MadHound (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-18-10 07:36 PMhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7500368
Original message
Can you hear us now?
By all measures the Coakley campaign should be coasting to an easy victory in tomorrow's election. After all, this is an election to fill Teddy's old seat, in a state that is one of most Democratic in the country. But a funny thing has happened, the left has gotten pissed, and it shows.
Never mind that Coakley is, to put it delicately, something of an inept campaigner, that's not what's killing her chances at this point. What is killing her chances actually has very little to do with her and a lot to do with what is going on nationally.
The left is in full out open revolt against the Democratic party. After giving Obama and the Democrats everything that they wanted the left suddenly found themselves an unwanted guest at the table. Suddenly, despite their hard work the left found that not only were their issues not being addressed, but worse Obama and the Democratic Congress were following a much more conservative path, ranging from snubbing the LGBT community to expanding the war to caving in to corporate interests over the HCR bill.
The anger over these outrages against the left is now culminating in the Massachusetts senatorial election. The left is either looking to stay home, or worse yet, voting for the RW yahoo out of sheer spite. In other words, the left is sending a message, "Pay attention to us, start moving the party back to the left or suffer the consequences."
So the question now is whether or not Obama and the Democratic party are getting the message. Will the party start tacking back to the left, or will they continue to pursue their corporate friendly rightward course? If the party starts tacking back to the left, then they stand a good chance of winning big again in the fall. If not, the left is going to do what they're doing in the Massachusetts election, staying home or voting 'Pug out of sheer spite.
So win or lose tomorrow, the ball is in the court of the Obama and the Democrats. Stop ignoring and spitting on your base or suffer the consequences. It's up to you.
jezebel (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-18-10 07:40 PM
Response to Original message
1. Bullshit. And boring bullshit at that. nt
MadHound (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-18-10 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. Now that's an erudite response
You can't deny that MA is heavily blue state. You can't deny that under normal times even a dead Democrat could beat Brown hands down. So what is your excuse for such a bad performance?
No, it can't be the left exercising its muscle, it just can't be
Good luck winning in the fall with your head stuck in the sand.
jezebel (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-18-10 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #8
16. Your quote of "The left is in full out open revolt against the Democratic party" IS total bullshit.
The Mass election if lost is NOT going to be lost because the Dem's are in revolt. It will be because the Dems are apathetic and have a crappy candidate. That is balanced against an enraged right wing and indies who whether you want to believe it not are voting for Brown not because he isn't progressive but because he is CONSERVATIVE.
I don't like it but its the truth.
MadHound (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-18-10 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. Hmm, what's going on in the country tends to refute your point
Hell, what's going on on this board is refuting your point.
Face the fact, the left is pissed. You may not like it, but if you simply stick your head in the sand on this one, you're going to lose badly in the fall.
The simply fact is, there are too many on the left to allow Brown to win as outline. It is simply the left, pissed off and staying at home that is going to turn the tide for Brown.
dionysus (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-18-10 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #23
39. uh, every poll out there, which shows obama has very high ratings amongst dems. are you pissed that
there aren't enough of you outside of internet message boards to even register in poll results?
hmmm?
MadHound (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-18-10 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. Umm, most of us on the left aren't registered Dems
That means that we're those dreaded/coveted independents. You want our vote, you've got to earn it, it's that simple.
scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-18-10 08:58 PM:ohsnap:
Response to Reply #42
50. Then quit calling yourselves "Obama's base"... because he *IS* a Democrat
MadHound
Face the fact, the left is pissed. You may not like it, but if you simply stick your head in the sand on this one, you're going to lose badly in the fall.
The simply fact is, there are too many on the left to allow Brown to win as outline. It is simply the left, pissed off and staying at home that is going to turn the tide for Brown.
Tomorrow should be fun !!Watching Dems crash N Burn is always priceless.
Tomorrow should be fun !!
Tomorrow should be fun !!
I'm goin' to laugh for days! They're goin' to "cry" for years!
So let me see if I have this right. Democratic candidate isn't far enough left, so everyone is going to vote for a Republican? I wish these people would actualy use this thing they call a brain.
I believe the Kostards are always floating that balloon--"We need to move even more to the left; then we'll win elections in droves!!!!" It's willfully ignorant, and that's no way to go through life, son.
PleasePleasePleasePleasePLEASE go farther left, Dems!AMEN! I fully support the democrats nominating the DUmp dream ticket of McKinney/Kucinich.