
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 05:16:06 PM
I just miss Tevez.

What is Tevez??

I have no idea.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afterno
Post by: Alpha Mare on January 22, 2010, 05:26:28 PM
What is Tevez??

I have no idea.

Soccer
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afterno
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
Soccer

oohhh... Manchester United?

lol

Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afterno
Post by: Duke Nukum on January 22, 2010, 05:28:19 PM
Soccer
I had no idea what it was but since he was posting it everywhere,  I found one of the rare occasions to use the "report to moderator" function.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afterno
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 06:07:21 PM
I had no idea what it was but since he was posting it everywhere,  I found one of the rare occasions to use the "report to moderator" function.

Was that some kind of teenager? Male you think? I thought only females would get that obsessed with something on TV
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Randy on January 22, 2010, 07:43:53 PM
When you take this public I'll be one of the first to grab some shares.  :-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: jinxmchue on January 22, 2010, 07:49:12 PM
It is with the greatest regret, on behalf of our Board, that we must announce that Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations as of this afternoon, and that the Company will file soon under Chapter 7 of the Bankruptcy Code to carry out an orderly winding-down of the business.

The very difficult economic environment has had a significant impact on Air America's business. This past year has seen a "perfect storm" in the media industry generally. National and local advertising revenues have fallen drastically, causing many media companies nationwide to fold or seek bankruptcy protection. From large to small, recent bankruptcies like Citadel Broadcasting and closures like that of the industry's long-time trade publication Radio and Records have signaled that these are very difficult and rapidly changing times.


http://airamerica.com/


BWAhahaha...

That rush of schadenfreude was almost as enjoyable as an orgasm.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Schadenfreude on January 22, 2010, 07:51:25 PM
That rush of schadenfreude was almost as enjoyable as an orgasm.

I saw ya online, I had to see what you were saying...... I'm blushing dude.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Randy on January 22, 2010, 08:03:32 PM
I saw ya online, I had to see what you were saying...... I'm blushing dude.

Red is your color.  :-*
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Schadenfreude on January 22, 2010, 08:11:09 PM
Red is your color.  :-*

Go check out the other Air America thread in the lounge, it involves pole dancing lessons for Schade.  :-*
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Randy on January 22, 2010, 08:38:02 PM
Go check out the other Air America thread in the lounge, it involves pole dancing lessons for Schade.  :-*

I'll be there before this even posts!  :-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Randy on January 22, 2010, 09:17:40 PM
uuunnnnnnnnnnnnngggg. .....what the fug?1!??? I'm buying a defunct radio station??? WHat happened last night?

Oh...right.

HHmmm. I seem to be a new member of the Alpaca of the month club.....and it looks like I may have to cancel my check to this place.          Big Ass Tanks (http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale.htm)

Gah.

O.K. I can deal with this. Checks in the mail to Specbid and I say we immediately start selling shares to cover start up costs. I'll go to the store and check into buying a camera for the youtube site.

Meanwhile, someone sticky this wicked awesome thread.

Oh. And I have a bunch of Mexican nationals lined up outside my front door waiting to be interviewed for some "nanny" position.....?....fug it, I'm calling INS and going back to bed.

I'd like to apply for the position of Sergent @ Arms/Designated Driver for the Board of Director meetings.  :-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Mike220 on January 22, 2010, 09:22:13 PM
I'd like to apply for the position of Sergent @ Arms/Designated Driver for the Board of Director meetings.  :-)

Good. I'll need one of those.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 22, 2010, 09:25:07 PM
I'd like to apply for the position of Sergent @ Arms/Designated Driver for the Board of Director meetings. 


Swell. Hope you have a King Air. We're pretty much spread out over the country so as to improve our chances of surviving any retaliatory attacks.

If you're near Az. I'll put you in our upcoming video series.

Wait a sec. As a former military guy, don't you have access to some free rides in the back of a C-130 or something? This may actually work.

