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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 15, 2010, 07:32:12 PM
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Oh my.
KingOfLostSouls (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 07:56 PM
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If Conservatism Wins, America Is DONE
I'm just gonna put this right out there. If conservatives manage to come back to power, for whatever reason, America is done.
finished. ended. sayonara. taken out back and put down.
Our leaders made a gigantic blunder with health care, whether we like it or not, and we underestimated how truly evil and hateful conservatives are. These people have no conscience, they have no hearts, they have no sense of shame.
Bill Clinton said it best in 2004 during the presidential election. these people love power and they know how to get it. They have a complicit media, and a brainwashed electorate that is there not to think for themselves, but to do as they are told. Frank Shaffer has been warning us so much of the deadliness of the conservative movement, in his numerous breath taking, truth telling sessions with rachel maddow. And if for some reason the historic seat of Ted Kennedy is lost, we must be vigilant.
we rested on our hands and our laurels without realizing that conservatives are not in it for one election. they are an evil army determined to bring this country to its knees. How many conservative economists cite Chile under Pinochet as the ultimate dream land of the free market? WAKE UP! That is what they want for America.
Mark my words, if conservatives get back to power, this country is over. Kiss everything goodbye. These people believe in Joseph McCarthy, they support Dick Cheney, and they believe Scott Roeder is a hero for committing first degree murder. These people nod their heads when their lord on the radio tells them to let people die and suffer in Haiti and laugh about it. They don't want to be your friend. They don't want to hear your voice. They don't want your vote. They want to grind you under their heal and make this into a Conservative Paradise, somewhere between Pinochet's Chile and a Southern Baptist version of Saudi Arabia.
If conservatism wins, America dies.
Oh, I dunno.
Whatever.
Taverner (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 07:58 PM
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1. "conservative economists cite Chile under Pinochet as the ultimate dream land of the free market"
Indeed - that IS their dream...Death Caravans and everything...
after which a photograph from some old black-and-white movie
Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:00 PM
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2. While everything you say is correct we can no longer pretend that "conservatism" is limited to the Republican party. The health care fiasco proves beyond all reasonable doubt how deep the infiltration is into our own party. As does the warmongering that has continued for the better part of a decade.
midnight (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:01 PM
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3. Sad but true..
elocs (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:02 PM
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4. Well, what we need to do is to elect a Democratic President and large majorities in Congress.
Maybe that would work. Probably not.
I know if this were a Bush 3rd term and Republicans had these majorities that Democrats do now, they would be mopping up and taking no prisoners.
The mountain man primitive who, like all men, nightly pitches his tent one day's march nearer the mausoleum:
ThomWV (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:06 PM
THE MOUNTAIN MAN PRIMITIVE
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5. Another way to say it is if they come back the looting will resume, at an even faster pace.
David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:11 PM
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6. Conservatism began winning the day FDR died.
It's been chip, chip, chip ever since that day.
With a very few notable exceptions:
Brown vs the Board of Education (U.S. Supreme Court)
Roe vs Wade (U.S. Supreme Court)
The creation of Medicare (Lyndon Johnson)
The Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act (Lyndon Johnson)
Lowering the voting age (Richard Nixon)
The creation of the EPA (Richard Nixon)
Joe the Liberal (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:11 PM
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7. I agree, this country won't survive another conservative/republican regime.....
Even now we have a conservative government with Obama but it's just republican-lite/centrist. Republicans are so far to the right that it's off the scale, they pulled the democrats to the right too.
Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:15 PM
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8. I hate to break it to you, but "conservatism" has already won.
The spectrum of what we call politics in the United States runs from conservative to fanatical conservative. There is no true left in national politics, save for a handful of powerless figures that are constantly mocked and ridiculed.
Both national Democrats politicians and Republican politicians are doing just fine and driving this country into the ground. The notion that somehow all we have to worry about is not making sure "conservatives" (by which the OP means Republicans, ignoring the fact that the entirety of democratic national leadership and most national democratic elected representatives are "conservative" but the rest of the worlds definition) win again completely missed the severity of our national crisis.
Both the Democratic part and the Republicans Party are only willing to operate within the parameters of our basic "status quo" system - operating inside the parameters of elite consensus. Democrats are willing to push slightly toward the leftish side of those boarders, while Republicans are willing to push toward the rigtish side of those boarders.
No one is questioning the boarders themselves. No one is challenging our failed, broken system itself. And consequently, no one is doing anything to change the course of our government toward eventual collapse.
Conservatism has won. It's infected the Demcocratic Party. It dominates the Republican Party. And the propaganda of conservatism is so pervasive, that most in society call conservative posistions "liberal" or "extreme."
That's mission accomplished for the financial elite who benefit exponentially from this system.
timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:16 PM
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10. Conservatism won, and then it lost again. And so on, as Kurt Vonnegut would say
Ree's mole:
xchrom (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:21 PM
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11. Conservatism IS winning.
You just face a lot duers saying it ain't so.
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This rivals the legendary Peter Dow.
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The spectrum of what we call politics in the United States runs from conservative to fanatical conservative. There is no true left in national politics, save for a handful of powerless figures that are constantly mocked and ridiculed...
Oh my, did someone actually post this, or is this from the Onion? :mental:
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This rivals the legendary Peter Dow.
Lunatics all...makes me want to watch One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest for a little sanity...
