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Title: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: franksolich on January 14, 2010, 12:58:07 PM
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janx  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jan-10-10 11:48 PM
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Bars on the windows, bars on the doors.

I live in ABQ, New Mexico. There are bars on the windows and bars all across the entrance to my home. They are an ugly, dull white color, and they're rusty. I'd love to be able to get rid of them, but frankly, they keep me safe, and I can't afford an alarm system right now (apart from the dogs).

Do I sand the rust off somehow and then paint? Is there an inexpensive way to do this?

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Hassin Bin Sober  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-11-10 01:28 AM
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1. I used a wire brush and/or an brush attachment for my drill.

Then I got tired of painting and cut them off with a grinder. But I have a dog and alarm system.

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Wash. state Desk Jet  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-11-10 02:03 AM
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2. You can buy Rustolium paint that seals the rust on metal. It's good stuff and it works. The paint department at lowe's or home depot or most any hardware store carry's the stuff. Spray can or quart or gallon brush on. I used the brush on , on some railings and those railings look great two years later.Window guards too.

The can will say seals rust. Otherwise wire brush on a drill or grinder and sand paper and handle wire brush.

But like I said, the Rustolium paint that says it seals rust and it won't come back works. I did 2 coats. It works well on exposed beds on pick up trucks too! By the way, the brush on paint when it dries looks just like it was sprayed on. The finish looks professional.

You can google Rustolium paint products too and read about it!

On your lights, It's hard to say, there are pin push types ,and various other types, would have to see the light to say. Those bulbs can also melt in there because of how hot the bulbs get. If you know the name of the manufacturer of the lights, you may be able to google their web site ,find the lights you have and find out about installation and removal of the bulbs.

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janx  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-11-10 03:33 AM
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4. Oh man, thank you for the Rustoleum advice.

I remember the name.

As for the lights, yeah, that's my only option now. I cannot remove them, and I loved their quality and effect in the kitchen.

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Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jan-11-10 10:02 AM
THE SPARKLING HUSBAND PRIMITIVE; #05 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
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5. Before just the Rustoleum alone, consider stuff like this

http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-rust-converter.html

after which a photograph of some product

Eastwood is a high end auto restorer hobbyist supply company. Good enough stuff, but on the costly side. You can probably find a similar product locally, maybe at an auto paint supplier, for a little less, but even at this high retail, it isn't that costly. Given that your door and window grates are less stressed than car parts, it might be a good way to get an extra few years from them. Try this sory of thing and then spray over it with the Rustoleum made for rusty metal.

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janx  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-11-10 03:27 AM
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3. ha!

I have a drill/screwdriver and will look for attachments. I'll have to stick with the dogs for now.

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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jan-11-10 01:17 PM
THE DEFROCKED WARPED PRIMITIVE; #09 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
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6. The best way is to knock all the loose rust off with a wire brush

You can use an electric drill to make the process go a little faster, but a hand held brush will work.

Nothing will get rid of 100% of the rust and it will reappear over time. My favorite strategies for dealing with rust on cast iron are to remove the surface junk and then prime and paint with Rustoleum. The stuff isn't perfect but it will prolong the period between derusting and repainting.

I tend to favor dark colors on cast iron, matte black the best. That way even when the rust reappears, it takes a lot longer to look nasty.

I still don't have barred windows or doors and I'm in the War Zone. I've been broken into twice since I've lived here, though, so I really need to consider something besides putting what few valuables I have in cockamamie places and owning only cheap, refurbished electronics.

Wow.

New Mexico a "war zone"?

New Mexico used to be a nice, laid back, mellow place, until the artsy-craftsty people discovered it and moved there.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: Chris_ on January 14, 2010, 01:06:26 PM
I guess my first question would be, why live someplace where you have to have bars on your windows and doors.......but that's just me........

doc
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: kenth on January 14, 2010, 01:08:21 PM
The orderlies allow them to paint the bars?
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: Celtic Rose on January 14, 2010, 01:08:53 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=287x8251

Wow.

New Mexico a "war zone"?

New Mexico used to be a nice, laid back, mellow place, until the artsy-craftsty people discovered it and moved there.

I would bet that a major contributor to the need to bars on the doors and windows would be certain undocumented migrants...
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: diesel driver on January 14, 2010, 01:15:39 PM
I guess my first question would be, why live someplace where you have to have bars on your windows and doors.......but that's just me........

doc

That was my first question, too....

My second one was how stupid do you have to be to ask such a question....   :hammer:  TAPE AND RATTLECAN, DUMBASS!  IT'S NOT THAT HARD!   :banghead:
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: Specbid on January 14, 2010, 01:19:58 PM

Actually, some of the advice was good. Get an electric sander. Knock the rust and white paint off. Spray gloss black Rustoleum. Should work okay.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: Chris on January 14, 2010, 01:20:28 PM
My second one was how stupid do you have to be to ask such a question....   :hammer:  TAPE AND RATTLECAN, DUMBASS!  IT'S NOT THAT HARD!   :banghead:

Apparently, it is.  And these are the self-annointed 'smartest people on the planet'. 
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: Chris_ on January 14, 2010, 01:24:31 PM
Actually, we had a house once that had a lot of decorative wrought iron on it, and I finally got tired of painting it.........so I  took it off, hauled it to a sandblaster, and had it "powdercoated".........end of problem, I was told that the coatings would last twenty years.......

doc
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: IassaFTots on January 14, 2010, 01:25:45 PM
I guess my first question would be, why live someplace where you have to have bars on your windows and doors.......but that's just me........

doc

My Grandparents were advised by their insurance agent back in the 80's to put bars on the windows and doors.  They lived in a upper middle class neighborhood, on the MS. Gulf Coast.  They did, because the insurance was cheaper.  I hated the danged things.  
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 14, 2010, 01:32:26 PM
I am so ashamed of the jinxed. You shouldn't have bars on your windows. You shouldn't have locks on your doors. Criminals are just misguided victims of the Bush years, you need to make them feel welcome and share your wealth with them, your fair share, willingly.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: tuolumnejim on January 14, 2010, 01:54:09 PM
Thank God I don't live in a libtard area so I leave my door unlocked year round.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: Randy on January 14, 2010, 04:04:56 PM
http://www.ospho.com/

Rust killer, then repaint.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: Reality vs DU on January 14, 2010, 09:20:14 PM
I guess my first question would be, why live someplace where you have to have bars on your windows and doors.......but that's just me........


Most DUmmies live in blue states...
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: Tucker on January 14, 2010, 09:26:36 PM
WARNING

Don't go cheap on the wire wheel. Wear safety glasses. The little wires may/do fly off.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: NHSparky on January 14, 2010, 09:34:22 PM
Not all of NM is a libtard wasteland.  San Juan County is solidly red, thanks.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: tuolumnejim on January 14, 2010, 09:55:00 PM
Not all of NM is a libtard wasteland.  San Juan County is solidly red, thanks.
Just like here in the PRK.  :doh:
Title: Re: primitives discuss bars on windows, bars on doors
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 14, 2010, 10:23:52 PM
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janx  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jan-10-10 11:48 PM
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Bars on the windows, bars on the doors.

There are bars on the windows and bars all across the entrance to my home. They are an ugly, dull white color, and they're rusty. I'd love to be able to get rid of them

Most DUmmies spend at least part of their lives in a "home" that fits this description.