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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 09, 2010, 05:09:46 AM
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RE: the ramming of the Ady Gil by a Japanese Whaler and how best to avoid being rammed.
I won't bore you with the boring but this leapt out at me:
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29. check post #27
If you're driving a car through an intersection, and another car is about to hit you, do you:
a).- Slam on the brakes and brace for impact
b).- floor the accelerator and try to get out of the way.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7424639
Damn maneuverable boats those whaling trawlers.
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76. If you look at the video, there's an interesting observation to be made.
There's a pretty good wake behind the bat boat for a while as they boast to each other that they slowed down the Japanese boat and "made it ****ing zig zag".
Then for 10-20 seconds there's not much wake. The boat's idling. It's moving, just more slowly. It's hard to gauge absolute movement at sea without looking at a fixed point or actually seeing where the stern or bow touch the water, or the wake.
Meanwhile the whaling boat comes barreling down on them. Now, given the way it looks, you'd think the boat's moving at least 30-40 miles an hour and approaching from a great distance. It's probably not moving that quickly, and when we first see it it's probably not as far away as it looks.
40 mph? Really?
I'll be the first to admit that my heteronormativity has prevented me from enlisting in the naval services but even I know 40 mph is a rather fantastic claim for a ship's speed.
I think our nuclear powered larger surface vessels cap out at 30 to 35 knots (published).
These are the same people who presume to lecture us on the technicalities of war.
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The Moonbats hoped to throw their lil boat in front of the ship to make it swerve. It, like most moonbatty plans FAILED. Mr Japanese Whaling Ship just didn't give 2 shits about a boat full of moonbats/pirates that it was actively trying to repel and ran it over when it threw itself in the way.
Pretty simple really, unless you're a DUmmie.
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Damage control officer to Captain of Japanese whaling ship, "Uh oh...better call MACO.....The bastards just scratched our new paint job."
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Awesome thread title. That is all!
:-)
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RE: the ramming of the Ady Gil by a Japanese Whaler and how best to avoid being rammed.
I won't bore you with the boring but this leapt out at me:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7424639
Damn maneuverable boats those whaling trawlers.
40 mph? Really?
I'll be the first to admit that my heteronormativity has prevented me from enlisting in the naval services but even I know 40 mph is a rather fantastic claim for a ship's speed.
I think our nuclear powered larger surface vessels cap out at 30 to 35 knots (published).
These are the same people who presume to lecture us on the technicalities of war.
Knots are actually nautical miles per hour and a nautical mile is 1,000 feet longer than a statute mile, so 40 mph is somewhere around 32 or 33 knots. Still a speed only smugglers and warships normally are designed to make, since speed costs money and commercial vessels are designed to make money, not burn it.
Ships don't turn on a dime, the lighter vessels in the Japanese fishing fleet are 'Maneuverable' relative to the bigger ships, but like icebergs compared to small craft like the bat-boat.
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1 knot = 1.15 mph, so 35 knots is 40 mph.
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1 knot = 1.15 mph, so 35 knots is 40 mph.
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Still, for a whaling vessel?
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Still, for a whaling vessel?
Oh, I was was giving the correct mathematical formula to convert knots to mph and vice versa, that's all. I agree and would guess that whaling vessels of that size might get up to 22 knots or so, but that's about it.
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Yeah, exactly my point too, USA4ME, except I didn't look up the correct conversion first and somewhat misremembered the difference between nautical and statute miles. Commercial vessels aren't built to go any faster than the economics of their use would dictate as productive, because every additional knot raises the power requirement and thus cost on a logarithmic curve, not a straight line.
There isn't much of anything that size that has an economics-based reason to top out at 35 knots or better, generally even a 'Fast' commercial vessel translates to something in that 22 knot ballpark. Even in the days when people whose time was money traveled by ocean liner from one continent to another, the fast liners operated with about a 25-27 knot top end, and only a few very top-shelf, state-of-the-art premium price ones went faster.
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Yep--only warships which aren't overly concerned about fuel consumption are generally capable of anything more than 20-25 kts, and even then, we'll generally travel from point A to point B at well under that. Even the Ady Gil has a "cruise" speed of 20 knots.
That being said, looking at the video I saw, it was pretty clear that the smaller boat was the burdened vessel and required to avoid collision, while the whaling ship was required to maintain course and speed, and did so up to the point where it was pretty apparent the green dipshits were trying to ram her.
But a question I have for the DUmmies lurking--knowing what we know about the relationship between speed and fuel consumption, it's not very "green" of ya'll to be running around in a boat at 50 knots, knowwhutImeanVern?
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Awesome thread title. That is all!
