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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 07, 2010, 09:53:38 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7418215
Oh my.
The new popular word on Skins's island is "hiatus."
AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-07-10 07:44 PM
THE ALLENTOWN DUDE PRIMITIVE
Original message
A Hiatus from DU for a while
I'm going to be stepping away for a little while. I've made the decision to start a daily blog which will focus on highlights of the economic news, legislation in congress and my opinion of it and campaign finance issues. DU has a journal function but really doesn't have a blog function so I'll be doing this with another host.
It isn't going to be anti-administration, it will just be things going on I think people should know about both good and bad so they can be informed and learn. Since the administration is the ones running things, there will be by nature critical comments on decisions made. Preparing a daily blog entry will force me to learn as well and I hope it helps me grow as a writer and communicator.
We have come to a point where I really don't think we are listening to each other or talking on this site. I do not fault Skinner, the mods, or anyone on the DU team for this dynamic. We as an online community have created it. There has been a team mentality that has developed and I willingly accept that I have bought into this for a while and contributed to it at times.
That being said, the tone on here will not change till each person takes responsibility for what they say to each other. Snark is one thing, but I have been seeing an increase in very personal, and very hateful attacks on members the past few weeks that are not based on politics. Each side likes to play the victim but each side has their own worst offenders they do not take responsibility for.
I will say this. There are people on the side that agrees with me most of the time who I have little respect for, for the way they talk to others and attack them. There are also people on the side who disagrees with my opinion like Grantcart, who I hope doesn't take this as a call-out, that I have enormous respect for.
If your interested in following my blog, you are free to PM me.
I'm sure I'll be back, if saying the above doesn't get me a TS and I wish you all love and happiness if I don't see you over at the blog.
Oh my again.
The Allentown dude primitive takes Skins's island much much too seriously, I think.
Anyway.
The campfire's pretty big, but it's all primitives bemoaning the departure.
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Well, I'm going to have to swim on over and see if he's giving a link because I can hardly wait to see what profound analysis Allentown Jake will be providing the masses.
:bwah:
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I hope it helps me grow as a writer and communicator.
Hogwash. A weak excuse, indeed. You don't have to leave. Even poor stupid Beth, the dumbest person on all the internets, told us she had been "validated as a thinker and a writer" by the DUmp. No, the blog has nothing to do with it. DUmmy AJ was devastated by his miserable showing in the Top DUmmy competition. After his nomination, he surely had hopes for a very high finish. A top ten or even a top five probably seemed within his grasp. But even though he obviously worked very hard on his many goofy posts, he came in far out of the money. Not even a top twenty. And then when he looked at the human flotsam who beat him out, it must have been a crushing blow. Not surprising he's joining ladybug in the losers' room.
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He should really heed the advice of the dearly departed (or not!) TLB:
He needs to be quiet and go get some life experience, learn some things about life.
That's not going to happen behind a keyboard...
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Hello fellows,
I'm sorry you won't be able to enjoy my fine post on DU anymore, however the place has devolved into a place where people aren't really talking to each other but yelling at each other. I like debate not flame wars and football team politics.
We probably disagree on everything. That is OK, the one thing America still has going for it, is for now we can still disagree with each other.
If you promise to play nice and be respectful. You are free to come over to my blog and I'll even let you talk to me and argue conservative economic theory. I have an incredibly open mind and really don't mind "talking to the enemy."
Sorry I couldn't say hello to you folks earlier, but DU is a little bit creeped out about your obsessive following of the goings on over there. Since I'm not planning on returning, due to the lack of discussion. I'm free not to worry about a TS for just stopping by and saying hi to you guys.
As far as the two political parties are concerned. They are both corrupt, and neither of us are going to get what we want. I hope the past 8 years taught you that as the past 1 year has taught me that. That being said, the Tea Party movement is nothing more than an arm of the GOP that will be quickly co-opted if they ever returned to power in the interest of politicians making money.
Best Regards,
AllentownJake
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do to the lack of discussion
Uh, that would be "due", DUmmy. Better get over to that blog and start growing as a writer.
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Uh, that would be "due", DUmmy. Better get over to that blog and start growing as a writer.
You are very correct sir, my grammar is not perfect. Particularly when it comes to words that sound the same with different meanings.
I like numbers and spreadsheets. It is a thing I'm working on developing. Last time I checked there was really only one man that has claimed perfection and had people verify he rose from the dead.
Plus internet postings tend not to get the review that other things do. I'm working on it.
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Gee if I thought it was the real AJ I'd have thought that he'd have dropped a link to his blog in his post or his profile. You know, not being afraid of the Pizza delivery man and all anymore. :whatever:
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Hello fellows,
I'm sorry you won't be able to enjoy my fine post on DU anymore, however the place has devolved into a place where people aren't really talking to each other but yelling at each other. I like debate not flame wars and football team politics.
We probably disagree on everything. That is OK, the one thing America still has going for it, is for now we can still disagree with each other.
If you promise to play nice and be respectful. You are free to come over to my blog and I'll even let you talk to me and argue conservative economic theory. I have an incredibly open mind and really don't mind "talking to the enemy."
Sorry I couldn't say hello to you folks earlier, but DU is a little bit creeped out about your obsessive following of the goings on over there. Since I'm not planning on returning, due to the lack of discussion. I'm free not to worry about a TS for just stopping by and saying hi to you guys.
As far as the two political parties are concerned. They are both corrupt, and neither of us are going to get what we want. I hope the past 8 years taught you that as the past 1 year has taught me that. That being said, the Tea Party movement is nothing more than an arm of the GOP that will be quickly co-opted if they ever returned to power in the interest of politicians making money.
Best Regards,
AllentownJake
At least now you don't have to hide behind a fake screen name to post here like you did before Christmas.
What you and the rest of your mouth breathing Liberal brethren fail to realize about our comments about the hive of which you just left is that a) it's a terrific source of comedy and provides us with more than one laugh every single day...b) it highlights how hypocritical you and your ilk are when it comes to free speech.
Did you ever stop to think that this part of our forum would NOT exist if you and the rest of the idiots at DU weren't so terrified of hearing an opinion or a belief that ran counter to your own?
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See, that's the problem with you leftist ****s. You want to talk to your enemy. We prefer to kill them.
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So ATJ...you still in the mood to kill us? Or was that just big talk from afar at DU to try and gain street cred?
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The same could be said about FreeRepublic. I think they would whack me pretty quick over there if I showed up. Not wanting to talk to people who disagree with you is a human condition. Not a liberal one or a conservative one.
Skinner owns the message board, he determines the rules for posting. Just like Jim owns FreeRepublic.
I have no problem with you guys lurking over there picking and choosing posts and laughing at them. If that is a form of entertainment for you, so be it. There are plenty of DUers that do the same thing with FreeRepublic.
I have no problem with free speech. I think it is great.
In the real world, I'm sure we all have a few liberal and conservative friends and a whole mess of people who don't give a shit either way. Most of my conservative friends are good people I disagree with politically.
For the most part, I'd like to believe, that we both want what is best for all the people in this country and for this country as a whole. We just disagree with the way to get there.
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So ATJ...you still in the mood to kill us? Or was that just big talk from afar at DU to try and gain street cred?
If someone wishes to assault someone over a political view. I think we both agree in self defense. Strong 2nd amendment supporter.
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If someone wishes to assault someone over a political view. I think we both agree in self defense. Strong 2nd amendment supporter.
You own a firearm?
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See, that's the problem with you leftist ****s. You want to talk to your enemy. We prefer to kill them.
How is that working out for you?
Who is your "enemy" that is the question you need to ask yourself and how do you define "enemy". How do you determine the person to eliminate....Hitler had a pretty good equation, as did Stalin. It worked for them for a time. One ended up in a bomb rocked bunker committing suicide. The other died because his own doctors were afraid to treat him.
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You own a firearm?
Have since I was 12 on my birthday and my dad gave me one. I've also hunted. I'm not that into it. It is a good skill though I think people should know. I don't like hand guns. My grandfather always said a shotgun is the best thing for you to own for your home. You don't miss in the dark. He was a cop, and preferred carrying one to a revolver.
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How is that working out for you?
Who is your "enemy" that is the question you need to ask yourself and how do you define "enemy". How do you determine the person to eliminate....Hitler had a pretty good equation, as did Stalin. It worked for them for a time. One ended up in a bomb rocked bunker committing suicide. The other died because his own doctors were afraid to treat him.
Any member of DU would be a good start.
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The same could be said about FreeRepublic. I think they would whack me pretty quick over there if I showed up.
As a FReeper of long standing myself...as long as you follow the rules you wouldn't get banned.
The Liberal trolls that show up over there don't understand that and ONLY show up with one purpose...to spew crap and purposely get banned as quickly as possible.
Not wanting to talk to people who disagree with you is a human condition.
Yeah it's called cowardice. And it IS a particular trait of the left.
Otherwise if your theory was true...no one would say a word to you when you post here.
Skinner owns the message board, he determines the rules for posting. Just like Jim owns FreeRepublic.
Only difference is that you wouldn't...as a FReeper...get banned for trying to sign up at DU.
Same can't be said in reverse.
I have no problem with you guys lurking over there picking and choosing posts and laughing at them. If that is a form of entertainment for you, so be it.
There are plenty of DUers that do the same thing with FreeRepublic.
Really? That must be all the locked threads the Mods shut down over there. The reason why you can't by name mention FR...this place or CU and they MUST be referred to as "The Site Which Can't Be Named" otherwise run the risk of a tombstone.
I have no problem with free speech. I think it is great.