I like the idea of showing up for the board meeting and or court appearance in some heavy armor.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 22, 2010, 09:33:35 PM
I'd like to apply for the position of Sergent @ Arms/Designated Driver for the Board of Director meetings. 


Swell. Hope you have a King Air. We're pretty much spread out over the country so as to improve our chances of surviving any retaliatory attacks.

If you're near Az. I'll put you in our upcoming video series.

Wait a sec. As a former military guy, don't you have access to some free rides in the back of a C-130 or something? This may actually work.

I like the idea of showing up for the board meeting and or court appearance in some heavy armor.

Sounds good!
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Randy on January 22, 2010, 09:51:17 PM
Well I live in Florida so I'm a wee bit out of the way for AZ. I am heavily armed though. I had a several hundred dollar a month C&R firearms license habit at one time. I do know several NG guys down at the local armory and could maybe procure the use of some APC's. :-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 22, 2010, 09:54:45 PM
Sweet. Get us a cost estimate and find out who's got a multi engine license and we're in fuggin' business.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Randy on January 22, 2010, 10:04:53 PM
Sweet. Get us a cost estimate and find out who's got a multi engine license and we're in fuggin' business.

If you don't mind leasing I just happen to know a Husband and Wife team who are both multi engine certified and fly around a corporate jet that gets leased out when they don't need it.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 22, 2010, 10:08:19 PM
If it had a loading ramp for the Triumph, I'd be ecstatic. But it sounds good in any event. Find out the rates per hour and I'll send to our legal department for approval.

Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 22, 2010, 10:30:40 PM
Hmmm. I see you have a caduceus as an avatar. Hmm. I'm sure I'm not the only board member who might need a perscription for something or other....

Oh. And bring the defibrillator. I'm planning on some pretty racy in flight entertainment.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Airwolf on January 23, 2010, 12:15:18 AM
I haven't looked at the threads from the DUmp about this , but I'm guessing more calls for the Fairness Doctrine to be reinstated.

Would be hard to push that through with the recent SCOTUS ruling on free speech.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Airwolf on January 23, 2010, 12:18:38 AM
So for the time being, we just want the name?

To bad we couldn't change it to Skynet or Cyberdyne.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 23, 2010, 12:22:40 AM
I wonder what this (http://www.radio-airamerica.com/) is?
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Chris on January 23, 2010, 12:37:03 AM
That's a slick graphic.

I'm all for buying Air America affiliates and running ClearChannel/Premier Radio programming on them.  P-M  seems to be the juggernaut when it comes to conservative radio  (Limbaugh, Hannity).  They even carry Coast to Coast AM to placate the mental patients.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 23, 2010, 12:38:15 AM
That's a slick graphic.

I'm all for buying Air America affiliates and running ClearChannel/Premier Radio programming on them.  P-M  seems to be the juggernaut when it comes to conservative radio  (Limbaugh, Hannity).  They even carry Coast to Coast AM to placate the mental patients.

I'm glad someone finally had the curiousity, and the courage, to click that link.  That thing's so new, all the electrons are still wet behind the ears!
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Chris on January 23, 2010, 12:44:53 AM
Today's C2C show is about gnomes, leprechauns, and fairies.  You can't tell me this show isn't some kind of elaborate joke. :mental:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 23, 2010, 12:47:33 AM
Today's C2C show is about gnomes, leprechauns, and fairies.  You can't tell me this show isn't some kind of elaborate joke. :mental:

God is, I believe, the ultimate prankster - in addition to His many other wonderful qualities.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Chris on January 23, 2010, 12:47:38 AM
I'm glad someone finally had the curiousity, and the courage, to click that link.  That thing's so new, all the electrons are still wet behind the ears!

The DC-6 is a beautiful plane on the outside.  A little cramped inside, though.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 23, 2010, 12:50:35 AM
The DC-6 is a beautiful plane on the outside.  A little cramped inside, though.

Well, I couldn't find a good pic of the Pilatus PC-6 Turbo Porter to use,

(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/switzerland/pilatus_pc-6_2.jpg)

so I went with the pic I used.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Randy on January 23, 2010, 06:39:33 AM
I'm glad someone finally had the curiousity, and the courage, to click that link.  That thing's so new, all the electrons are still wet behind the ears!

