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Title: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Freeper on March 08, 2008, 01:02:30 PM
Since it is pretty much sewed up that McCain will be getting the nomination for the upcoming election I have decided I will support him and vote for him.

He may not be the ideal candidate that I wanted but he is a hell of a lot better than what the other side is offering.

Like with Bush, I will give him kudos when he is right and criticize him when he is wrong.

I just hope since he is running as a conservative he will be govern as one.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Chris_ on March 08, 2008, 01:05:29 PM
I am going to have to get good and drunk and get a gig damn clothespin for my nose, but for McCain I will vote.

The alternative is inexperience and wither stupid liberalism or merely pure evil liberalism.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Chris_ on March 08, 2008, 01:27:40 PM
I'll definitely be needing an alcoholic beverage or two to survive voting for McCain.   :(
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 08, 2008, 01:57:33 PM
The thought, GAG! If he picks Crist as VP it will be even worse, so hold your noses and close your eyes and pray. We now have become a liberal leaning, cry baby, feel good country. If I could do a write in I would.   :banghead:
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 08, 2008, 04:25:22 PM
I'll be taking to toke of the McCainabis.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Mr Mannn on March 08, 2008, 04:45:47 PM
The thought, GAG! If he picks Crist as VP it will be even worse, so hold your noses and close your eyes and pray. We now have become a liberal leaning, cry baby, feel good country. If I could do a write in I would.   :banghead:
Oh thanks for making me puke! Crist?!!
I'm WAS planning to hold my nose and vote McCain as well, mainly because he will seek to WIN the war and not cut and run.
---the only thing that could keep me home is another limp-wristed RINO like Crist.

This election hurts more and more.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 08, 2008, 06:06:50 PM
The thought, GAG! If he picks Crist as VP it will be even worse, so hold your noses and close your eyes and pray. We now have become a liberal leaning, cry baby, feel good country. If I could do a write in I would.   :banghead:
Oh thanks for making me puke! Crist?!!
I'm WAS planning to hold my nose and vote McCain as well, mainly because he will seek to WIN the war and not cut and run.
---the only thing that could keep me home is another limp-wristed RINO like Crist.

This election hurts more and more.
His name keeps coming up as a possibility, We have been talking about it all week. My GAG reflexes have been busy for days.   :thatsright:
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: mamacags on March 08, 2008, 06:27:28 PM
I am going to pretend his running mate is Rick Santorum and vote for him.  I can pretend for years if I have to. :hyper:
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Lord Undies on March 08, 2008, 06:32:53 PM
I thought that was a given.  I'd vote for Barack Maurice Obama if he had a "R" by his name - just to watch the DUmmie moonbats explode with rage when he wins.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 08, 2008, 06:36:58 PM

is there an alternative?

don't think of it as a vote for mccain, think of it as a vote against The BarackStar! or hillary.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Splashdown on March 08, 2008, 07:26:25 PM
Since it is pretty much sewed up that McCain will be getting the nomination for the upcoming election I have decided I will support him and vote for him.

He may not be the ideal candidate that I wanted but he is a hell of a lot better than what the other side is offering.

Like with Bush, I will give him kudos when he is right and criticize him when he is wrong.

I just hope since he is running as a conservative he will be govern as one.

Great. Now we'll be bombarded by wackjob McCain supporters...

Oh wait....


Never mind!   :-)
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 08, 2008, 09:56:59 PM

is there an alternative?

don't think of it as a vote for mccain, think of it as a vote against The BarackStar! or hillary.
Still does not keep my stomach from churning with acid reflux.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: CactusCarlos on March 08, 2008, 09:59:21 PM
Since it is pretty much sewed up that McCain will be getting the nomination for the upcoming election I have decided I will support him and vote for him.

He may not be the ideal candidate that I wanted but he is a hell of a lot better than what the other side is offering.

Like with Bush, I will give him kudos when he is right and criticize him when he is wrong.

I just hope since he is running as a conservative he will be govern as one.

The last time I held my nose and voted for the lesser of two evils the son-of-a-bitch wanted to make it mandatory that my 14 year old daughter be vaccinated against HPV.  I'm abstaining from voting this time.  
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Lord Undies on March 08, 2008, 10:05:55 PM
Since it is pretty much sewed up that McCain will be getting the nomination for the upcoming election I have decided I will support him and vote for him.