As long as it's the PC leftist version right?
Most of my conservative friends are good people I disagree with politically.
Now you're contradicting yourself Jake. You said above that it's human nature to avoid talking with people you disagree with.
And now you claim to have conservative friends? Which is it?
For the most part, I'd like to believe, that we both want what is best for all the people in this country and for this country as a whole. We just disagree with the way to get there.
Yes one side believes we should become a Socialist Utopia and the other believes in the Constitution and the vision of this Country the Founding Fathers stated and has for the most part endured for over 230 years.
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If someone wishes to assault someone over a political view. I think we both agree in self defense. Strong 2nd amendment supporter.
So you were just talking out your ass on greenbriar's thread a couple weeks ago?
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How is that working out for you?
Who is your "enemy" that is the question you need to ask yourself and how do you define "enemy". How do you determine the person to eliminate....Hitler had a pretty good equation, as did Stalin. It worked for them for a time. One ended up in a bomb rocked bunker committing suicide. The other died because his own doctors were afraid to treat him.
all and all, pretty well. Of course there are set backs, like when we elected a socialst apologising defeatist as president. But reality seems to be setting in, even with him...although it takes 72 hours to figure out what he needs to say. Do you think it takes him that long to learn his lines, or does he just sit and wonder what he should do for three days.
Funny you mention Hitler and Stalin, since they we both our enemy- our bombs on the bunker, and our troops in the Fulda Gap...including me, stopped the second one- or at least the last of his line.
Or, are you calling me a Nazi or a Soviet Communist?
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Barack Obama is many things. He really isn't a socialist. Either is Geithner, Bernake, or any of the other people he has appointed. You could make the fascist argument pretty well. The mandated insurance provision is quite a remarkable provision in the legislation in testing federal powers.
As for cowardice. I'm talking to you right now, because unless you personally wish to harm me or my family, you really are not an enemy.
I enjoyed posting on DU. One of the unwritten rules there is you don't stop by here and say hello.
FreeRepublic bans people as much as DU does. Jim runs a pretty type message ship over there. I have no problem with it. FreeRepublic is the republican side of the internet echo chamber.
I'm sure I've said something dumb and contradicting at some point in time. I think every human being has, and if you claim you haven't I'd like to talk to your spouse or significant other for verification.
Best piece of advice my father ever gave me, is if a person is breathing they are a hypocrite on something. He included himself in that equation.
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I think what we have here is the latest incarnation of TLB/Jeanette. The amount of attention he gets here must be intoxicating. When this one disappears, stand by for a "Pam" or a "CalPig" to show up.
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I'm sorry you won't be able to enjoy my fine post on DU anymore
heh
I like debate not flame wars and football team politics.
debate? DU does not tolerate any dissent whatsoever, there can be no debate
We probably disagree on everything. That is OK, the one thing America still has going for it, is for now we can still disagree with each other.
Not if DUers were running the country
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Didn't take long for Godwin's Law to go into effect, did it??
I find the left absolutely hypocritical. Only a few years ago, "Dissent is patriotic" was their mantra and in the present day, it's the left trying to stifle free speech.
BTW, Jake, a shotgun is OK for home defense IF the intruder is within a few yards. A handgun is good up to 75 yards (if one is proficient) and a rifle is good for 500-600 yards easily. Here in Texas, we are allowed to not only protect our home, but also our property and our neighbor's property (if asked). Why limit one's self to only one style of gun. The intention of the 2nd Amendment was for the people to have the same type of arms that any military would have as the PEOPLE ARE the "Militia".
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Barack Obama is many things. He really isn't a socialist. Either is Geithner, Bernake, or any of the other people he has appointed. You could make the fascist argument pretty well. The mandated insurance provision is quite a remarkable provision in the legislation in testing federal powers.
Yet everything they are doing is Socialist in nature and deed. Ok if calling them Socialist makes you uncomfortable...how about Statist?
As for cowardice. I'm talking to you right now, because unless you personally wish to harm me or my family, you really are not an enemy.
But according to you what you are doing is against human nature. Your words. As for harming anyone...you seem to have been the only one lately to make thise kind of threats...from the safety of your keyboard I might add.
I enjoyed posting on DU. One of the unwritten rules there is you don't stop by here and say hello.
So much for supporting free speech huh?
FreeRepublic bans people as much as DU does. Jim runs a pretty type message ship over there. I have no problem with it. FreeRepublic is the republican side of the internet echo chamber.
Riiiiight. That's why all the cult followers of Ron Paul...the Limbaugh/Hannity/Levin bashers are allowed to stay...because they are just an echo chamber of the GOP.
:whatever:
If they were that much of an echo chamber then I'd have been banned a long time ago for more than one offense.
Best piece of advice my father ever gave me, is if a person is breathing they are a hypocrite on something. He included himself in that equation.
I pity you if that is the BEST piece of advice you ever got from him.
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Didn't take long for Godwin's Law to go into effect, did it??
That and a "Do as I say NOT as I do" mentality is all the left has.
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all and all, pretty well. Of course there are set backs, like when we elected a socialst apologising defeatist as president. But reality seems to be setting in, even with him...although it takes 72 hours to figure out what he needs to say. Do you think it takes him that long to learn his lines, or does he just sit and wonder what he should do for three days.
Funny you mention Hitler and Stalin, since they we both our enemy- our bombs on the bunker, and our troops in the Fulda Gap...including me, stopped the second one- or at least the last of his line.
Or, are you calling me a Nazi or a Soviet Communist?
I'm not calling you anything. However, I question the politics of one who wishes to kill his fellow citizens over political disagreements. Which is what both those men did.
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As far as the two political parties are concerned. They are both corrupt, and neither of us are going to get what we want. I hope the past 8 years taught you that as the past 1 year has taught me that. That being said, the Tea Party movement is nothing more than an arm of the GOP that will be quickly co-opted if they ever returned to power in the interest of politicians making money.
The TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party movement is not an arm of the GOP and wants little or nothing to do with the Republican establishment. The TEA Party were as much opposed to the idiots running the GOP as they were to Obama (aka Lord eVader). Go back and look at some of those signs again. The GOPers tried to co-opt the TEA Party movement but they have failed miserably.
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For the record, play nice and you won't be banned. We try to run a fair "ship". Typically, except for spammers, we like to reach a consensus before banning people. There have been a few exceptions to that "rule", but very few.
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I'm not calling you anything. However, I question the politics of one who wishes to kill his fellow citizens over political disagreements. Which is what both those men did.
Some of us have sworn to "protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America". Whatever it takes........
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That being said, the Tea Party movement is nothing more than an arm of the GOP that will be quickly co-opted if they ever returned to power in the interest of politicians making money.
That's quite hilarious coming from someone who supports a party largely funded by George Sorros and all of his little puppet groups.
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I'm not calling you anything. However, I question the politics of one who wishes to kill his fellow citizens over political disagreements. Which is what both those men did.
So we shouldn't have stepped in to defend Europe?
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The fact that I should be aware that all people are fallible and to analyze actions not words is in fact the best piece of advice my father ever gave me.
Like I said, no claim of perfection. Been wrong many times in my life, been right many times as well.
I embrace my own humanity. It was God given, and my mistakes in life are the greatest teachers. I never really learn as much by doing something right.
Just stopping by for a little amusement. I always wondered how people would react if I stopped by to say hello.
I wish you all a good day and a prosperous 2010, personally, not politically speaking
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For the most part, I'd like to believe, that we both want what is best for all the people in this country and for this country as a whole. We just disagree with the way to get there
No, the far left does not want what is best for the people of this country. They want to kill off the vast majority of us apparently and live in a stoneage society where only those superiors have private jets and limo's and dictate every single thing to the cave people down below. They want us to become North Korea. That makes them enemies of anyone who is civilized.
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So we shouldn't have stepped in to defend Europe?
What does killing people you disagree with politically in your own country have to do with Europe. In a declared war there is no political disagreement. All resources of the nation are spent to defeat the party war has been declared on.
There has not been a condition of declared war in this country sine 1945.
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Jake, you are sadly ill-informed. That's the left sending out their propaganda. The TEA party is comprised of Liberals, Independents and Republicans. It's not limited to any particular political party, but is an all inclusive group that has grown tired of wasteful and wanton Government Spending and trying to limit or reduce the National debt.
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What does killing people you disagree with politically in your own country have to do with Europe. In a declared war there is no political disagreement. All resources of the nation are spent to defeat the party war has been declared on.
There has not been a condition of declared war in this country sine 1945.
If you all were willing to leave quietly, it wouldn't be necessary.
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What does killing people you disagree with politically in your own country have to do with Europe.
You mentioned Hitler and Stalin. I was trying to gauge what and when you think it's justifiable to use military force against an enemy.
In a declared war there is no political disagreement. All resources of the nation are spent to defeat the party war has been declared on.
Right...that's why there's been so much harmony and unison over the last 8 years.
There has not been a condition of declared war in this country sine 1945.
And our enemies...especially now have taken advantage of that.
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Barack Obama is many things. He really isn't a socialist. Either is Geithner, Bernake, or any of the other people he has appointed. You could make the fascist argument pretty well.
FreeRepublic is the republican side of the internet echo chamber.
Free Republic is the conservative side of the internet "echo" chamber. Especially since all they do is read and discuss leftist media news reports all day long, so they are getting the other side at least. FR stood against Bush, you might recall, on several big issues. FR today stands against the GOP establishment to the likes of Michael Steele and others.
