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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: USA4ME on January 11, 2010, 02:32:16 PM
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johnlal
Harry Reid's comments were racist.
There should be no double standard between Trent Lott's remarks and Harry Reid's remarks. Both were racist remarks. Once you determine that, it seems kind of foolish to defend Reid on being less racist than Lott. The comment that was reported showed a kind of insensitivity and ignorance that should disqualify Reid from being the leader of the Senate-- or the leader of anything for that matter. He should be asked to step down. Fears that this would somehow weaken the Democratic party should be balanced against the reality that the Senate is being led by a stupid racist.
http://www.democraticunderground.com//discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7440740
Of course it was. But Dingy Harry is a Dem, so time to circle the wagons.
ChairmanAgnostic
1. what a crock
Enrique
2. why do you think Obama and the Black Caucus support Reid?
you think they want a racist to keep that position?
Yes, they apparently have no problem with it, insofar as they're willing to lie and cover for him. Just like all of you are willing to do the same. You're mindless sheep.
11 Bravo
3. Horseshit.
Ill-advised, yes. Racist, no.
hlthe2b
4. A lot of people seem to feel that way...
--all on the RW or Free Republic...
And they would be correct.
FrenchieCat
5. **** that shit!
Barbara Lee speaks for me!
"Over the years, I have had an opportunity to work with Majority Leader Reid," Rep. Barbara Lee, chairwoman of the caucus, said in a statement.
"Senator Reid's record provides a stark contrast to actions of Republicans to block legislation that would benefit poor and minority communities."
Lee added that she looked forward to Reid serving as majority leader.
"There are too many issues like the economy, job creation and energy for these regrettable comments to distract us from the work that must be done on behalf of the American people," she said.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/11/reid.obama/index...
Whatever the Dem leadership tells you to believe is who speaks for you, frogcat. You've consistently demonstrated that time and time again.
cali
6. No. They. Were. Not.
This says it better than I ever could. It's beyond stupid and disgusting to compare what Reid said with what Lott said. Now how about you refute this:
t's not Harry Reid who should be apologizing
His remarks about Obama, however indelicate, carried an unfortunate truth. The real scandal is comparing him to Trent Lott, as Republican Michael Steele did.
By Sandy Banks
January 11, 2010
Harry Reid doesn't owe me an apology.
Sure, it was a little odd to see the term "Negro" used outside of a history class or documentary. Sounds like Reid is stuck in the last century.
But the Senate majority leader didn't say anything many Americans -- especially us Negroes -- don't already know.
If you're black, it is easier in this country to be light-skinned.
That's borne out not just by anecdote and experience, but by research documenting favorable treatment for fair-skinned blacks in criminal cases, employment prospects, even social and romantic liaisons.
Studies have shown that darker-skinned blacks are more likely to be unemployed, earn less and hold lower-prestige jobs. In the criminal justice system, convicted murderers with "stereotypically black" features are more than twice as likely as light-skinned defendants to receive death sentences from juries.
Don't blame Reid for the preference. Blame bigotry. Blame history.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-reid...
:rotf:
Dingy Harry calls Dear Leader a light-skinned Nego who purposely lost his ebonics accent, but it's not his fault.
Dem leadership says believe this, cali falls in line. Typical of her.
blondeatlast
7. FAIL. No difference? Too ignorant to be taken seriously.
OK. :mental:
Warpy
8. Grow up
There's a difference between the tacky and the racist.
People say tacky things all the time, especially when they're tired or stressed. I'll bet even a pinnacle of perfection such as yourself has from time to time.
Racism means denial of opportunity and access due to race.
Get it?
Actually rascism means that you believe your race is superior to others, an attitude which would result in calling Dear Leader a Negro, and would result in other racists defending such language as just being tacky.
blondeatlast
9. FAIL. No difference? Too ignorant to be taken seriously.
You already said that, blondie.
freddie mertz
10. I don't think he meant any harm. He's an old coot from squaresville.
Using antiquated language to make what was, in fact, an honest and accurate evaluation of the American electorate's prejudices.
Nice lie. Won't work, but nice lie.
Gidney N Cloyd
11. Your entitled to your opinion. Or FreeRepublic's.
.... or that of normal people who don't put party allegiance over truth.
Tom Rinaldo
12. What was racist about making an observation that was routinely affirmed at DU?
The debate here at the time was over how much difference racism would make in hurting Obama's chances, not whether or not it would be a factor. And I don't think there was anyone here so naive as to believe that Barack Obama, like Jackie Robinson a long time before him, was ideally suited to be the break through personality shattering racial ceilings because he had a white mother, went to Harvard, and was incredibly "well spoken" aloong with his obvious talent. It is simply a fact that Obama was less threatening to some white voters than a Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton would have been.
Neither we nor Harry Reid were discussing the world as it should be, we were all discussing the world as it actually is.
Oh, I dunno. I suppose it because if a Republican had said the exact same thing you'd be calling them a racist, so you're hypocrites. Yeah, it's definately that.
opihimoimoi
14. No way racist...its a projection by Steele....the irony of it all is stunning
That Uncle Tom Steele is the real racist. :whatever:
Captain Hilts
15. No, they were not. Stupid, yes. Racist, no.
Stupid, yes, Racist, yes. And I'm not just talking about you, Cap'n Hilts primitive.
blondeatlast
16. Johnny Hit and Run? Or do you have the courage to back your OP up?
Are you sure you said that? Post it again.
pnwmom
18. Wrong. Reid correctly acknowledged the continuing existence of racism in America,
while erring in using the outdated term, "Negro."
Lott, on the other hand, mourned the passing of segregation.
There is a world of difference between the men and their statements.