He may not be the ideal candidate that I wanted but he is a hell of a lot better than what the other side is offering.

Like with Bush, I will give him kudos when he is right and criticize him when he is wrong.

I just hope since he is running as a conservative he will be govern as one.

The last time I held my nose and voted for the lesser of two evils the son-of-a-bitch wanted to make it mandatory that my 14 year old daughter be vaccinated against HPV.  I'm abstaining from voting this time.  

Since the only thing that really matters this time is the three upcoming Supreme Court appointments, I think you should hold your nose one more time.  This time it will be for your daughter's sake.  Her future is at least one degree better in the hands of John McCain.  You owe her that much.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on March 08, 2008, 10:11:25 PM
I'll have to have a couple 6 packs before I got to the polling place. Oh God, i can only hope he picks someone like Mitt, Fred Thompson, or somebody as conservative to run with.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Duke Nukum on March 08, 2008, 10:59:27 PM
I am going to do my best to support him.  Probably he is going to win (unless he decides, to be fair to the democrat, to step aside so the first woman or person of color can be President) so hopefully I wont have to support him too much.

But I will support him as much as I can.  Or have to.

I don't see why we can't just elect ABCNBCCBSCNNFNCMSNBC News.  They think they run the country anyway and they never question their own motives or anything so there would be a lot fewer insipid questions and the press conferences.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: CactusCarlos on March 09, 2008, 09:53:02 AM
Since the only thing that really matters this time is the three upcoming Supreme Court appointments, I think you should hold your nose one more time.  This time it will be for your daughter's sake.  Her future is at least one degree better in the hands of John McCain.  You owe her that much.

I'm as convinced that he would appoint conservative justices as I am that B. Hussein Obama would.   You have alot more faith in McCain than I do.  I respect your wisdom, however, so please tell me how I'm wrong on this. 
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Lord Undies on March 09, 2008, 11:15:22 AM
Since the only thing that really matters this time is the three upcoming Supreme Court appointments, I think you should hold your nose one more time.  This time it will be for your daughter's sake.  Her future is at least one degree better in the hands of John McCain.  You owe her that much.

I'm as convinced that he would appoint conservative justices as I am that B. Hussein Obama would.   You have alot more faith in McCain than I do.  I respect your wisdom, however, so please tell me how I'm wrong on this. 

A vote for McCain is a vote for conservatism, even if the logic of that escapes you now.  McCain is conservative on some issues.  His desire to protect those issues may bring him to make nominations to the court which share his philosophy.  These nominees would most likely be more conservative than McCain (over all).  McCain will be the one compromising in his selections, having to accept conservatism over liberalism in order to protect what is important to him, such as national security.

On the other hand, you not voting at all in protest is support for Obama or Clinton, whether you think it is or not.  We know neither candidate is beholding to conservatism, in fact, we know they are nothing more than socialists/communists.  Any nominee these two would put forth for the US Supreme Court will be anti-American and quite likely to undermine our constitution every chance they get. 

To not at least go out and vote for McCain for president is a big mistake.  It means you choose to dump the conservatism you can get overboard because you cannot get all the conservatism you want.  You are saying, when you don't vote, that you are willing to accept a socialist/communist president, with all the future horror that entails.  And for what?  What did you prove?  Where is the benefit?  Are you going to still feel good about your "no vote" protest four years from now?
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Carl on March 09, 2008, 11:48:16 AM
Since the only thing that really matters this time is the three upcoming Supreme Court appointments, I think you should hold your nose one more time.  This time it will be for your daughter's sake.  Her future is at least one degree better in the hands of John McCain.  You owe her that much.

I'm as convinced that he would appoint conservative justices as I am that B. Hussein Obama would.   You have alot more faith in McCain than I do.  I respect your wisdom, however, so please tell me how I'm wrong on this. 

A vote for McCain is a vote for conservatism, even if the logic of that escapes you now.  McCain is conservative on some issues.  His desire to protect those issues may bring him to make nominations to the court which share his philosophy.  These nominees would most likely be more conservative than McCain (over all).  McCain will be the one compromising in his selections, having to accept conservatism over liberalism in order to protect what is important to him, such as national security.

On the other hand, you not voting at all in protest is support for Obama or Clinton, whether you think it is or not.  We know neither candidate is beholding to conservatism, in fact, we know they are nothing more than socialists/communists.  Any nominee these two would put forth for the US Supreme Court will be anti-American and quite likely to undermine our constitution every chance they get. 