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Jake, you are sadly ill-informed. That's the left sending out their propaganda. The TEA party is comprised of Liberals, Independents and Republicans. It's not limited to any particular political party, but is an all inclusive group that has grown tired of wasteful and wanton Government Spending and trying to limit or reduce the National debt.
And I might add...despite what White Liberal bigots like Rachel Maddow...Chris Matthews and others would tell you...the TEA Party movement is not a "whites only" movement either.
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And I might add...despite what White Liberal bigots like Rachel Maddow...Chris Matthews and others would tell you...the TEA Party movement is not a "whites only" movement either.
Oh hell yeah. I should have mentioned that, Sarge!!
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Jake, you are sadly ill-informed. That's the left sending out their propaganda. The TEA party is comprised of Liberals, Independents and Republicans. It's not limited to any particular political party, but is an all inclusive group that has grown tired of wasteful and wanton Government Spending and trying to limit or reduce the National debt.
I'm tired of it as well, I just view the root cause of the problem to be different than you do.
My view is the root cause is money in politics. When I can induce a public official to make a decision based on a campaign contribution or an offer of a job after they are no longer a public official, well budgets are going to continue to be wasteful no matter which political party is put in charge.
Both political parties are engaged in a patronage system and therefore, what is in the best interest of citizens will always be secondary to what is in the best interest of donors.
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The Allentown dude primitive takes Skins's island much much too seriously, I think.
That goes without saying.
When the primitives leave, they run to different sites. In 2003, it was the Deaniac peopleforchange site. There's a progressiveindependent site, there's Big Jerr's site, and there's been a few others inbetween. It seems many of the former TS'd primitives lately are congregating at a site called oldelmtree, that is until the next site comes along for them to run.
But regardless of where they go, they all longingly look back to being on Skin's island wishing they were still there. And they all would be, if only everyone had realized how brilliant they were. But alas, those left behind are there, and they no longer have the opportunity they should have taken at the time to fawn over these former primitives most excellent postings and topics.
(Sigh)
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So...ATJ...how does it feel to experience real free speech debate and not just the lip service that DU gives to it?
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I'm tired of it as well, I just view the root cause of the problem to be different than you do.
My view is the root cause is money in politics. When I can induce a public official to make a decision based on a campaign contribution or an offer of a job after they are no longer a public official, well budgets are going to continue to be wasteful no matter which political party is put in charge.
Both political parties are engaged in a patronage system and therefore, what is in the best interest of citizens will always be secondary to what is in the best interest of donors.
Well, we agree on something.
So, without the Nebraska bribe, no Obamacare....that's OK with you?
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I'm tired of it as well, I just view the root cause of the problem to be different than you do.
My view is the root cause is money in politics. When I can induce a public official to make a decision based on a campaign contribution or an offer of a job after they are no longer a public official, well budgets are going to continue to be wasteful no matter which political party is put in charge.
Both political parties are engaged in a patronage system and therefore, what is in the best interest of citizens will always be secondary to what is in the best interest of donors.
And I think that you will find little disagreement with that statement, Jake, at least here.
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I'm tired of it as well, I just view the root cause of the problem to be different than you do.
My view is the root cause is money in politics. When I can induce a public official to make a decision based on a campaign contribution or an offer of a job after they are no longer a public official, well budgets are going to continue to be wasteful no matter which political party is put in charge.
Both political parties are engaged in a patronage system and therefore, what is in the best interest of citizens will always be secondary to what is in the best interest of donors.
So I'll ask you the same thing I ask the 100%'ers on the right....what's the solution?
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I'm tired of it as well, I just view the root cause of the problem to be different than you do.
My view is the root cause is money in politics.
Dude. The problem is these people are trying to buy votes with other peoples money. Has little to nothing to do with who donated to them, that wouldn't change the "bring home the bacon" mentality.
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If politics is corrupt and it's no different on either side and they're all in it for themselves...why did you vote for the man that is the epitome of everything you claim to despise?
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Oh wow.
Hey dude, what's in the building now, in downtown Allentown, where Hess's used to be?
That was my favorite department store.
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And I think that you will find little disagreement with that statement, Jake, at least here.
I think if you guys stopped shouting at me, you'd find, that we disagree on things, but there are thing that there is common ground on.
However my attitude is not one of you are my enemy.
I don't hate capitalism. I'm not a radical socialist person who believes that we can create a heaven on earth if only we do a few things.
I don't hate government either. What I hate is bad government, encouraging people to do bad things. You and I aren't doing that. Our elected representatives from both parties are doing that, and they are using labels to divide us so that we don't pay attention to what they are doing.
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Shouting is using all caps, we're not shouting. We're asking you questions, we don't often get to meet a genuine DU moonbat.
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Oh wow.
Hey dude, what's in the building now, in downtown Allentown, where Hess's used to be?
That was my favorite department store.
I miss it as well, though they knocked it down when I was 15. It is PP&L plaza now. Kind of lame replacement but nobody wants to go down town.
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If politics is corrupt and it's no different on either side and they're all in it for themselves...why did you vote for the man that is the epitome of everything you claim to despise?
They all believed Dear Leader would be different. He went out, talked populism like they do every 2 years, the left ate it up, and they mindlessly pulled the lever just like they do every 2 years.
Lather.
Rinse.
Repeat.
They'll do it again this year. Every single one of the primitives who are saying they won't vote Dem because they've been lied to will vote Dem come November. These are not individuals who can operate outside what they're told to do.
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Dude. The problem is these people are trying to buy votes with other peoples money. Has little to nothing to do with who donated to them, that wouldn't change the "bring home the bacon" mentality.
Leaving out the government's ability to negotiate prices for drugs in Medicare Part D was a decision to buy votes?
From who? Senior Citizens...you'd think you would cut out the donut hole and get the cheapest drugs you could if that was the case?
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I don't hate government either. What I hate is bad government, encouraging people to do bad things. You and I aren't doing that. Our elected representatives from both parties are doing that, and they are using labels to divide us so that we don't pay attention to what they are doing.
That sounds like a TEA Party attitude to me right there.
Government does what governments do, they grow, government is the very definition of greedy and power hungry. That is the nature of government. Now that government has thrown out the Constitution and Bill of Rights, anything goes. We stood up against Bush on spending and amnesty and other things and we will stand against those things and others no matter who tries them.
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I think if you guys stopped shouting at me, you'd find, that we disagree on things, but there are thing that there is common ground on.
Who's shouting?
I don't hate capitalism.
Yet everything the Liberal Democrats stand for and push for in this country is completely anti-Capitalism. And the man I presume that you voted for is leading the charge.
What I hate is bad government, encouraging people to do bad things. You and I aren't doing that. Our elected representatives from both parties are doing that, and they are using labels to divide us so that we don't pay attention to what they are doing.
Sounds romantic outside reality.
However...what is dividing people is political philosophy. And the propaganda driven by a complacent media that is willing to whore itself out for one side over the other.
You...like the rest of the Liberals at your old home have been fed this for so long it's rooted in your DNA.
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I miss it as well, though they knocked it down when I was 15. It is PP&L plaza now. Kind of lame replacement but nobody wants to go down town.
Oh man.
The PP&L skyscraper was a work of art; I hope that's still there.
Did Hess's turn into a mall franchise now, or just evaporate?
I spent my first night in Allentown in an old hotel east of Hess's.
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That sounds like a TEA Party attitude to me right there.
Government does what governments do, they grow, government is the very definition of greedy and power hungry. That is the nature of government. Now that government has thrown out the Constitution and Bill of Rights, anything goes. We stood up against Bush on spending and amnesty and other things and we will stand against those things and others no matter who tries them.
I agree the H1-b1 visas is an amazing thing. When people are struggling to find a job you allow immigration and people to take knowledge to compete with you.
On illegal immigration, I've always said if you fined the businesses for hiring people, the illegals would have no jobs and no reason to come.
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I agree the H1-b1 visas is an amazing thing. When people are struggling to find a job you allow immigration and people to take knowledge to compete with you.
On illegal immigration, I've always said if you fined the businesses for hiring people, the illegals would have no jobs and no reason to come.
Hmmm, sounds more like the way us "Conservatives" think........
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That explains why he's leaving the DUmp.
They'll crucify you for views like that over there.
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Oh man.
The PP&L skyscraper was a work of art; I hope that's still there.
Did Hess's turn into a mall franchise now, or just evaporate?
I spent my first night in Allentown in an old hotel east of Hess's.
PP&L is still there. It is still a sense of pride in the community. Hess's went out of business. They couldn't compete with the larger retailers.
If it is the Holiday Inn you stayed at, it is still there and nice. The Hotel Traylor is a haven for crack heads.
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On illegal immigration, I've always said if you fined the businesses for hiring people, the illegals would have no jobs and no reason to come.
Yet the party you support views them as potential new voters already accustomed to receiving everything they need from the public dole.
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PP&L is still there. It is still a sense of pride in the community. Hess's went out of business. They couldn't compete with the larger retailers.
If it is the Holiday Inn you stayed at, it is still there and nice. The Hotel Traylor is a haven for crack heads.
It was the Hotel Traylor; it was run down at the time, but not yet utterly decrepit.
They had a decent restaurant there.
I was new; I didn't know excresence about Allentown when I ended up there; it was an entirely new world to me, nothing known about it.
I ended up living near downtown, on 13th Street, although I worked out near Fogelsville.
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Yet the party you support views them as potential new voters already accustomed to receiving everything they need from the public dole.
and the GOP views them as cheap labor. Neither party wants to do anything about people coming to the country illegally.