:-)
Yeah, I thought it was about democrat chicks, too.
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If I was the captain of that ship...I'd simply explain that I thought they were pirates and therefore was doing everything I could to prevent them from boarding and taking my crew hostage.
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When I was stationed at NAS Pax River, I did a lot of boating on the Chesapeake Bay. There is a whole lot of ship traffic going up to Baltimore. I always went but the simple rule that the biggest boat wins. Even when sailing, you give way to 100 ton ships, not the other way around.
http://www.workingwaterfront.com/online-exclusives/I-have-the-right-of-way%A6-or-do-I/13244/
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Now the people that rammed the the Whaling ship...haved filed a piracy complaint against the captain of the ship they hit.
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There are rules of the seas and the (moon)bat broke them. Case is closed.
Spot on Doc, bigger ship theory because you can't sue if your are dead.
For the moonbats that think piloting a ship is like driving you have never done it. One does not steer a boat, one guides it.
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Now the people that rammed the the Whaling ship...haved filed a piracy complaint against the captain of the ship they hit.
:mental:
They hit the fishing boat on purpose for PR reasons, I bet they got a lot of donations too.
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They hit the fishing boat on purpose for PR reasons, I bet they got a lot of donations too.
Their main ship is named the "Bob Barker" after the former Price is Right host who donated the $5K they needed to purchase it.
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Their main ship is named the "Bob Barker" after the former Price is Right host who donated the $5K they needed to purchase it.
I meant that this particular PR stunt, driving into the whaling ship, has probably brought in more than enough donations to replace the ship and pay the lawyer to sue the whaling ship too.
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I meant that this particular PR stunt, driving into the whaling ship, has probably brought in more than enough donations to replace the ship and pay the lawyer to sue the whaling ship too.
Agreed...there is that too.
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A little background on the "heroic" Sea Shepherd crew:
According to Ecorazzi.com, a self-proclaimed "green" gossip site, the group revealed it was using a "photonic disruptor" against the whaling crew. According to WickedLasers.com says that particular laser has been featured on another Discovery Channel program - "Future Weapons" - and it can "temporarily overwhelm a threat's visual senses."
But on the very same page are indications, such as the pirate logo on the Deleted Scenes button and on the caps worn by the crew, that the eco-activists are up to something less benign.
Paul Watson, founder of the Sea Shepherd Society, has publicly said mankind is a "virus" and we need to "re-wild the planet." In a May 4, 2007 editorial, Watson said "We are killing our host the planet Earth" and refused to apologize for having called human beings the "AIDS of the Earth."
He called for a population reduction to less than 1 billion people. The world population is nearly 6.8 billion as of Dec. 23, 2009. Watson also called for humans to return to primitive lifestyles. "We need to stop flying, stop driving cars, and jetting around on marine recreational vehicles. The Mennonites survive without cars and so can the rest of us."
As for the "Whale Wars," there is already a worldwide moratorium on commercial whaling, but Japan continues to run a scientific whaling program. In February 2009, the Los Angeles Times wrote about a "bitter face-off" in Japan over whaling between Greenpeace activists and the Japanese government.
"These men have been painted as heroes," Joji Morishita said on behalf of the Japanese government. According to that article, 100 whales are "culled by Japan each winter." Norway and Iceland also "cull a limited number."
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/julia-seymour/2009/12/23/heroes-discovery-channel-show-use-lasers-japanese-whalers#ixzz0c94u5LPK
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Paul Watson is wanted in the US for eco-terrorism isn't he?
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While the Japanese 'Research program' is a thinly-disguised fishery take for food (I'll believe it's really science when they don't freeze or can and then sell the 'Specimens'), I'm not a whale-worshipper so it's really no skin off my nose as long as it isn't endangering them as a species.
I like to use Whale Wars and the Sea Shepherd crew as examples of small group leadership teaching young officers...as BAD examples, that is! :-) "Watch the show, and don't do it the way those idiots do it."
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Off topic: I was getting ready this morning and a commercial for South Beach diet came on the tv. I thought it said, "On South Beach lose whales.". It came on again a few minute ago, it said weight not whales. Would it be brillant if they actually used whales. I bet you the thought crossed their mind. :p
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South Beach Whales? Funny. I thought this was going to be about weight, too. I know nothing about big ships, all I know is that piece of video is one of the funniest damn things I have ever seen. I think I watched it like 12 times and laughed my ass off every time. More please, moonbats???
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Their main ship is named the "Bob Barker" after the former Price is Right host who donated the $5M they needed to purchase it.
Ole Bob put his money where his :mental: mouth is.