To not at least go out and vote for McCain for president is a big mistake.  It means you choose to dump the conservatism you can get overboard because you cannot get all the conservatism you want.  You are saying, when you don't vote, that you are willing to accept a socialist/communist president, with all the future horror that entails.  And for what?  What did you prove?  Where is the benefit?  Are you going to still feel good about your "no vote" protest four years from now?

As much as I dislike McCain on some things I at least think there is a 50/50 chance of getting decent court nominees.
No,I don`t think it will be a Scalia but I have no doubt what a President Clinton/Obama would nominate.

If anyone thinks looking to Euro Socialist mindsets for interpretation of our Constitution is a desireable thing then that is likely what a dem President will bring.
Think of how this relates to the WOT as that anti-America,surrender mindset is in play as the SCOTUS reviews the litany of suits that will inevitably be brought by marxist agencys like the ACLU who suspect they now can destroy America from within via a friendly court.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Lacarnut on March 09, 2008, 12:31:22 PM
Although future S.C. appointees are extrmely important, the economy is the most important issue in my opinion. There is no comparison between the spend and tax raising platform of the Democratic Party compared to McCain's platform of lower taxes, less government and budget reductions.

Your pocketbook will be severerly affected if Obama or Hillary win the Prez. That lone issue should make you vote for McCain. The S.C. won't mean doodly if gasoline prices go up to $6 a gallon, your income taxes go way up, cut & run in Iraq, the military & intel. budget is slashed to the bone, more gun laws, etc., etc.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 09, 2008, 04:08:18 PM
Since the only thing that really matters this time is the three upcoming Supreme Court appointments, I think you should hold your nose one more time.  This time it will be for your daughter's sake.  Her future is at least one degree better in the hands of John McCain.  You owe her that much.

I'm as convinced that he would appoint conservative justices as I am that B. Hussein Obama would.   You have alot more faith in McCain than I do.  I respect your wisdom, however, so please tell me how I'm wrong on this. 

A vote for McCain is a vote for conservatism, even if the logic of that escapes you now.  McCain is conservative on some issues.  His desire to protect those issues may bring him to make nominations to the court which share his philosophy.  These nominees would most likely be more conservative than McCain (over all).  McCain will be the one compromising in his selections, having to accept conservatism over liberalism in order to protect what is important to him, such as national security.

On the other hand, you not voting at all in protest is support for Obama or Clinton, whether you think it is or not.  We know neither candidate is beholding to conservatism, in fact, we know they are nothing more than socialists/communists.  Any nominee these two would put forth for the US Supreme Court will be anti-American and quite likely to undermine our constitution every chance they get. 

To not at least go out and vote for McCain for president is a big mistake.  It means you choose to dump the conservatism you can get overboard because you cannot get all the conservatism you want.  You are saying, when you don't vote, that you are willing to accept a socialist/communist president, with all the future horror that entails.  And for what?  What did you prove?  Where is the benefit?  Are you going to still feel good about your "no vote" protest four years from now?

As much as I dislike McCain on some things I at least think there is a 50/50 chance of getting decent court nominees.
No,I don`t think it will be a Scalia but I have no doubt what a President Clinton/Obama would nominate.

If anyone thinks looking to Euro Socialist mindsets for interpretation of our Constitution is a desireable thing then that is likely what a dem President will bring.
Think of how this relates to the WOT as that anti-America,surrender mindset is in play as the SCOTUS reviews the litany of suits that will inevitably be brought by marxist agencys like the ACLU who suspect they now can destroy America from within via a friendly court.