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I'm not calling you anything. However, I question the politics of one who wishes to kill his fellow citizens over political disagreements. Which is what both those men did.
no, you alluded to the point that since I think we should kill our enemies I and people who think like me are akin to Hitler or Stalin. A typical, but weak, attack the left uses for just about everything.
How do I know who our enemies are? First, they are the ones who attack us- so it's simple in a way. Second, you are the one calling the other side of the political isle the enemy, or were you just joking around by saying that you came here to talk with the enemy.
People who support our enemies, who your own B Obama now say are islamic extremeists, many of whom post on DU, are our enemies, however- the current rules of engagement don't allow us to go after them.
yet.
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and the GOP views them as cheap labor. Neither party wants to do anything about people coming to the country illegally.
and this is EXACTLY why I left the GOP back in 2004, along with several other reasons
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and the GOP views them as cheap labor.
Yeah...sure we do.
Stereotype much?
Neither party wants to do anything about people coming to the country illegally.
Riiight. That's why Republicans stood up and made calls and attended rallies AGAINST the immigration crap that former PResident Bush was trying to shove down our throats.
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It was the Hotel Traylor; it was run down at the time, but not yet utterly decrepit.
They had a decent restaurant there.
I was new; I didn't know excresence about Allentown when I ended up there; it was an entirely new world to me, nothing known about it.
I ended up living near downtown, on 13th Street, although I worked out near Fogelsville.
I live out by Dorney Park. They are doing a decent job of restoring 13th street right now. Calling it historic Allentown.
I'm getting hit with a lot of questions and accusations so it is a little overwhelming trying to respond to everyone.
I'm not your cartoon version of a liberal. No candidate supports my belief system so I'm stuck making difficult choices each election cycle. Like I said, both political parties like things the way they are. You can become a millionaire as a public servant in either one.
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and the GOP views them as cheap labor. Neither party wants to do anything about people coming to the country illegally.
In that case, both sides have the "cheap labor" view because Clinton had 8 years to change it and didn't.
One party wants to let them vote when they get here. That's much, much worse. One of the main reason Rome went bye-bye was their lax immigration policies.
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Don't worry about the barrage of questions, dude, sir.
It's so rarely that we get visitors, and so we tend to pile on.
Just kick off the shoes, put up the feet, relax, and get mellow.
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Yeah...sure we do.
Stereotype much?
Riiight. That's why Republicans stood up and made calls and attended rallies AGAINST the immigration crap that former PResident Bush was trying to shove down our throats.
Have you seen some of my postings on the President at DU. I think I'm making as much noise over certain issues that you are on issues you disagreed with your party leadership on.
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and the GOP views them as cheap labor. Neither party wants to do anything about people coming to the country illegally.
The GOP establishment might. Not the regular GOP voters.
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Have you seen some of my postings on the President at DU.
Nope I haven't. Perhaps you could bring them over here for us.
I'd go over there and look for myself...but there are people at DU that throw darts at my picture and screen name.
I think I'm making as much noise over certain issues that you are on issues you disagreed with your party leadership on.
And you voted for whom again?
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The GOP establishment might. Not the regular GOP voters.
BINGO!!!
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Nope I haven't. Perhaps you could bring them over here for us.
I'd go over there and look for myself...but there are people at DU that throw darts at my picture and screen name.
And you voted for whom again?
Uh, the Allentown dude's right, Sarge.
He's criticized il Duce Bo a lot over on Skins's island.
Trust me.
He's no Frenchie cat primitive.
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Uh, the Allentown dude's right, Sarge.
He's criticized il Duce Bo a lot over on Skins's island.
Trust me.
He's no Frenchie cat primitive.
I'll believe it when I see it frank.
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Don't worry about the barrage of questions, dude, sir.
It's so rarely that we get visitors, and so we tend to pile on.
Just kick off the shoes, put up the feet, relax, and get mellow.
Thank you, a little overwhelming. I don't like the democratic party, I don't like the republican party that much more and believe it or not, I'm a big fan of the founding fathers...except Hamilton.
We are generally faced with two choice every election cycle. The culture in this country is absolutely horrible at this present time.
My grandfather on my paternal side was a Republican Mayor of Hamburg Pennsylvania. My grandfather on my maternal side was a democratic party chairman.
Neither men would be happy with what their country has turned into.
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Thank you, a little overwhelming. I don't like the democratic party, I don't like the republican party that much more and believe it or not, I'm a big fan of the founding fathers...except Hamilton.
I tend to think that Jefferson was one of the best. Too bad that too many folks read too much into what he has written.
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I'll believe it when I see it frank.
I'm sure there's some campfires here from Skins's island, where the Allentown dude said some not-enthusiastic things about il Duce Bo, and got piled on by the 0bamaite primitives.
Sure he voted for Benito, but it looks as if with about as much enthusiasm as we voted for McCain.
I have to run out in this -10 weather to town, to grab some chow and some cigarettes; when I come back, Sarge, I'll link those threads.
Whatever the Allentown dude is, if nothing else, he's no 0bamaite, any more than we would've been McCainites.
Back in a bit.
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I'll believe it when I see it frank.
My rules limiting free speech are in the reminder. I don't think they are unreasonable, however if you don't like them, don't post.
http://oldelmtree.com/discussion/index.php/topic,5298.0/topicseen.html
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Uh, the Allentown dude's right, Sarge.
He's criticized il Duce Bo a lot over on Skins's island.
Trust me.
He's no Frenchie cat primitive.
The problem is not the primitives on Skin's island who might on occasion say something critical. The problem with Skin's island is that it's a hate site and the primitives are hatemongers. Other than providing an arena for hatemongers to discuss their level of hatred towards all things good and descent, and thereby providing us with entertainment value, the island and the primtives aren't worth anything.
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I'm sure there's some campfires here from Skins's island, where the Allentown dude said some not-enthusiastic things about il Duce Bo, and got piled on by the 0bamaite primitives.
Sure he voted for Benito, but it looks as if with about as much enthusiasm as we voted for McCain.
I have to run out in this -10 weather to town, to grab some chow and some cigarettes; when I come back, Sarge, I'll link those threads.
Whatever the Allentown dude is, if nothing else, he's no 0bamaite, any more than we would've been McCainites.
Back in a bit.
I listen to Alex Jones, Max Keiser, am a subscriber to Gerald Celente, and go to the Market Ticker and Zero Hedge every day.
The only reason why I vote democratic is I'm Pro-Choice and don't have a problem with gay people getting married, I view marriage as far as the state is concerned as an economic partnership. If a church refuses to recognize the marriage that is their right under the fact we have freedom of religion.
Taking tax payers money and handing it to large corporations who than give politicians jobs and campaign donations is every bit as offensive to me as it is you.
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I tend to think that Jefferson was one of the best. Too bad that too many folks read too much into what he has written.
Like the Bible, everything has to be put into the context of what was going on when it was written.
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That being said, the tone on here will not change till each person takes responsibility for what they say to each other. Snark is one thing, but I have been seeing an increase in very personal, and very hateful attacks on members the past few weeks that are not based on politics. Each side likes to play the victim but each side has their own worst offenders they do not take responsibility for.
I will be carrying big wood for the next week upon hearing the gravity of your grief.
DUmmys eating their young, wallowing in their self-imposed angst and despair yet STILL failing to recognize the very source of their pathetic lives:
LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER AND LIBERALS ARE CLINICALLY INSANE.
GOBAMMA!!!!
Snark et al...
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The only reason why I vote democratic is I'm Pro-Choice and don't have a problem with gay people getting married, I view marriage as far as the state is concerned as an economic partnership. If a church refuses to recognize the marriage that is their right under the fact we have freedom of religion.
Taking tax payers money and handing it to large corporations who than give politicians jobs and campaign donations is every bit as offensive to me as it is you.
Alex Jones is a loon.
Abortion is murder. It ain't a dog or dolphin being killed, then libs would have a fit. Viewing marriage as an economic partnership is stupid and narrow-minded. Especially when there is a tax marriage penalty that makes it uneconomical to be married. Marriage is a word with a definition and a meaning and a cultural foundation, this is what the far left wishes to destroy, the very idea and foundation of family, the very foundation of civilization. and yes, bastardize the English language while doing it.
Government should not ever give money to corporations or businesses or non-profit groups. Government should not fund NPR, PBS, Planned Parenthood or anything else other than the very basic functions of Constitutional government.
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I will be carrying big wood for the next week upon hearing the gravity of your grief.
DUmmys eating their young, wallowing in their self-imposed angst and despair yet STILL failing to recognize the very source of their pathetic lives:
LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER AND LIBERALS ARE CLINICALLY INSANE.
Oh liberals say the same thing about conservatives. I might disagree with you on something. I'm not going to call you mentally ill.
Football team mentality, it is what both the politicians in both parties count on to justify the fact they are doing things that are not in the national interest and to line their pockets.
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Alex Jones is a loon.
Abortion is murder. It ain't a dog or dolphin being killed, then libs would have a fit. Viewing marriage as an economic partnership is stupid and narrow-minded. Especially when there is a tax marriage penalty that makes it uneconomical to be married. Marriage is a word with a definition and a meaning and a cultural foundation, this is what the far left wishes to destroy, the very idea and foundation of family, the very foundation of civilization. and yes, bastardize the English language while doing it.
Government should not ever give money to corporations or businesses or non-profit groups. Government should not fund NPR, PBS, Planned Parenthood or anything else other than the very basic functions of Constitutional government.
Define traditional marriage. Marriage is an economic partnership. Before that it was a property transaction.
You are going to hate me on abortion. Fine by that. We will be arguing using personal beliefs on when life begins not logic so it is not an argument worth having.