Except that if Reid had said what Lott said, and Lot had said what Reid said, you'd have defended Reid and still called Lott a racist. You're a hypocrite.
crikkett
19. It sounds like his comment was observational.
It did expose his prejudice about blacks. I support Pres. Obama's graciousness towards that old white man, and that's why I don't think that Reid should step down over that issue. Had the President given a different signal I'd call for Reid's resignation over that issue.
Reid should resign because he's squandered a supermajority in the Senate.
Dear Leader didn't give the command to sack Reid, so it's OK with the crikkett primitive.
DJ13
20. No, it wasnt really racist, but it IS a deliberate smoke screen
The MSM is trying to keep the main focus off Bill Clinton's really racist remarks.
And if you start a thread about Clinton's remark being racist, a bunch of your fellow primitives will rush to defend him. Just try it.
TheKentuckian
21. No that's off base and utterly ignores his record and the context
Now, if you want to talk about stupid, out of touch, out of date, and further evidence of his ineptitude then I'm with ya but you can take the GOP talking points and kick rocks.
:lalala: :lalala: :lalala: :lalala:
cali
26. let me explain the difference, honeypie.
Lott was endorsing Thurmond's hideously racist past and agenda when he said that Thurmond would have been good for America as President. Reid was explaining, albeit in anachronistic and offensive phraseology, the reality that white Americans are still bigoted against black politicians that they perceive as "too black".
Even a total ******* moron should be able to grasp that, sweetheart.
Actually, what you described are the only type of people who would view it that way. The rest of us, those who aren't afraid to viewing the truth and calling it what it is, realize that what Reid said was racist and those who defend what Reid said are racists. You are a racist, bitter old Vermontese cali primitive, that's not up for further discussion or debate. Case closed.
Hey primitives, Dingy Harry is a racist, and you're defending him and making excuses. We already knew you were racists, and your further confirmation is noted and appreciated.
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Only one honest person in the group...the op.
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don't forget Blago "I'm blacker than Barack Obama" due to growing up lower middle-class or something.
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Hell, Robert Byrd used the N-bomb on national friggin' tv and didn't get so much as a wrist slap. Trent Lott says something incredibly stupid and gets bounced.
Absolute hypocrites....
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Liberals/fascists/communists use the big tent only in so much as it pushes them toward their goal of removing the middle class. I first became aware of this when the rapist in chief, BJ Clinton got not one word form any of the femanazi groups.
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If there was nothing to the remarks at the DUmmies say...why then did Reid feel the need to apologize?
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I love how all the dems are trying to tell us what he was TRYING to say while the black liberals are apologists for Reid as well. I think they are in shock that the party they thought really cared about them really don't give a shit. They are just as racist as they claim the others side is and they can't handle it. The other thing that is keeping them from calling Reid out is that they know that the democratic party as a whole would be damaged. They can't have that......no stay on that liberal plantation OR ELSE.
Have they said anything about "a few years ago he would be serving us coffee" Clinton yet? I would love to hear what they claim Clinton "really" meant.
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It's really hard for a democrat to get in trouble at the DUmp, as long as there are no doubts about his enthusiasm for butchering human babies.
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BEG, I couldn't find anything with a quick perusal. I'm surprised Harry's was brought up at all. I read through this thread over there and I've never seen such a bunch of jittery, incoherent, panicky-feeling posts.
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Have they said anything about "a few years ago he would be serving us coffee" Clinton yet? I would love to hear what they claim Clinton "really" meant.
Just one of several http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x117171
Of course, it's all a vast right wing conspiracy as per usual.
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A Democrat can be a Grand Dragon of the KKK, or use the N word and not be racist.
All a Republican has to say is "Macaca" to be a racist, even though no one has yet told me what that word means.
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A Democrat can be a Grand Dragon of the KKK, or use the N word and not be racist.
All a Republican has to say is "Macaca" to be a racist, even though no one has yet told me what that word means.
Liberalism comes before anything else. Obama could probably still get the American jewish vote if he personally nukes Jerusalem.
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Enrique
2. why do you think Obama and the Black Caucus support Reid?
Because working in the house is easier than working in the fields.
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Because working in the house is easier than working in the fields.
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Because working in the house is easier than working in the fields.
A few years ago, they would be getting Bill Clinton's coffee.
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Barbara Lee speaks for me!
"Over the years, I have had an opportunity to work with Majority Leader Reid," Rep. Barbara Lee, chairwoman of the caucus, said in a statement.
"Senator Reid's record provides a stark contrast to actions of Republicans to block legislation that would benefit poor and minority communities."
And that's really what it's all about, isn't it?
A Dim can be as racist as they want, as long as the vote-buying money keeps rolling in. Just like a Dim can be as misogynistic as they want as long as they support abortion, or as pro-war as they want as long as the free health care pony is promised.
Moonbats are hoors who'll go spreadeagle for any political John who'll toss them a few bennies, and DU is the biggest cathouse on the planet.
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I remember the racist cartoons of Condi and Powell the DUmp swooned over a few years ago. They have to defend liberal racists because that is what they are.
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Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7445629)
There's the link to the Bill Clinton coffee deal.
I just love this quote and had to bring it over from the thread:
sui generis (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-12-10 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. I repeat, we are a bunch of tools.
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Here's the beautiful thing about it; give it a few years and the primitives will sing a different tune about the whole situation.
If Skin's island had been up in the 1990's, they would have defended Clinton's every move tooth and nail, just as we watched them do in real life. But now, he was a corporate whore who did more to advance the Republican agenda than any Republican ever did.
Right now, Dingy Harry isn't a racist. Give him time to be out of office for a year or two, he'll be called a racist by the same primitives who are now defending him.
Predictable, as always.
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For the DUmmies trolling here, the comments made about Condi Rice were OK...............right??? or was she too..............black???