Couldn't agree more.  McCain is very pro-life, and it would follw that he would appoint pro-lifers to the Federal bench and the SCOTUS.  It seems to me that pro-life judges also tend to be conservative in other areas.  Roe, the DC gun ban case, eminent domain, the GWoT, and other conservative positions will all suffer if one of the Dems is elected. 
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 09, 2008, 04:19:57 PM
We really have no choice, we have two dems that are deep socialist and a what ever the Hell you want to call him that calls himself conserv. I'm trying to convince myself on the what ever the Hell he is would be the best.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 09, 2008, 07:29:01 PM
We really have no choice, we have two dems that are deep socialist and a what ever the Hell you want to call him that calls himself conserv. I'm trying to convince myself on the what ever the Hell he is would be the best.
It's a reality that I am VERY reluctantly embracing.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 09, 2008, 07:33:41 PM
We really have no choice, we have two dems that are deep socialist and a what ever the Hell you want to call him that calls himself conserv. I'm trying to convince myself on the what ever the Hell he is would be the best.
It's a reality that I am VERY reluctantly embracing.
I'm fighting my strong beliefs and morals to walk away and not vote, I believe in a system that is being run over by stupidity. We have allowed our election process to be watered down by peoples who do not care about our country and what it stands for.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 09, 2008, 07:44:19 PM
We really have no choice, we have two dems that are deep socialist and a what ever the Hell you want to call him that calls himself conserv. I'm trying to convince myself on the what ever the Hell he is would be the best.
It's a reality that I am VERY reluctantly embracing.
I'm fighting my strong beliefs and morals to walk away and not vote, I believe in a system that is being run over by stupidity. We have allowed our election process to be watered down by peoples who do not care about our country and what it stands for.
For what it's worth: As much as I despise liberalism the VAST MAJORITY of liberals believe themselves to be acting with noble purpose and direction.

But then again the road to Hell is paved...

Well, you know the rest.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 09, 2008, 07:47:14 PM
We really have no choice, we have two dems that are deep socialist and a what ever the Hell you want to call him that calls himself conserv. I'm trying to convince myself on the what ever the Hell he is would be the best.
It's a reality that I am VERY reluctantly embracing.
I'm fighting my strong beliefs and morals to walk away and not vote, I believe in a system that is being run over by stupidity. We have allowed our election process to be watered down by peoples who do not care about our country and what it stands for.
For what it's worth: As much as I despise liberalism the VAST MAJORITY of liberals believe themselves to be acting with noble purpose and direction.

But then again the road to Hell is paved...

Well, you know the rest.

With good intentions, I know that and i have a friend that is a Liberal. He believes in a socialist type health care, believes it would be the best thing going.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Chris_ on March 09, 2008, 07:48:40 PM
I have a fantasy that McCain will pick a strong conservative running mate (I think he almost has to if he wants to woo the conservative wing to get out the vote). Then I believe that strong running mate will be our next Ronnie Reagan.... It's a longshot, but a girl can dream.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Chris_ on March 09, 2008, 07:50:01 PM
I have a fantasy that McCain will pick a strong conservative running mate (I think he almost has to if he wants to woo the conservative wing to get out the vote). Then I believe that strong running mate will be our next Ronnie Reagan.... It's a longshot, but a girl can dream.

I've got my fingers crossed, too.  :(
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Chris_ on March 09, 2008, 07:52:05 PM
I have a fantasy that McCain will pick a strong conservative running mate (I think he almost has to if he wants to woo the conservative wing to get out the vote). Then I believe that strong running mate will be our next Ronnie Reagan.... It's a longshot, but a girl can dream.

I've got my fingers crossed, too.  :(

I have other fantasies... never mind.  :-) I know how squeamish you get when "mom" talks about what gets her groove on, eh son? 
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: guest on March 09, 2008, 07:57:25 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Freeper on March 09, 2008, 08:01:00 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 



More than likely, but I am going to think positive. McCain is right on the issue that is most important to me, defense. Every other issue is secondary without a strong defense nothing else will matter.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Chris_ on March 09, 2008, 08:02:54 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 



More than likely, but I am going to think positive. McCain is right on the issue that is most important to me, defense. Every other issue is secondary without a strong defense nothing else will matter.

I can't think positive these days, that's my problem.  Call me an idealist, if you like, but I just can't shake this feeling of dread.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 09, 2008, 08:05:35 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.

Nervous is being to up beat, schaden just pm me your fantasies and it'll help me with my decision to vote for McCain any ways, oh heck just send them no matter what.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Freeper on March 09, 2008, 08:06:21 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 



More than likely, but I am going to think positive. McCain is right on the issue that is most important to me, defense. Every other issue is secondary without a strong defense nothing else will matter.

I can't think positive these days, that's my problem.  Call me an idealist, if you like, but I just can't shake this feeling of dread.

Just remember the doom and gloom at CU after the 2006 election and it turned out the dims didnt change much
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 09, 2008, 08:07:03 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 



More than likely, but I am going to think positive. McCain is right on the issue that is most important to me, defense. Every other issue is secondary without a strong defense nothing else will matter.
That's my general feeling as well.