Separation of church and state.
The same thing can be said about Military contracts (I don't hate the Military) before WWII we had a history of disarming after conflicts.
Jefferson did not like two things. Standing armies and government sponsored banks. Looks like we got both right now.
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Alex Jones is a loon.
Abortion is murder. It ain't a dog or dolphin being killed, then libs would have a fit. Viewing marriage as an economic partnership is stupid and narrow-minded. Especially when there is a tax marriage penalty that makes it uneconomical to be married. Marriage is a word with a definition and a meaning and a cultural foundation, this is what the far left wishes to destroy, the very idea and foundation of family, the very foundation of civilization. and yes, bastardize the English language while doing it.
Government should not ever give money to corporations or businesses or non-profit groups. Government should not fund NPR, PBS, Planned Parenthood or anything else other than the very basic functions of Constitutional government.
Alex Jones is crazy on somethings, but the sad thing about Alex is he gets a few things very right. I don't think there are FEMA death camps, but I do think the politicians are a lot closer to each other than they put on in front of cameras.
Why else would Bob Dole recruit Tom Daschle for a lobbying firm job.
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Football team mentality, it is what both the politicians in both parties count on to justify the fact they are doing things that are not in the national interest and to line their pockets.
When DUers cheer Paul Watson, eco-terrorist, who wants to de-populate the Earth and calls humanity a disease, then they are being enemies of civilized people.
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Smells like a liberal-tarian in here.
Nonetheless, he's acquitted himself far more congenially than any Ronulan that ever had the misfortune to wander into our midst.
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Separation of church and state.
Jefferson did not like two things. Standing armies and government sponsored banks. Looks like we got both right now.
I don't want government to be involved with, funding or restricting religion at all. Thats what "separation" means, it does not mean religious people should be punished, restricted, limited or forced to do anything by the government.
I am with Jefferson on standing armies and banks.
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Smells like a liberal-tarian in here.
Nonetheless, he's acquitted himself far more congenially than any Ronulan that ever had the misfortune to wander into our midst.
There are things government does, I think are good. That being said, making millionaires out of elected officials and political appointees was not something the Founders intended.
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and the GOP views them as cheap labor. Neither party wants to do anything about people coming to the country illegally.
Wow...something said by a DUer that I tend to agree with. :o
Save me someone!
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Nonetheless, he's acquitted himself far more congenially than any Ronulan that ever had the misfortune to wander into our midst.
Uh huh.
The Allentown dude's no Pedro Picasso.
No comparison.
And a definite improvement, a big improvement, over the nocturnally foul one.
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Oh liberals say the same thing about conservatives. I might disagree with you on something. I'm not going to call you mentally ill.
Football team mentality, it is what both the politicians in both parties count on to justify the fact they are doing things that are not in the national interest and to line their pockets.
**** you!
**** you, your mother, and your siblings. You are a sack of dishonest lying shit and I do not buy the moderated bullshit you are spewing here. Your history of DUmp concentric posts prove that. You and your brethren on the left, including 90% of the democrat party and 75% of the little Eichmanns that continue electing them into office are the NUMBER ONE enemy of this nation.
I have been reading your leftist shitbag America hating socialist "BUSH IS HITLER" drivel for several years now.
You ardently defend the "rights" of a woman to murder her unborn child yet blow your top if someone pisses in a lake or swats a fly in a forest. That is insanity.
You and your DUmp comrades *ARE* the very worst the human race has to offer. Read the posts there: the majority of you pathetic parasite ****s are on welfare, psychotropic drugs, sucks off the taxpayer tit in many ways, unemployed, fags, trannys, furrys, 'pedophile Man-Boy-Love members', with Underground Panther as your mascot. You repeatedly villify America, conservatives, Christians, and Republicans JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR POLITICS!
**** you, **** your mother, **** your siblings.
You and your cock-sucking liberal Code Pink commies represent everything wrong with America.
I do not buy your ****tard attempts at intellectualizing and defending your REAL dysfunctional belief set as you try to sway those here that you really do have a Manhattanesq cosmopolitan view of the world.
All you are doing here is trying to assuage your imaginary fairness or normalcy that never is or was a part of you. Your temporary (lie) exit from the DUmp is only because your ass is being ridiculed here and your REAL persona is being archived in the Internet for an eternity. You must be worried about further (ahem) employment and what a background check will find.
**** you and the horse you rode in on.
YOU and your leftist lik the the enemy of America and the Constitution DEMANDS that if *I* are to defend the Constitution and thus the United States of America, I MUST eliminate you.
I have zero problem with stating that here. I will not dance around the fact that this nation is going down deep and quick all at the hands of democrats, socialists, and the commie America hating college teachers, primitive protesters, Chicago political thugs, union EMPLOYEE thugs, old 60's hippies, Marxist Ayers followers, and EVERY cocksucking-fag-dyke-furry-psycho-unemployed-bong sucking-'purple haired Underground Panther breast removing tranny' pricks at the Dump.
Good God - the ****ing freak Underground Panther had her BREASTS REMOVED BECAUSE SHE THINKS SHE IS A MALE!!
Tell me that is NOT insanity. She should be caged, put down, and her brain sliced to find out how to help other humans avoid her insanity. The reality of it all is she/it/her/him/it again/pet/animal/tranny/furry is par for the course for a DUmp member.
**** you prick!
PM me and I will fly ANYWHERE to take your ass to task.
Intellectualize that ****head!
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Btw...welcome to CC Jake.
We do discuss,we can get cranky but we do our best to try to actually think about things and disagreements are attempted to be debated civilly and thoughtfully even though I fail at that too.
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Couldn`t ask for better timing then that. :rotf:
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I don't want government to be involved with, funding or restricting religion at all. Thats what "separation" means, it does not mean religious people should be punished, restricted, limited or forced to do anything by the government.
I am with Jefferson on standing armies and banks.
Fully agree, and that is where I stand. People who don't have a particular faith should not be compelled either it entirely negates the free will idea of Christianity.
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Fully agree, and that is where I stand. People who don't have a particular faith should not be compelled either it entirely negates the free will idea of Christianity.
If not for the government stealing from the working middle class and tit-feeding you, your life would have been gone long ago.
If you knew anything about Christianity or believed even 1% of it, you would NEVER post on the DUmp nor be a member of it in the first place.
You don't fool me, ****head tool of Satan.
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Btw...welcome to CC Jake.
We do discuss,we can get cranky but we do our best to try to actually think about things and disagreements are attempted to be debated civilly and thoughtfully even though I fail at that too.
The "objective" here is, since the Allentown dude left Skins's island (and hence loses his designation as a primitive), is a civil exchange of ideas--mostly because such opportunities come along so rarely.
The late Tangerine LaBamba being an all-too-short gift.
Well, maybe a long-term civil exchange of ideas is too much to hope for--it can, however, happen--in which case one goes to the second "objective," that of making someone here comfortable enough that he comes over here to see the primitives through our eyes.
It's all a plus, whatever one gets.
I'm asking the Allentown dude primitive, if he wants, and is comfortable with it, to "personal message" me his blog site.
It's all good, whatever one gets, whether a lot or a little.
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**** you!
**** you, your mother, and your siblings. You are a sack of dishonest lying shit and I do not buy the moderated bullshit you are spewing here. Your history of DUmp concentric posts prove that. You and your brethren on the left, including 90% of the democrat party and 75% of the little Eichmanns that continue electing them into office are the NUMBER ONE enemy of this nation.
I have been reading your leftist shitbag America hating socialist "BUSH IS HITLER" drivel for several years now.
You ardently defend the "rights" of a woman to murder her unborn child yet blow your top if someone pisses in a lake or swats a fly in a forest. That is insanity.
You and your DUmp comrades *ARE* the very worst the human race has to offer. Read the posts there: the majority of you pathetic parasite ****s are on welfare, psychotropic drugs, sucks off the taxpayer tit in many ways, unemployed, fags, trannys, furrys, 'pedophile Man-Boy-Love members', with Underground Panther as your mascot. You repeatedly villify America, conservatives, Christians, and Republicans JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR POLITICS!
**** you, **** your mother, **** your siblings.
You and your cock-sucking liberal Code Pink commies represent everything wrong with America.
I do not buy your ****tard attempts at intellectualizing and defending your REAL dysfunctional belief set as you try to sway those here that you really do have a Manhattanesq cosmopolitan view of the world.
All you are doing here is trying to assuage your imaginary fairness or normalcy that never is or was a part of you. Your temporary (lie) exit from the DUmp is only because your ass is being ridiculed here and your REAL persona is being archived in the Internet for an eternity. You must be worried about further (ahem) employment and what a background check will find.
**** you and the horse you rode in on.
YOU and your leftist lik the the enemy of America and the Constitution DEMANDS that if *I* are to defend the Constitution and thus the United States of America, I MUST eliminate you.
I have zero problem with stating that here. I will not dance around the fact that this nation is going down deep and quick all at the hands of democrats, socialists, and the commie America hating college teachers, primitive protesters, Chicago political thugs, union EMPLOYEE thugs, old 60's hippies, Marxist Ayers followers, and EVERY cocksucking-fag-dyke-furry-psycho-unemployed-bong sucking-'purple haired Underground Panther breast removing tranny' pricks oat the Dump.
**** you prick!
PM me and I will fly ANYWHERE to take your ass to task.
Intellectualize that ****head!
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Wow!
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If not for the government stealing from the working middle class and tit-feeding you, your life would have been gone long ago.
If you knew anything about Christianity or believed even 1% of it, you would NEVER post on the DUmp nor be a member of it in the first place.
