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Current Events => Economics => Topic started by: Celtic Rose on January 12, 2010, 10:13:28 AM

Title: White House changes how stimulus jobs are counted
Post by: Celtic Rose on January 12, 2010, 10:13:28 AM
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Until a policy change last month, Obama administration officials had said they would keep a running count of the number of jobs created or saved by the massive American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

Going forward, the White House will only tally jobs one quarter at a time and not attempt to determine a total.

On top of that, the administration has directed Recovery Act recipients to report all jobs funded with stimulus money - regardless of whether they were new jobs or existing ones. That change gets rid of the controversial "jobs saved" designation, which asked recipients to determine which positions would have been eliminated were it not for stimulus.

More Here Link (http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/11/news/economy/stimulus_job_counts/index.htm)

Lovely solution to the failure of the stimulus plan.  If the numbers don't show an improvement, change the reporting method.
Title: Re: White House changes how stimulus jobs are counted
Post by: Carl on January 12, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
Don`t worry though...plenty left to prop up the union rolls for the midterms.
Title: Re: White House changes how stimulus jobs are counted
Post by: thundley4 on January 12, 2010, 10:24:39 AM
Don`t worry though...plenty left to prop up the union rolls for the midterms.

I've seen some rumors that Big Labor will cave on on their opposition to taxing "Cadillac plans" in exchange for a push by Lord Zero to get card check passed.
Title: Re: White House changes how stimulus jobs are counted
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 12, 2010, 10:48:54 AM
 :rotf:

If the statistics show you really suck, use different statistics!
Title: Re: White House changes how stimulus jobs are counted
Post by: DefiantSix on January 12, 2010, 04:02:13 PM
I've seen some rumors that Big Labor will cave on on their opposition to taxing "Cadillac plans" in exchange for a push by Lord Zero to get card check passed.

Believe it.  Allowing the taxing of "Cadillac plans" also fits nicely with their ultimate "single payer" goal as well. by taxing them, they push up the costs, overload the system, and when they collapse the system, gub'mint run health care swoops in, goes , "tsk, tsk, tsk; we tried the market approach and the market failed", and imposes nationalized health care on the ruins.  Gub'mint wins; the unions are relieved of the burden of health care for their proles.  Everybody - that matters - is happy.
Title: Re: White House changes how stimulus jobs are counted
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 12, 2010, 05:33:55 PM
Believe it.  Allowing the taxing of "Cadillac plans" also fits nicely with their ultimate "single payer" goal as well. by taxing them, they push up the costs, overload the system, and when they collapse the system, gub'mint run health care swoops in, goes , "tsk, tsk, tsk; we tried the market approach and the market failed", and imposes nationalized health care on the ruins.  Gub'mint wins; the unions are relieved of the burden of health care for their proles.  Everybody - that matters - is happy.

Actually the unions aren't going to be that happy at that point, because when they find out how good the 'Public option' they get to replace their old plan is, they'll shit.  But they will be too far down the snake's throat to do a damned thing about it by then.
Title: Re: White House changes how stimulus jobs are counted
Post by: DefiantSix on January 12, 2010, 07:12:43 PM
Actually the unions aren't going to be that happy at that point, because when they find out how good the 'Public option' they get to replace their old plan is, they'll shit.  But they will be too far down the snake's throat to do a damned thing about it by then.

Correction: the union rank and file aren't gonna like it.  The union bosses are going to find the government's take over of the health care of it's members a convenient distraction to take all the money they shoulda been pouring into those plans and running.

Otherwise I think we're both on the same page.
Title: Re: White House changes how stimulus jobs are counted
Post by: bkg on January 12, 2010, 07:15:21 PM
Correction: the union rank and file aren't gonna like it.  The union bosses are going to find the government's take over of the health care of it's members a convenient distraction to take all the money they shoulda been pouring into those plans and running.

Otherwise I think we're both on the same page.

And the legacy costs will be shifted to the public anyway... oh... wait...  too late. :rotf:

Cadillac is nothing but a distraction to bolster the unions.