More astounding is that the name servers picked it up quick enough to work in the middle of the night.  :-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Randy on January 23, 2010, 06:43:46 AM
To bad we couldn't change it to Skynet or Cyberdyne.

Since it's ours it should be quite simple to convince Skynet and Cyberdyne both to become major sponsors on the station.  Hell I bet we could come up with some recruitment PSA's for the VRWC too :lmao:
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Airwolf on January 23, 2010, 06:59:54 AM
Since it's ours it should be quite simple to convince Skynet and Cyberdyne both to become major sponsors on the station.  Hell I bet we could come up with some recruitment PSA's for the VRWC too :lmao:

 They have the cash. I also think we can get bids from the Weyland Yutani Corporation if we work hard enough.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: NHSparky on January 23, 2010, 07:02:44 AM
They have the cash. I also think we can get bids from the Weyland Yutani Corporation if we work hard enough.

I dunno--I think they're asking for too much product placement.  I got an e-mail demanding Chris put this up on the homepage:

(http://www.lastexittonowhere.com/media/images/uploads/productimage-picture-weyland-yutani-mens-fitted-528.jpg)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afterno
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on January 23, 2010, 10:36:50 AM
Or how about this one?

(http://www.stardestroyer.net/Armour/UAC.png)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 23, 2010, 12:09:08 PM
Since it's ours it should be quite simple to convince Skynet and Cyberdyne both to become major sponsors on the station.  Hell I bet we could come up with some recruitment PSA's for the VRWC too :lmao:

THAT would be fun!
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Peter3_1 on January 23, 2010, 01:15:55 PM
years ago an atty/prof  of mine outlined what is being done here Aaron, with Air America LLV/Inc.. He avised using a pennyless medicare recipioent in a home as the person of record, preferably senile.  Pay them, say, $50 for the annual meeting.....and if yyou wind upactually respoinding to anything, the one with zero assets elderly and senile becomes the face in court.......

As  for a "product" my wife invented an all recycled junk live catch mouse trap that works very well! We could get GREEN MONEY from OBAMA! A play on ANN COIULTER could be genuine ANMAGANSETT Water (which I can get free) to auction off for charity.......can I play too?

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Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 23, 2010, 01:23:40 PM
years ago an atty/prof  of mine outlined what is being done here Aaron, with Air America LLV/Inc.. He avised using a pennyless medicare recipioent in a home as the person of record, preferably senile.  Pay them, say, $50 for the annual meeting.....and if yyou wind upactually respoinding to anything, the one with zero assets elderly and senile becomes the face in court.......

As  for a "product" my wife invented an all recycled junk live catch mouse trap that works very well! We could get GREEN MONEY from OBAMA! A play on ANN COIULTER could be genuine ANMAGANSETT Water (which I can get free) to auction off for charity.......can I play too?

I am thinking that we may need to each form a shell corporation, we would have to become each others treasurers and secretaries I guess too.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Peter3_1 on January 23, 2010, 01:48:22 PM
Cover yourself with, say, a Bahama Corp.......again elderly, REAL elderly destitute "face". Protect yourself with a legal "Demand" note requiring the face either pay up an acknowledged debt or surrender their interest. If they die, you replace them with another elderly destitute face who will accept a nominal sum for doing zero...You can use similar faces for treasurer, secritary, president, with similar demand notes , maybe pay them $25 for each document they sign......but these extreem measures need not be done up front, except maybe the enabling resolution, which you can keep unfiled for as long as necessary....
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 23, 2010, 01:51:41 PM
Cover yourself with, say, a Bahama Corp.......again elderly, REAL elderly destitute "face". Protect yourself with a legal "Demand" note requiring the face either pay up an acknowledged debt or surrender their interest. If they die, you replace them with another elderly destitute face who will accept a nominal sum for doing zero...You can use similar faces for treasurer, secritary, president, with similar demand notes , maybe pay them $25 for each document they sign......but these extreem measures need not be done up front, except maybe the enabling resolution, which you can keep unfiled for as long as necessary....