You don't fool me, ****head tool of Satan.
I made a pretty good living as an auditor till I got hit with a layoff in June. Paid lots of taxes too.
You are trying to sell me you are a follower of Jesus by saying you want to end my existence because of a political disagreement.
That love and pray for your enemies thing went way over your head.
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Couldn`t ask for better timing then that. :rotf:
Better luck next time, Carl. :lmao:
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Wow!
Exactly - sucks to find you cannot defend nor "intellectualize" yourself out of your lies with me.
I'm still waiting ****head. I do not dance around the issues and #1 with me - gag your liberal asses on the political correctness you hide your hate behind.
Oh yea, **** the heart - do this nation a favor and kill yourself.
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suddenly the thread goes silent.....
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suddenly the thread goes silent.....
Well, it's kind of hard to top that (either way), PG, sir.
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Jake,
Forgive the pile-on but...
...having watched the DUmp lo these many years I see that the average liberal is as unhappy with politicians, the backroom deals, the corruption etc etc etc that is generally the foundational dissatisfaction of conservatives.
However, where a conservative would place government in a box with a sign that says "break glass in case of emergency" and then use bullet-proof glass it seems the reflex among liberals is MORE government.
Gov't run schools are screwed up? Let's give more money and power to the government.
Gov't run healthcare is going broke? Maybe we should just give the gov't more money.
Gov't subsidized mortgages defaulting in record rates? Let's have the gov't inspect itself and reset its own rules.
As a conservative I don't trust these bastards one iota. Even the best of them are compromised by the simple nature of the beast.
I'm not against gov't run programs but I think IF--and that is a mighty big if--they are enacted they should be confined to the state level. 50 laboratories can decide what best works for them, are less prone to the machinations of overly centralized power and quicker to change in the event of error than a federal program that requires a national mandate.
Did you ever wonder why when conservatives look at the state healthcare programs such as Massachusetts we go, "LOL" but when you try to make it national we lose our minds with rage? Here are a bunch of lobbyist fellating poll-dancers seeking to sink their claws into 1/6 of the economy so that ll Americans have to bow to the politicians if they want to be able to take their children to a doctor. If this thing passes and is as corporation poisoned as reports make it out to be a vote against the pols is a vote against your own health benefits.
Maybe I'm wrong but liberals seem much more preoccupied to ask "What's in it for me?" whereas conservatives demand to know, "Is this worth my freedom?"
BTW - for the record: no conservative endorses subsidizing any corporation. Tax cuts yes (read about the Laffer curve) but subsidies are as anathema to the free market as wage and price controls. I notice this fallacy a lot on DU (maybe not you, but on DU...maybe if you ever return you can speak of your time among the tea-partiers).
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suddenly the thread goes silent.....
We all have reasons, many of them valid, for disliking Democrats, liberals, and primitives, but I've always suspected my loathing is based upon personal experience with such people, not ideology.
It's very hard to like someone who insists one is "deprived" and needs big government to make up the deficits in one's life.
I suspect my own credentials for loathing the primitives on Skins's island are pretty sterling, even purer than BadCat's or GOBUCKS'.
But here we have someone who comes over here with no pretensions, no big ideas about deception (such as Pedro Picasso's stupid stunts), no holier-than-thouness (such as with the nocturnally foul one); someone who identifies exactly who and what he is.
Honesty from the other side is rare, and so one must encourage it.
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I've made the decision to start a daily blog which will focus on highlights of the economic news, legislation in congress and my opinion of it and campaign finance issues.
I'm sure the world awaits with bated breath.
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I agree with Snugs and frank to a great degree. But it's hard to explain why someone who has engulfed themselves in hatred for 8 years can suddenly say they've woken up. From their POV, they view Clinton as the best Republican president, say the Dems rolled everytime Bush43 wanted something, and suddenly they had some notion that Dear Leader was going to be different? Like I said, they listen to the populist speeches, the same one's they've heard for the last 40 years, and then actually believe these Dem pols.
I'm more than willing to listen, but at some point they need to explain their sins, especially hanging out at a site like DU. Just the stuff they've said about Gov. Palin when they personally attacked her daughter and grandchild should have been enough for any descent person to say "I'm a liberal, but this is beyond the pale. Bye."
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We all have reasons, many of them valid, for disliking Democrats, liberals, and primitives, but I've always suspected my loathing is based upon personal experience with such people, not ideology.
It's very hard to like someone who insists one is "deprived" and needs big government to make up the deficits in one's life.
I suspect my own credentials for loathing the primitives on Skins's island are pretty sterling, even purer than BadCat's or GOBUCKS'.
But here we have someone who comes over here with no pretensions, no big ideas about deception (such as Pedro Picasso's stupid stunts), no holier-than-thouness (such as with the nocturnally foul one); someone who identifies exactly who and what he is.
Honesty from the other side is rare, and so one must encourage it.
I don't need the government, the church, or business to make me a whole person. No politician is going to make me feel better about me nor is a church or a business. Rich or poor I'm going to be who I am and value what I value and when I fail to live up to those values, nothing is going to make me feel better about myself other than doing some sort of penance.
There are many tools to have an honest, prosperous, good society. Government is one, business does it's part, and private Religious institutions has its part. They are a wonderful check and balance against each other, and as an auditor, I love checks and balances. When they all merge together, you get Tyranny. Which is what the people who founded this country fought against originally and where are country has been marching for 40 years.
Anyway it was pleasant talking to all of you and I wish you a happy weekend.
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I agree with Snugs and frank to a great degree. But it's hard to explain why someone who has engulfed themselves in hatred for 8 years can suddenly say they've woken up. From their POV, they view Clinton as the best Republican president, say the Dems rolled everytime Bush43 wanted something, and suddenly they had some notion that Dear Leader was going to be different? Like I said, they listen to the populist speeches, the same one's they've heard for the last 40 years, and then actually believe these Dem pols.
I'm more than willing to listen, but at some point they need to explain their sins, especially hanging out at a site like DU. Just the stuff they've said about Gov. Palin when they personally attacked her daughter and grandchild should have been enough for any descent person to say "I'm a liberal, but this is beyond the pale. Bye."
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Someone on here just urged me to kill myself. There is plenty of crazy going around. I think asking everyone to atone for their past "sins" some of which you are projecting onto people is a little silly at this point. I'm not a member of the Obama administration anymore than you were a member of the Bush Administration. We get two choices every year, equally awful and sometimes we have to lie to ourselves and tell ourselves they are great.
The only way the country will move forward is when we take off our hats and start talking to each other as Americans not labels others have given for us to fight.
Mr. Jefferson and Mr. Adams could find a way to get a long. I'm sure most Americans can as well.
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Someone on here just urged me to kill myself. There is plenty of crazy going around. I think asking everyone to atone for their past "sins" some of which you are projecting onto people is a little silly at this point.
You were at a site where the majority -- not just one person -- the majority were saying the woman was using her Down's child as a prop and she was covering for it being her daughter's child. That was the mildest of all the sick stuff that was said at DU. Either you can explain your continued participation at a site that would do that or you can't. Because whether you like it or not, when the majority are over there doing it, and you hang with them, then you're as much as endorsing it.
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If not for the government stealing from the working middle class and tit-feeding you, your life would have been gone long ago.
If you knew anything about Christianity or believed even 1% of it, you would NEVER post on the DUmp nor be a member of it in the first place.
You don't fool me, ****head tool of Satan.
Stop beating around the bush and take a stand. :rotf:
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Well, it's kind of hard to top that (either way), PG, sir.
I know it - ass that I am...
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I agree with Snugs and frank to a great degree. But it's hard to explain why someone who has engulfed themselves in hatred for 8 years can suddenly say they've woken up. From their POV, they view Clinton as the best Republican president, say the Dems rolled everytime Bush43 wanted something, and suddenly they had some notion that Dear Leader was going to be different? Like I said, they listen to the populist speeches, the same one's they've heard for the last 40 years, and then actually believe these Dem pols.
I'm more than willing to listen, but at some point they need to explain their sins, especially hanging out at a site like DU. Just the stuff they've said about Gov. Palin when they personally attacked her daughter and grandchild should have been enough for any descent person to say "I'm a liberal, but this is beyond the pale. Bye."
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exactly - hence my rant...
momma don't raise no fool...
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The only way the country will move forward is when we take off our hats and start talking to each other as Americans not labels others have given for us to fight.
The only way for the country to move forward is for people to stop feeling entitled to other peoples money.
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Someone on here just urged me to kill myself. There is plenty of crazy going around. I think asking everyone to atone for their past "sins" some of which you are projecting onto people is a little silly at this point. I'm not a member of the Obama administration anymore than you were a member of the Bush Administration. We get two choices every year, equally awful and sometimes we have to lie to ourselves and tell ourselves they are great.
The only way the country will move forward is when we take off our hats and start talking to each other as Americans not labels others have given for us to fight.
Mr. Jefferson and Mr. Adams could find a way to get a long. I'm sure most Americans can as well.
Plenty of miscreants throughout human history have killed themselves for their past misdeeds.
For the FIRST time in your life, be MORE than you could ever be - put yourself in the league of Socrates.
You say you are not a member of the Obama administration and that is ONLY because the big ZERO did not appoint you to teach fag-fisting-sex to five year-old kindergartners. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=121310
While you may not wear 0bama's uniform (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/littlebrother_42/obamagun.jpg), you have espoused each and every one of his philosophical and political beliefs and actions for the past several years via your musings on the DUmp.
You cannot run scumbag and I am here to ensure that your past smothers you.