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They know what is coming and are trying to tell themselves they are the pure and oppressed.
A whole bunch of :blah: :blah:
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This is my favorite comment: :-)
elocs (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:02 PM
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4. Well, what we need to do is to elect a Democratic President and large majorities in Congress.
Maybe that would work. Probably not.
I know if this were a Bush 3rd term and Republicans had these majorities that Democrats do now, they would be mopping up and taking no prisoners.
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Just the total opposite, actually
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I dunno . . . seems to me that this primitive:
elocs (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:02 PM
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4. Well, what we need to do is to elect a Democratic President and large majorities in Congress.
Maybe that would work. Probably not.
I know if this were a Bush 3rd term and Republicans had these majorities that Democrats do now, they would be mopping up and taking no prisoners.
is mocking them. :fuelfire:
Just my humble opinion . . .
ETA--it's also my 6500th post. Just wanted to say type that.
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Well, there is that whole "freedom from oppressive government" and "rugged individualism" thing upon which this country was founded. There is still a vestigal memory of that in the nation's collective consciousness, with the exception, of course, of the "America exists to serve me" crowd.
Then there's the fact that most of us don't want to be Europe. If we wanted to be Europe, we would have never left there to begin with. If you want European Socialism, or even tinpot Latin American Socialism for that matter, haul your asses in that direction and leave the achievers and freedom lover's alone.
As Samuel Adams stated so eloquently:
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
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They don't want to be your friend. They don't want to hear your voice. They don't want your vote. They want to grind you under their heal and make this into a Conservative Paradise,
Hey, he got this part right, except for his brilliant spelling
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KingOfLostSouls (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 07:56 PM
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If Conservatism Wins, THE LIBERAL'S VISION FOR America Is DONE
I'm just gonna put this right out there. If conservatives manage to come back to power, for whatever reason, THE PROGRESSIVE IDEOLOGY AND VISION FOR America is done.
f1x0r3d
and...
That is correct!!!
The leftist, Marxist, commie ideology that is 100% supported by the hippie, fag/dyke/tranny/furry, unborn child butchering, terrorist nurturing, anti-Christian, anti-America, intolerant, welfare parasite, low-life scum of the gutters will be shattered.
Works for me!
After the DUmmys see their commie-commune hopes of a socialist society dashed, they will (hopefully) do the RIGHT thing and drink the Jim Jones designer Kool-Aid and end it all.
Problem then - what to do with the dead bodies!
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f1x0r3d
and...
That is correct!!!
The leftist, Marxist, commie ideology that is 100% supported by the hippie, fag/dyke/tranny/furry, unborn child butchering, terrorist nurturing, anti-Christian, anti-America, intolerant, welfare parasite, low-life scum of the gutters will be shattered.
Works for me!
After the DUmmys see their commie-commune hopes of a socialist society dashed, they will (hopefully) do the RIGHT thing and drink the Jim Jones designer Kool-Aid and end it all.
Problem then - what to do with the dead bodies!
Compost'em for fertilizer....never mind....they're so full of sh!t, they're ready to use.
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-15-10 08:15 PM
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8. I hate to break it to you, but "conservatism" has already won.
The spectrum of what we call politics in the United States runs from conservative to fanatical conservative. There is no true left in national politics, save for a handful of powerless figures that are constantly mocked and ridiculed.
Somebody longs for the commie bull-ring in his nose.
Hey, I am all for the dictatorial leadership you yearn for.
You and your commie hippie ilk at the DUmp better hope *I* am NOT the person in charge and living in the palace.
If that is the case, you can be ASSured that you and ALL of your NON-PRODUCTIVE welfare parasite, mentally ill, fag/dyke/tranny/furry comrades at the DUmp and elsewhere in the nation will NOT be tolerated. Your lazy worthless asses will be the very first ones lined up against the wall and shot.
Ya like pie?
How do you like them apples, DUmmy?
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Compost'em for fertilizer....never mind....they're so full of sh!t, they're ready to use.
But the toxins that leach out of them (from all of their drug use) . . .
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In all honesty, I have no idea what the hell they're talking about. America has always been a conservative country. It's part of our charm. We've always had a "you stay out of my business, pocket, chicken coop and I'll stay out of yours" mentality. How can they honestly believe America is "done" if we're trying to keep our founding principles? If they want a different country then they should just be honest enough to say "we can't remake America into what we think would be a better place". It's all hate and hyperbole.
Cindie
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Riiiiiiiiight. Because those liberal meccas of California, New York and Detroit are doing so well.
:whatever:
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Well, if any of them want to blow their (Hypothetical) brains out, I for one would be damned glad to part with some of my ammunition stockpile for the cause.
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Well, if any of them want to blow their (Hypothetical) brains out, I for one would be damned glad to part with some of my ammunition stockpile for the cause.
.22LR is cheap and still relatively plentiful. Adequate for the task, too. When I feel the need to murder animals for my supper table, it's all I need.
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Ya know what? **** you DUmmie commie bastards! Amazing that thru our leadership, we have brought our country to be the envy of the world! Damn, just Damn!!!! You asswipes can't find a single brain cell amongst 5000 of your brethren!
We need to start sellin' huntin' licenses for these pimples on humanity!!! HOLY CRAP!!! Every time you maroons show your stupidity, you outdo the last time, don't you? Just ****in' incredible!!!!!!111111
edited for clarification of just how stoopid these asshats really are