Alas, McCain seems to go out of his way to thumb his nose at us. His VP is his heir.

Do we want 8 years of capitulation on our principles...or 16? Could we recover after such a stretch?

A Hillary or Obama we can bounce after 4.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Chris_ on March 09, 2008, 08:07:57 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


More than likely, but I am going to think positive. McCain is right on the issue that is most important to me, defense. Every other issue is secondary without a strong defense nothing else will matter.

I can't think positive these days, that's my problem.  Call me an idealist, if you like, but I just can't shake this feeling of dread.

We're ****ed either way.  I'd rather vote for McCain and have some chance of keeping either of those other two away from the Oval Office.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 09, 2008, 08:08:56 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 



More than likely, but I am going to think positive. McCain is right on the issue that is most important to me, defense. Every other issue is secondary without a strong defense nothing else will matter.
That's my general feeling as well.

Alas, McCain seems to go out of his way to thumb his nose at us. His VP is his heir.

Do we want 8 years of capitulation on our principles...or 16? Could we recover after such a stretch?

A Hillary or Obama we can bounce after 4.
I have a friend who says the same thing, are we sure we can handle a vast socialist attack from the top to the congress.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Chris_ on March 09, 2008, 08:09:00 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.

Nervous is being to up beat, schaden just pm me your fantasies and it'll help me with my decision to vote for McCain any ways, oh heck just send them no matter what.

My fantasies aren't fit for print, they are that naughty.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Chris_ on March 09, 2008, 08:09:14 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


More than likely, but I am going to think positive. McCain is right on the issue that is most important to me, defense. Every other issue is secondary without a strong defense nothing else will matter.

I can't think positive these days, that's my problem.  Call me an idealist, if you like, but I just can't shake this feeling of dread.

We're ****ed either way.  I'd rather vote for McCain and have some chance of keeping either of those other two away from the Oval Office.

I'm going to need more than a 6 pack of Sam Adams and a bottle of Bailey's to get through voting in November. :(
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 09, 2008, 08:10:08 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.

Nervous is being to up beat, schaden just pm me your fantasies and it'll help me with my decision to vote for McCain any ways, oh heck just send them no matter what.

My fantasies aren't fit for print, they are that naughty.
You should you can trust me by now, besides those are the ones I handle the best, I just take my glasses off before I read them,  lol   :naughty:
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Carl on March 09, 2008, 08:14:38 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.

Nervous is being to up beat, schaden just pm me your fantasies and it'll help me with my decision to vote for McCain any ways, oh heck just send them no matter what.

My fantasies aren't fit for print, they are that naughty.

You could PM them to me if it would help you. :innocent:
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Lord Undies on March 09, 2008, 08:15:31 PM
We really have no choice, we have two dems that are deep socialist and a what ever the Hell you want to call him that calls himself conserv. I'm trying to convince myself on the what ever the Hell he is would be the best.
It's a reality that I am VERY reluctantly embracing.
I'm fighting my strong beliefs and morals to walk away and not vote, I believe in a system that is being run over by stupidity. We have allowed our election process to be watered down by peoples who do not care about our country and what it stands for.
For what it's worth: As much as I despise liberalism the VAST MAJORITY of liberals believe themselves to be acting with noble purpose and direction.

But then again the road to Hell is paved...

Well, you know the rest.

This is true.  There are only two kinds of liberals.  The first type are the truly evil ones who know exactly what they are doing and why, and the second group (which is the VAST MAJORITY) are the intellectually empty emotionally driven stooges that follow the first type.  I completely disagree there is anything noble about either type, even in their own assessment of themselves.  

Everything about liberalsim is a lie.  That includes how they fool others to make them believe liberals think of their causes as being noble.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 09, 2008, 08:15:58 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 



More than likely, but I am going to think positive. McCain is right on the issue that is most important to me, defense. Every other issue is secondary without a strong defense nothing else will matter.
That's my general feeling as well.

Alas, McCain seems to go out of his way to thumb his nose at us. His VP is his heir.

Do we want 8 years of capitulation on our principles...or 16? Could we recover after such a stretch?

A Hillary or Obama we can bounce after 4.
I have a friend who says the same thing, are we sure we can handle a vast socialist attack from the top to the congress.
With a solid senate we can halt them dead in their tracks.