Additionally, you have ZERO factual knowledge per Jefferson and Adams and just mentioning it bastardizes the real truth of what America is and represents. Which by the way, is NOTHING you believe in. You are on the outside ****head, you are the bastard child, the freak in the basement, the animal we put down to save the flock, the enemy we kill before more unwilling innocents are murdered, the viral disease we purge to save the host, the rag head we introduce to a Predator hellfire missile before he sends his explosive laden child into the crowded town square, the American hating Nazi anti-Semitic we cage in prison for life before he murders needlessly, the epitome of liberalism we MUST destroy before innocent humans in this nation are murdered 9/11 style in the future.
Go ahead - do the Socrates and post the video on Youtube - if not for anything other than to motivate your DUmp monkey comrades to do the same.
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Define traditional marriage. Marriage is an economic partnership. Before that it was a property transaction.
Marriage is a religious institution. The Government has NO business being involved in it. As far as being homosexual, the Christian bible, the Jewish Torah and the Islamic Qur'An forbids homosexuality. Good enough for me. (That means no gay marriage)
You are going to hate me on abortion. Fine by that. We will be arguing using personal beliefs on when life begins not logic so it is not an argument worth having.
I was ambivalent towards abortion because the standard Christian Bible never stated specifically when life begins. When I read in the Epistle of Barnabas where it was stated as one of God's laws, it changed my mind. There it specifically states that "thou shalt not kill the seed of thy womb or thy children. I rethought my stance.
Separation of church and state.
IF you can show me ANYWHERE in the Constitution that there is any separation between the Church and the Government. I'll change my mind. However, you can't!! Even the first amendment states that the Government shall not establish any religion, BUT, it also states that the Government will NOT prohibit the FREE exercise thereof. This separation of church ans state comes from a letter that Jefferson wrote to some Baptist church about the wall of separation between the church and the state. It had nothing to do with the improper attitude that the Government is exhibiting towards Christianity today. IMO, the Government IS prohibiting the FREE exercise of...
The same thing can be said about Military contracts (I don't hate the Military) before WWII we had a history of disarming after conflicts.
That was in a world where it took a lot of time, effort and money to attack another nation. It was an attitude also prevalent to a world where Mutually Assured Destruction didn't exist. Once MAD came into the picture, we were forced to adapt. Furthermore, sure the US drew down after any war as we perceived ourselves as almost invulnerable due to our isolated location. The Japanese proved that idea wrong. Then, look at the Navy. They keep the seas open for free trade. Without free trade, we wouldn't have the things we do.
As far as the military contract thingie, Eisenhower warned of the Military Industrial Complex. However, one must look at what we've received through the MIC. A lot of the technology we rely on today is rooted in military technology.
Jefferson did not like two things. Standing armies and government sponsored banks. Looks like we got both right now.
As far as Government sponsored banks, it makes sense to have a single currency for our country. I don't know if you've ever served and been abroad, you haven't stated, but imagine, having 50 different exchange rates in ONE Nation?? As far as bailing out the banks, I don't think that's quite right. Government sponsored banks are a must to a small extent, but our current Government has gone too far.
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The only way for the country to move forward is for people to stop feeling entitled to other peoples money.
I LOVE General Patton. In fact, he is my #1 hero!
I love the way he talks too, Paraphrasing on how we negotiates with the enemy (the left, you, liberals, democrats) "When they are face down in the mud, my boot against the back of their neck, my .45 cocked and loaded pointed at the backs of their heads". I then say, "if you want to negotiate, now is the time".
Get it?
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Stop beating around the bush and take a stand. :rotf:
I need to come out of my cocoon! :-)
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Marriage is a religious institution. The Government has NO business being involved in it. As far as being homosexual, the Christian bible, the Jewish Torah and the Islamic Qur'An forbids homosexuality. Good enough for me.
me too.
I was ambivalent towards abortion because the standard Christian Bible never stated specifically when life begins. When I read in the Epistle of Barnabas where it was stated as one of God's laws, it changed my mind.
I never had any doubt at all on the subject.
As far as the military contract thingie, Eisenhower warned of the Military Industrial Complex. However, one must look at what we've received through the MIC. A lot of the technology we rely on today is rooted in military technology.
I think MIC means the heavily inefficient and corrupt system that encourages the use of the military to justify its continued existence.
As far as Government sponsored banks, it makes sense to have a single currency for our country.overnment has gone too far.
It makes sense to have one official currency but that should not mean that barter and trade using other means should be outlawed.
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The only way the country will move forward is when we take off our hats and start talking to each other
Yeah, that ain't gonna happen.
You can blame the DUers and the KosKiddies, along with the liberal mouthpieces such as Queef Olberman.
They've convinced me that the only good liberal is a dead one.
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I LOVE General Patton. In fact, he is my #1 hero!
I love the way he talks too, Paraphrasing on how we negotiates with the enemy (the left, you, liberals, democrats) "When they are face down in the mud, my boot against the back of their neck, my .45 cocked and loaded pointed at the backs of their heads". I then say, "if you want to negotiate, now is the time".
Get it?
Oh I get it, clearly.
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Stop beating around the bush and take a stand. :rotf:
I admit, PG and BadCat are two of my favorite posters here. There is no way you will ever have a conversation with either if them and not know exactly where they stand. Touche'.
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I need to come out of my cocoon! :-)
Yup. These pieces of shit don't like being told how people really feel. They babble on on how they want to be in touch with their feelings, but what they really want to be in touch on the party line on how to feel. That;s why they spout the same shit on every issue like a damned robot.
They are the enemy. They just refuse to admit it.
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I see that ATJ is learning the hard way that the Lib talking points that make him look like an intellectual superstar at the DUmp won't fly in the real world.
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Hmmm, sounds more like the way us "Conservatives" think........
Not quite! Conservatives want to enforce the border, and when an illegal is found, no matter how, they get their ass kicked outa my country!!!!!!!!111111
I've never once heard a liberal willing to do that!
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**** you!
**** you, your mother, and your siblings. You are a sack of dishonest lying shit and I do not buy the moderated bullshit you are spewing here. Your history of DUmp concentric posts prove that. You and your brethren on the left, including 90% of the democrat party and 75% of the little Eichmanns that continue electing them into office are the NUMBER ONE enemy of this nation.
I have been reading your leftist shitbag America hating socialist "BUSH IS HITLER" drivel for several years now.
You ardently defend the "rights" of a woman to murder her unborn child yet blow your top if someone pisses in a lake or swats a fly in a forest. That is insanity.
You and your DUmp comrades *ARE* the very worst the human race has to offer. Read the posts there: the majority of you pathetic parasite ****s are on welfare, psychotropic drugs, sucks off the taxpayer tit in many ways, unemployed, fags, trannys, furrys, 'pedophile Man-Boy-Love members', with Underground Panther as your mascot. You repeatedly villify America, conservatives, Christians, and Republicans JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR POLITICS!
**** you, **** your mother, **** your siblings.
You and your cock-sucking liberal Code Pink commies represent everything wrong with America.
I do not buy your ****tard attempts at intellectualizing and defending your REAL dysfunctional belief set as you try to sway those here that you really do have a Manhattanesq cosmopolitan view of the world.
All you are doing here is trying to assuage your imaginary fairness or normalcy that never is or was a part of you. Your temporary (lie) exit from the DUmp is only because your ass is being ridiculed here and your REAL persona is being archived in the Internet for an eternity. You must be worried about further (ahem) employment and what a background check will find.
**** you and the horse you rode in on.
YOU and your leftist lik the the enemy of America and the Constitution DEMANDS that if *I* are to defend the Constitution and thus the United States of America, I MUST eliminate you.
I have zero problem with stating that here. I will not dance around the fact that this nation is going down deep and quick all at the hands of democrats, socialists, and the commie America hating college teachers, primitive protesters, Chicago political thugs, union EMPLOYEE thugs, old 60's hippies, Marxist Ayers followers, and EVERY cocksucking-fag-dyke-furry-psycho-unemployed-bong sucking-'purple haired Underground Panther breast removing tranny' pricks at the Dump.
Good God - the ****ing freak Underground Panther had her BREASTS REMOVED BECAUSE SHE THINKS SHE IS A MALE!!
Tell me that is NOT insanity. She should be caged, put down, and her brain sliced to find out how to help other humans avoid her insanity. The reality of it all is she/it/her/him/it again/pet/animal/tranny/furry is par for the course for a DUmp member.
**** you prick!
PM me and I will fly ANYWHERE to take your ass to task.
Intellectualize that ****head!
To bad we don't have high 500's, Patriot! This asshat is a washrag, a limp wrist washrag at that. The comment of marriage being an economic pairing between two people was the last straw!
Hey ****-nut, me and "Toots" did not get married for economic reasons! If anything it cost us money! It's cost us money for 36 mother ****ing years! Your damned saviors the DemonRats make sure of that! Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN!!! Nothing you say or do will change that.
Oh yeah, I'm with Pat, **** you and the horse you, your family, and your butt-buddies, rode in on!
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I admit, PG and BadCat are two of my favorite posters here. There is no way you will ever have a conversation with either if them and not know exactly where they stand. Touche'.
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Ditto. They let it fly. If one doesn't like what they say, it's their problem, and not the problem of BC or PG.
