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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on January 14, 2010, 08:08:50 AM
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-14-10 12:37 AM
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Are there other countries helping US with the tragedy of Haiti?
It is chaos. It is helplessness. It is so horrific it is unimaginable.
I noticed that Rush Limbaugh was critical of Obama for speaking out and sending help to Haiti within 24 hours when it took him 3 days to comment on the Pink Panther that burned his pecker off in an ill-fated and unsuccessful attempt to blow up an American plane with 300 people on board...
Your fav country Cuba sent nothing. :whatever:
http://www.democraticunderground.com//discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7461361
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Your fav country Cuba sent nothing. :whatever:
http://www.democraticunderground.com//discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7461361
To be fair there was talk of putting UN child molesters, I mean Peacekeepers, in charge for a while. I wonder what country their from?
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Fox showed a list last night of several countries that are sending various forms of aid....from medical personnel, searchers with dog teams, food, water, tents, equipment, etc.
China was either the first to arrive or arrived right after us.
Fox just showed several planes on the ground at the airport. France, Spain, Canada, Italy(?) were all on the list I saw.
I'm surprised the original poster mentioned Obama's quick response compared with his delay in responding to the attempted plane bombing. Good for Rush for pointing it out. I guess responding to Haiti, allowed Obama to be the one "in charge" of the relief program.
Fox reported about 15 minutes ago that Obama has asked GW to pair up with Bill Clinton to head up the Haiti relief fundraising like Bush I and Clinton did for the tsunami relief.
I'm sure that GW will do it, because that's the person that he is.....but I wonder how long it will take for Obama, his merry band of idiots and the liberal media to start blaming him for the least little thing that they perceive to be mismanaged?
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Several large corporations have started pledging money as well. Cisco has commited to $250,000, and has agree to match $1,000,000 in employee contributions, to start with. I've also seen news reports on various countries pledging Aid. The US will probably end up being the most significant because we are so close, but I'm sure others will help.
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Fox reported about 15 minutes ago that Obama has asked GW to pair up with Bill Clinton to head up the Haiti relief fundraising like Bush I and Clinton did for the tsunami relief.
I'm sure that GW will do it, because that's the person that he is.....but I wonder how long it will take for Obama, his merry band of idiots and the liberal media to start blaming him for the least little thing that they perceive to be mismanaged?
Obama wants to take credit. The thing is, people would be donating and sending aid without him saying a word.
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There were already something like 7,000 UN personnel there doing peacekeeping and support, of course to some extent they are now victims as well since I gather their barracks were heavily damaged and no doubt some number of them killed and injured too.
As Deb mentioned, the Chinese delivered an aircraft load of supplies as well, and no doubt much is on the way from other sources besides us. But let's be fair here, for this kind of emergency, massive help is required immediately to save lives, i.e. any rescue efforts with heavy equipment and labor to extract survivors has to be in the first 72 hours, getting anyone out alive after that is a miracle. We are the only people in a position to do that, and it would be morally wrong to shirk or stint it.
The infrastructure to deliver necessities like water, power, and sewage (Where services existed) is pretty much destroyed in at least Port-au-Prince, it is going to be a huge challenge to provide life support for the survivors now and in the coming weeks while that infrastructure is patched back together and brought on line again. And you can't take a deliberate and carefully-planned approach to delivering drinking water or emergency rations to a million victims of a disaster, you pretty much have to throw resources at it until you can get the situation stabilized enough for a deliberate planning process to take over control.
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Vesta....there are over 40,000 Americans in Haiti at this time.
Many of them are missing or dead.
There are over 100,000 Haitian-born people in a particular area of NJ ( I think it is)....they are hard working people providing for themselves, their families here and their families in Haiti. Many have been here for a very long time.
The people who are currently on Haiti are in a world of shit with little to no optimism of things getting better anytime soon....they are real live people....regardless of their nationality.
This is a horrific tragedy 200 miles or so off of our Southern coast.
We should help them.....that's part of our American nature.
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I hope that GW Bush does not take up the mantle for Haiti.
!. It gets his name back in the news and the MSM will start running all sorts of old news for the donks.
2. If all goes well, which it probably will, then Obama takes teh credit for Bush's work.
3. If it goes poorly, then Obama blames Bush..again.
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I hope that GW Bush does not take up the mantle for Haiti.
!. It gets his name back in the news and the MSM will start running all sorts of old news for the donks.
2. If all goes well, which it probably will, then Obama takes teh credit for Bush's work.
3. If it goes poorly, then Obama blames Bush..again.
Exactly.
However....GW being the person he is....will help.
I don't think he would even consider not helping....regardless of the inevitable fallout that will occur from MSM and the liberals.
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Exactly.
However....GW being the person he is....will help.
I don't think he would even consider not helping....regardless of the inevitable fallout that will occur from MSM and the liberals.
Agreed. I think GW Bush is big enough person to know that help must be given to Haiti. If he has to face issues with the MSM, I hope he will be able to ignore it. I don't think he has any plans to run for political office again, so whatever they say they are essentially saying about a private citizen. If the MSM exploits this to knock GW Bush, well that says much more about them that about him.
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Fox reported about 15 minutes ago that Obama has asked GW to pair up with Bill Clinton to head up the Haiti relief fundraising like Bush I and Clinton did for the tsunami relief.
I'm sure that GW will do it, because that's the person that he is.....but I wonder how long it will take for Obama, his merry band of idiots and the liberal media to start blaming him for the least little thing that they perceive to be mismanaged?
Don't you find it a bit odd that the very person who has been labelled as the architect of every plague known to man by Oboobie and his henchmen is now asked to spearhead the Haiti relief efforts???
Why does Obama hate Haitians???
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There were already something like 7,000 UN personnel there doing peacekeeping and support, of course to some extent they are now victims as well since I gather their barracks were heavily damaged and no doubt some number of them killed and injured too.
The US is going to park a hospital ship there. We will probably even have a nuclear powered ship ready in case we need to put some juice on the lines for inland hospitals and feeding stations and stuff. Those will have to be "fixed" up first of course.
Too bad we don't do MASH units anymore.
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Agreed. I think GW Bush is big enough person to know that help must be given to Haiti. If he has to face issues with the MSM, I hope he will be able to ignore it. I don't think he has any plans to run for political office again, so whatever they say they are essentially saying about a private citizen. If the MSM exploits this to knock GW Bush, well that says much more about them that about him.
There is no integrity to journalism so they won't care what anyone thinks of them.
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The US is going to park a hospital ship there. We will probably even have a nuclear powered ship ready in case we need to put some juice on the lines for inland hospitals and feeding stations and stuff. Those will have to be "fixed" up first of course.
Too bad we don't do MASH units anymore.
The USS Carl Vinson left Norfolk yesterday loaded with supplies that were ferried out to the ship so that they didn't have to take hours docking and undocking....which takes hours and hours...
The Vinson had already set sail to leave the east coast from having been overhauled and heading back to the west coast when the earthquake happened which is why the stuff was ferried out.
It is a nuclear aircraft carrier.
http://wjz.com/wireapnewsva/USS.Carl.Vinson.2.1423386.html
My son was on the USS Abraham Lincoln in Hong Kong, when GW ordered them to ship out tout suite for tsunami relief. Even though they were sent there, they were kept several miles off the coast. I would think the Vinson would be kept off coast also.