Sadly, conservatives have bought into the liberal myth of the do-all presidency. Te president is the chief protector of the republic. It's supposed to be congress that legislates. We betray our principle of decentralized, state-based power when we confer our every political wish upon the presidency. What would a McCain, Hillary or even an Obama matter if we acted where our power is most concentrated: our individual reps and senators? Those are the pols we can best manage and turn-out as needed.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Chris_ on March 09, 2008, 08:20:21 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.

Nervous is being to up beat, schaden just pm me your fantasies and it'll help me with my decision to vote for McCain any ways, oh heck just send them no matter what.

My fantasies aren't fit for print, they are that naughty.

You could PM them to me if it would help you. :innocent:

At the risk of jacking this thread... :-)

Why do I do these things? What the hell is wrong with me?  :lmao:
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 09, 2008, 08:27:12 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.

Nervous is being to up beat, schaden just pm me your fantasies and it'll help me with my decision to vote for McCain any ways, oh heck just send them no matter what.

My fantasies aren't fit for print, they are that naughty.

You could PM them to me if it would help you. :innocent:

At the risk of jacking this thread... :-)

Why do I do these things? What the hell is wrong with me?  :lmao:
You are the one that brings all my realities into line.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 09, 2008, 08:31:42 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 



More than likely, but I am going to think positive. McCain is right on the issue that is most important to me, defense. Every other issue is secondary without a strong defense nothing else will matter.
That's my general feeling as well.

Alas, McCain seems to go out of his way to thumb his nose at us. His VP is his heir.

Do we want 8 years of capitulation on our principles...or 16? Could we recover after such a stretch?

A Hillary or Obama we can bounce after 4.
I have a friend who says the same thing, are we sure we can handle a vast socialist attack from the top to the congress.
With a solid senate we can halt them dead in their tracks.

Sadly, conservatives have bought into the liberal myth of the do-all presidency. Te president is the chief protector of the republic. It's supposed to be congress that legislates. We betray our principle of decentralized, state-based power when we confer our every political wish upon the presidency. What would a McCain, Hillary or even an Obama matter if we acted where our power is most concentrated: our individual reps and senators? Those are the pols we can best manage and turn-out as needed.

True, but alas you are right, the majority think the office of the pres. is suppose to save them from all ills, take katrina for instance, the local govern was suppose to take action and the U.S. govern comes in later if needed. What did we get? A dem state that didn't have any Idea on how to take care of there own jobs and the libs were able to push that the U,S, govern is now responsable. Do we want more of that with Hillary and or Obama?
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Freeper on March 09, 2008, 08:35:29 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 



More than likely, but I am going to think positive. McCain is right on the issue that is most important to me, defense. Every other issue is secondary without a strong defense nothing else will matter.
That's my general feeling as well.

Alas, McCain seems to go out of his way to thumb his nose at us. His VP is his heir.

Do we want 8 years of capitulation on our principles...or 16? Could we recover after such a stretch?

A Hillary or Obama we can bounce after 4.
I have a friend who says the same thing, are we sure we can handle a vast socialist attack from the top to the congress.
With a solid senate we can halt them dead in their tracks.

Sadly, conservatives have bought into the liberal myth of the do-all presidency. Te president is the chief protector of the republic. It's supposed to be congress that legislates. We betray our principle of decentralized, state-based power when we confer our every political wish upon the presidency. What would a McCain, Hillary or even an Obama matter if we acted where our power is most concentrated: our individual reps and senators? Those are the pols we can best manage and turn-out as needed.

Ron Paul supporters especially have bought in to that. They actually believe that he could do the stuff he promises. When in reality the only thing that he could accomplish is pulling out of iraq.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Tess Anderson on March 09, 2008, 08:42:38 PM
Pawlenty! If Karl Rove has any say in this, that name should be "floated".
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.


No, please, no. There's too many rumours out that Jimbo is a homosexual, wave  bye bye to the Religious Right voting bloc - Juan is bad enough alone.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: onthedge on March 09, 2008, 08:52:55 PM
Pawlenty! If Karl Rove has any say in this, that name should be "floated".
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.


No, please, no. There's too many rumours out that Jimbo is a homosexual, wave  bye bye to the Religious Right voting bloc - Juan is bad enough alone.
That has been the rumour, or is it real?
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Duke Nukum on March 09, 2008, 09:02:53 PM
Pawlenty! If Karl Rove has any say in this, that name should be "floated".
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.