And, AllentownJake, yes--your side poisoned the discourse waaaay back in 1980 with the broadsides against Ronald Reagan. It's just escalated from there. Now that conservaitves are giving it right back to the Left, the Left is crying foul. Your side sowed the seeds. Now, you're starting--and I do mean starting, because it's going to get a lot worse in the US before it gets better--to reap the whirlwind. Yeah, you might be a 2nd Amendment supporter, but by and large, the Left is comprised of those who aren't supporters of the 2nd Amendment (and only support the 1st Amendment when it falls in line with their propaganda). Our side has a lot more supporters of the 2nd Amendment. Guess which side wins in the "whirlwind?"
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I made a pretty good living as an auditor till I got hit with a layoff in June. Paid lots of taxes too.
You are trying to sell me you are a follower of Jesus by saying you want to end my existence because of a political disagreement.
That love and pray for your enemies thing went way over your head.
I never stated I subscribed to the "love and pray for your enemies" thang!
Nowhere does God ask us to pray for and love Satan and his tools, which is precisely what you and your DUmp monkeys are.
As has been stated here before; "I am the Christian Satan warned you about".
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Not quite! Conservatives want to enforce the border, and when an illegal is found, no matter how, they get their ass kicked outa my country!!!!!!!!111111
I've never once heard a liberal willing to do that!
I think it's about 1.) stopping them, 2.) sending them back when caught AND 3.) punishing the employers that knowingly hire the illegals in order to "save money" and make a profit, costing Americans those jobs. (in that order)
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We all have reasons, many of them valid, for disliking Democrats, liberals, and primitives, but I've always suspected my loathing is based upon personal experience with such people, not ideology.
It's very hard to like someone who insists one is "deprived" and needs big government to make up the deficits in one's life.
I suspect my own credentials for loathing the primitives on Skins's island are pretty sterling, even purer than BadCat's or GOBUCKS'.
But here we have someone who comes over here with no pretensions, no big ideas about deception (such as Pedro Picasso's stupid stunts), no holier-than-thouness (such as with the nocturnally foul one); someone who identifies exactly who and what he is.
Honesty from the other side is rare, and so one must encourage it.
Actually today is a new and different day. I do agree that the weasel, while lying about his true inner workings, he has been civil and deserves some respect and right to open and honest debate here. I have no tolerance for the left and their war on America and morality but I do a disservice to ALL members here if I drive him away.
Maybe I should not start on the Baileys before 10 am. :bow:
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You were at a site where the majority -- not just one person -- the majority were saying the woman was using her Down's child as a prop and she was covering for it being her daughter's child. That was the mildest of all the sick stuff that was said at DU. Either you can explain your continued participation at a site that would do that or you can't. Because whether you like it or not, when the majority are over there doing it, and you hang with them, then you're as much as endorsing it.
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Hence my reasoning for not buying his lies. We know his history with the DUmp. We have brought over posts of his numerous times and were everything from snarking at his asinine stupidity to downright cheering his fracking elimination and suffering because his immoral attacks against Republicans, Conservatives, CHRISTIANS, Sara Palin, and a host of others. Some times going as far as promoting THEIR elimination or permanent incarceration.
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I think it's about 1.) stopping them, 2.) sending them back when caught AND 3.) punishing the employers that knowingly hire the illegals in order to "save money" and make a profit, costing Americans those jobs. (in that order)
EXACTLY! Show me a lib that even agrees with a single one of those points!
I do however have to give some, and I do mean a relatively few some, lee-way when it comes to hiring illegals.
In some cases the Gubmint has invaded the private sector in areas where it is nearly impossible for an honest man to make a profit!
Farming comes to mind immediately! I was born in Kansas. Price controls are the reason we lost so many privately owned small farms, ruining a complete way of life for many small Midwestern cities and towns. This caused the big cities to swell and the current problem of blue vs red in the states. If you can't support yourself, the Gubmint will do it for you. Ask any DemonRat!
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Oh I get it, clearly.
Sorry - I did NOT mean you personally. I meant Jake and his useful idiot comrades.
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Not quite! Conservatives want to enforce the border, and when an illegal is found, no matter how, they get their ass kicked outa my country!!!!!!!!111111
I've never once heard a liberal willing to do that!
Yea - a liberal wants them to reproduce like cockroaches, give them free lifetime room & board, education, and FORCE American LEGAL citizens to adopt their language and culture.
Liberals are traitors and insane.
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Actually today is a new and different day. I do agree that the weasel, while lying about his true inner workings, he has been civil and deserves some respect and right to open and honest debate here. I have no tolerance for the left and their war on America and morality but I do a disservice to ALL members here if I drive him away.
Maybe I should not start on the Baileys before 10 am. :bow:
Bull Shit, Patriot! He speaks as if he did not follow the other lemmings at the DUmp. Coming over here with a line like "it wasn't me", ain't gonna fly and he needs to be called on it! I can think of no one better to do that than you!
I for one will certainly not miss the limp wristed wet washrag. It stinks the place up so that it smells like mildew!
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Bull Shit, Patriot! He speaks as if he did not follow the other lemmings at the DUmp. Coming over here with a line like "it wasn't me", ain't gonna fly and he needs to be called on it! I can think of no one better to do that than you!
I for one will certainly not miss the limp wristed wet washrag. It stinks the place up so that it smells like mildew!
Thank you sir, I appreciate it. I won't let ATJ slide on anything. I know he will PM his butt-buddies at the DUmp to let them in on his highly intellectual methods of calling us out and showing off his superior leftist rhetoric. I know those asshats will read my posts and because of their weak-minded social engineering, they will be offended to the point of screaming at their `puter, throwing shit, (literally - monkeys et al) their heads exploding and the gutless fags won't have the guts to sigh up and respond. Those freaks will carry that resentment around for weeks, causing them much angst and me much pleasure.
Oh BTW, I wanted to be respectful of Frank and his insight too.
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Thank you sir, I appreciate it. I won't let ATJ slide on anything. I know he will PM his butt-buddies at the DUmp to let them in on his highly intellectual methods of calling us out and showing off his superior leftist rhetoric. I know those asshats will read my posts and because of their weak-minded social engineering, they will be offended to the point of screaming at their `puter, throwing shit, (literally - monkeys et al) their heads exploding and the gutless fags won't have the guts to sigh up and respond. Those freaks will carry that resentment around for weeks, causing them much angst and me much pleasure.
Oh BTW, I wanted to be respectful of Frank and his insight too.
Gives me much pleasure to see a DUmpMonkey squirm!
Oh, and BTW, Franc is our MahaSolichie! He tries to keep us in perspective. For that, we owe him much! Without him we would be, uh, I dunno, CU?
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Hhmm. I read Allentowns threads and found only one member who asked him to do his nation a favor and kill himself. Everybody else was nice as pie. In fact, the member in question even sort of apologized. In facty fact, one of the last things Allentown posted on that thread was....
Anyway it was pleasant talking to all of you and I wish you a happy weekend.
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Hhmm. I read Allentowns threads and found only one member who asked him to do his nation a favor and kill himself. Everybody else was nice as pie. In fact, the member in question even sort of apologized. In facty fact, one of the last things Allentown posted on that thread was....
Anyway it was pleasant talking to all of you and I wish you a happy weekend.
Why I am SHOCKED, shocked I tell you. A DUmmie who lied to establish cred at another forum. What is this world coming to....
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Hhmm. I read Allentowns threads and found only one member who asked him to do his nation a favor and kill himself. Everybody else was nice as pie. In fact, the member in question even sort of apologized. In facty fact, one of the last things Allentown posted on that thread was....
Anyway it was pleasant talking to all of you and I wish you a happy weekend.
**** 'im and the horse he rode in on! I have no sympathy for someone who thinks he's the smartest person in the room! No one can claim to be Einstein that and be truthful, yet they do it on every board they post on! **** 'im!
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**** 'im and the horse he rode in on! I have no sympathy for someone who thinks he's the smartest person in the room! No one can claim to be Einstein that and be truthful, yet they do it on every board they post on! **** 'im!
Dang, and I missed the whole dang thing!
Cindie
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Hhmm. I read Allentowns threads and found only one member who asked him to do his nation a favor and kill himself. Everybody else was nice as pie. In fact, the member in question even sort of apologized. In facty fact, one of the last things Allentown posted on that thread was....
That one member was our colleague PatriotGame, and I think he spoke for most of us in enthusiastically supporting the idea that every DUmmy practice self-euthanasia. Their lives have no value, and their continued existence is to the detriment of our nation. Also like most of us, I doubt very much that PatriotGame regrets that position at all. At this site, franksolich is the nicest fellow you can ever meet, and he will join in polite discussion with all types of vermin, just due to his sometimes excessive civility. Most of us don't labor under that burden.
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Hhmm. If we get them to kill themselves, can we part them out to the Chinese? I'd like to profit in some way off their misery.
Too bad dope is illegal or we could market some O'herion to them.....guess we'd have to accept food stamps though.
But I'm not complaining about P.G., I was trying to point out how weasely Allentown was. I went and read his posts here and at the new place he's at. He does that thing I'm noticing all the DU'ers do. Twists and evades and uses half truths.
Maybe someone else is already selling him heroin.
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That one member was our colleague PatriotGame, and I think he spoke for most of us in enthusiastically supporting the idea that every DUmmy practice self-euthanasia. Their lives have no value, and their continued existence is to the detriment of our nation. Also like most of us, I doubt very much that PatriotGame regrets that position at all. At this site, franksolich is the nicest fellow you can ever meet, and he will join in polite discussion with all types of vermin, just due to his sometimes excessive civility. Most of us don't labor under that burden.
Here! Here! Frank has a real problen with civility. He has too much! That is until a DUmp Monkey starts snivelling about it's so-called disability. Then the Coach let's them have it with both barrels! heh, heh!