Even if our business is as bad as trying to sell crazy stuff through CafePress it'd be a good idea to incorporate? lol. Should I incorporate any cheap website too? heh.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Peter3_1 on January 23, 2010, 04:18:48 PM
There was no "WEB" for civilians back then.......but I'd think not, as long as liability limiting measures are in place as per some qualified atty's reccomendaions.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 23, 2010, 05:52:13 PM
Hmmm. Pete, we're already incorporated. We're just waiting for the paperwork and then we'll have the LLC. If I found some senile old bastard willing to be the "front" I'd most likely rob him of his prescription medication and steal his SSI checks.


According to my attorney, I'm the Pres,VP, Director and about 10 other titles. My attorney has thoughtfully reserved the title of Secretary for himself.

I'm a laissez faire kind of C.E.O as I have no idea what the other board members are up to. If it all starts to go downhill, I'll just toss any court summons, indictments, and/or warrants on the inbox pile with the rest of them and go skeet shooting....in Cambodia.

Ah. Apparently, the Corporation is busy taking over the net...I'm sure someone will keep me up to date as my signature is required to sustain a thin veneer of credibility for our collective horrific and heinous crimes against humanity.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Randy on January 23, 2010, 06:37:32 PM
Hmmm. Pete, we're already incorporated. We're just waiting for the paperwork and then we'll have the LLC. If I found some senile old bastard willing to be the "front" I'd most likely rob him of his prescription medication and steal his SSI checks.


According to my attorney, I'm the Pres,VP, Director and about 10 other titles. My attorney has thoughtfully reserved the title of Secretary for himself.

I'm a laissez faire kind of C.E.O as I have no idea what the other board members are up to. If it all starts to go downhill, I'll just toss any court summons, indictments, and/or warrants on the inbox pile with the rest of them and go skeet shooting....in Cambodia.

Ah. Apparently, the Corporation is busy taking over the net...I'm sure someone will keep me up to date as my signature is required to sustain a thin veneer of credibility for our collective horrific and heinous crimes against humanity.

Yep we're spreading our sphere of influence through out the interwebs even as we speak. We are on this so fast that the web can't keep up with us.  :-)
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 23, 2010, 07:15:18 PM
There was no "WEB" for civilians back then.......but I'd think not, as long as liability limiting measures are in place as per some qualified atty's reccomendaions.

As far as I know, nothing's been done that would impose any liability that requires avoidance.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Oceander on January 23, 2010, 07:19:54 PM
I love playing shell games as much as anyone else, but what's the aim of so many shell co's?  Shell structures that will survive an attack have to be carefully constructed, and maintained - and that includes doing all of the basic formalities, like having a shareholders' meeting, a directors' meeting, and whatnot - even if one individual is wearing all of the hats.  Also, don't forget that each corporation (that is, an Inc. or a Ltd) creates a tax entity, that must generally get an EIN, and file basic federal tax returns.  If you want a corporate structure that is layered like an onion, using single-member LLCs is a better way to do.  SMLLCs don't create a tax presence in the US (other than in a few places like NYC) unless they affirmatively elect to be taxed like corporations.

But this isn't the corporate/LLC tax advice thread, so I'll leave it at that, except to say - I ain't yo attorney, so get yer own b'fore you start trying anything funky.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Aaron Burr on January 23, 2010, 09:48:14 PM
Excellent strategy Oceander. I too publicly disavow all knowledge of any shenanigans taking place on this thread.

In fact, who the Hell are all these people?

One things for sure. Those prescription meds are sure gonna' come in handy...for someone...not me. I'm just sitting here in the lobby reading the newspaper, minding my own business.
Title: Re: Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations... this afternoon
Post by: Randy on January 24, 2010, 04:39:53 AM
Wait? What? Where's Schade? This isn't the pole dancing thread? Sorry, my bad.