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When I was stationed at NAS Pax River, I did a lot of boating on the Chesapeake Bay. There is a whole lot of ship traffic going up to Baltimore. I always went but the simple rule that the biggest boat wins. Even when sailing, you give way to 100 ton ships, not the other way around.
http://www.workingwaterfront.com/online-exclusives/I-have-the-right-of-way%A6-or-do-I/13244/
Same rules/laws apply on land in real life as well. Rule #1 is ALWAYS YIELD THE RIGHT OF WAY TO A LARGER VEHICLE!
I used to drive for a trucking company, and one day I had to take two 55-gallon drums (weighing 580lbs. each) to a coal mine in WV. I drove for 12 miles from the entrance of the mine to the guard house, then had to take a 20 minute "mine safety course". After that, they gave me a map, circled the building I had to deliver the drums to, 8 miles further into the mines.
The basic rules taught to me from the "mine safety course" were: All mine traffic has the right of way. If you hit anything, it's YOUR fault. If anything HITS YOU, IT'S YOUR FAULT! Stay alert, be careful, stay out of the way and don't hit anything....
Somebody should have given the "mine safety course" to these nimrods on the batboat....
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Ole Bob put his money where his :mental: mouth is.
Ole Bob must have had a bundle left after settling all those dirty old man lawsuits he was hit with by seven or eight different chicks on his shows.
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WTF??
Did the Japanese whaler cut them in half or not?
I hope they did. I'm thinking...maybe they can modify the entire bow into a serrated Ginsu knife blade - sure would make quick easy work of any moonbat vessel.
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Paul Watson, founder of the Sea Shepherd Society, has publicly said mankind is a "virus" and we need to "re-wild the planet." In a May 4, 2007 editorial, Watson said "We are killing our host the planet Earth" and refused to apologize for having called human beings the "AIDS of the Earth."
He called for a population reduction to less than 1 billion people.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/julia-seymour/2009/12/23/heroes-discovery-channel-show-use-lasers-japanese-whalers#ixzz0c94u5LPK
I like that idea. I have several guns at home I can loan him. He could gun down the sea shepard crew, then kill himself, he could show us the way to reduce the population and make the world a little better in the process.
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I like that idea. I have several guns at home I can loan him. He could gun down the sea shepard crew, then kill himself, he could show us the way to reduce the population and make the world a little better in the process.
No, no, you misunderstand. Watson and his people MUST be allowed to survive. They are the only ones who will make certain the earth is properly cared for. YOU'RE the polluter, not them so you must be the one to go.[/ecopsychomode]
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Those damn whalers just aren't maneuverable enough. They hit the batboat, but missed all the vermin that were in it.
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I'll be the first to admit that my heteronormativity has prevented me from enlisting in the naval services but even I know 40 mph is a rather fantastic claim for a ship's speed.
Okay SB, I can't just let that one slide:
:bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird:
:drunksailor:
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Ole Bob put his money where his :mental: mouth is.
Yeah, after 30 years of putting whale shit in his hair to dye it. Freakin hypocrite.
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Okay SB, I can't just let that one slide:
:bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird:
:drunksailor:
That's okay, dandi--his 11 on the ASVAB kept him out as well.
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That's okay, dandi--his 11 on the ASVAB kept him out as well.
Hell that qualified him for OCS at Quantico though.
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Hell that qualified him for OCS at Quantico though.
ROFL--reminds me of the old joke:
What do you call a Marine with an IQ of 6? Major.
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No, no, you misunderstand. Watson and his people MUST be allowed to survive. They are the only ones who will make certain the earth is properly cared for. YOU'RE the polluter, not them so you must be the one to go.[/ecopsychomode]
I like that idea. I have several guns at home I can loan him. He could gun down the sea shepard crew, then kill himself, he could show us the way to reduce the population and make the world a little better in the process.
I think Watson and company should lead by example and show us the proper technique for "reducing the population and making the world a little better"....
I think raghead jihadists leaders should do the same....
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That's okay, dandi--his 11 on the ASVAB kept him out as well.
97 bijjez with a 138 GT.
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97 bijjez with a 138 GT.
What is it with you Army doggies and still using GT scores?
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ROFL--reminds me of the old joke:
What do you call a Marine with an IQ of 6? Major.
That's okay. Call 'em dumb as dirt if you want, I've got a few buds that were Marines. When it comes to somebody on my six, I wouldn't trade 'em for a platoon of "Swimmers"!
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What is it with you Army doggies and still using GT scores?
The 'GT' means it goes faster, don't it?
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The 'GT' means it goes faster, don't it?
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Ummmmm.....I think that's GTO, Tank!