No, please, no. There's too many rumours out that Jimbo is a homosexual, wave  bye bye to the Religious Right voting bloc - Juan is bad enough alone.

I've always thought Lindsey Grahamnesty was on the short list.  Would McCain throw his own clone under  the bus simply to appease conservatives?
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Lacarnut on March 09, 2008, 09:13:55 PM
 
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A Hillary or Obama we can bounce after 4.
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I beg to differ; A Obama or Hillary win will probably provide the Democrats with a 60 plus majority in the Senate. Unless you are in your middle 40's, you do not have a clue how bad the Carter years were. Jobs were hard to find, home mortg. rates at 17%, economy in the crapper and a malaise society. You think that credit has tightened up now. How about trying to borrow a thousand buck back then and your own bank of many years wants you to put up your car and household furniture as collateral. The under 40 crowd have not seen hard times in this country and it can happen again. These two Democraps will screw this country up big time in 4 years.  
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Airwolf on March 09, 2008, 09:37:25 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.

Nervous is being to up beat, schaden just pm me your fantasies and it'll help me with my decision to vote for McCain any ways, oh heck just send them no matter what.

My fantasies aren't fit for print, they are that naughty.

Whip cream and a nail gun in the voting booth?
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Airwolf on March 09, 2008, 09:40:20 PM
Pawlenty! If Karl Rove has any say in this, that name should be "floated".
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.


No, please, no. There's too many rumours out that Jimbo is a homosexual, wave  bye bye to the Religious Right voting bloc - Juan is bad enough alone.

I've always thought Lindsey Grahamnesty was on the short list.  Would McCain throw his own clone under  the bus simply to appease conservatives?

I think McLame would do anything to get into office. Even toss his padawan learner to the dogs if need be.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Chris_ on March 09, 2008, 09:49:29 PM
I hate to be negative, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the VP will be someone we don't particularly care for. 


I hope I'm wrong, but with Crist's name being tossed around as much as it is, I am very nervous right now.

Nervous is being to up beat, schaden just pm me your fantasies and it'll help me with my decision to vote for McCain any ways, oh heck just send them no matter what.

My fantasies aren't fit for print, they are that naughty.

Whip cream and a nail gun in the voting booth?

Oh heavens!  :-*
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 10, 2008, 06:32:33 AM
If he goes to the left on his VP choice, it's going to make this even harder than it's going to be already.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on March 10, 2008, 09:59:32 AM
If he goes to the left on his VP choice, it's going to make this even harder than it's going to be already.

I think Juan McCain knows this, so he's probably going to look at someone more to the right as his veep. Mitt, Fred Thompson, Richard Pence, Santorium, or somebody like that would make the bitter pill easier to swallow.
Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Lauri on March 10, 2008, 08:29:55 PM
i'm not all that disheartened about McCain anymore. He gets a "0" from NARAL, and has a high 80s record for voting with the conservatives. I do not expect the president to respond to my every need; that's my job.

But I have seen Crist in a bunch of campaign stops with McCain.. but have yet to hear any rumors about his VP choice.

A few op-ed articles did come out today though about Romney being his VP and how beneficial that could be to the ticket. It's actually not a bad idea; Romney has a ton of executive experience to go up against Hilary and/or Obama ... AND he would be able to run after eight years as VP ..

Title: Re: I am supporting McCain
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on March 11, 2008, 09:44:50 PM
That's it... I am voting for McLame for sure.... I have had it with idiotic Barack Osama supporters. I was told at work today "You just don't like Obama because he's black".... the Dims did it... they did it. If someone doesn't like Obama, oh no! It's not because he's not experienced... he's black! And that's why!


He's got everybody duped. Some it's not so hard. They hear him give a 10 minute speech and faint like it's ****in' BeatleMania 1960's. So I will vote for McLame to combat the liberal idiots going to the voting booths for this demagogue. He's not all that bad... but I do love my country and I think Osama Obama's halth care bill will put us in worse straits than Great Britain, his tax hike and trillion dollars in new spending will kill our already bad looking economy, and his appeasement towards the terrorists will bring about more attacks. I weep for my country... and I am angry at the media basically picking our candidate for us, but I realize the alternative will be a nightmare for America and economically crush and kill many citizens.

End of rant.. where's the beer?