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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on January 04, 2010, 02:38:12 PM
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Before we get to the thread this is in, I give you:
Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-04-10 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #17
18. I tend to think it was a mistake. Maybe too hasty glance at content by overworked Mods?
One thing I don't like about DU (which I otherwise mostly LOVE as a free speech forum) is that such decisions are rarely explained. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen an explanation for moving a thread. Well, I may have seen one about an LBN thread, which have very strict rules. I'm trying to think. But for the most part, I've never seen an explanation and I've seen some rather puzzling moves. This one has me baffled. It has absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. And the issue--the deaths of CIA agents and 'contractors'--is all over the news. It's a "hot" current issue.
I could see MAYBE moving it to the Latin America Forum, since the OP is about the same CIA private 'contractor' being active in Latin America. But I would object to that, because it's quite relevant to a discussion of the CIA and what the hell our tax dollars are being used for, and whose pockets they are being stuffed into--and also what kind of quality (training, expertise) we are paying for. This is NOT a backburner topic. And, given the Pentagon's big escalation of the U.S. military in Latin America, the Latin American aspect of this topic--the CIA and its activities--is particularly relevant and current.
So I'm thinking "mistake." And I wish the Mods would correct the mistake, or explain the reason.
Now- on to the OP:
Cassandra2010 (44 posts) Sun Jan-03-10 11:01 AM
Original message
Interesting! CIA Agents Assassinated in Afghanistan Worked for Contractor Active in Cuba/Venezuela
CIA Agents assassinated in Afghanistan worked for “contractor†active in Venezuela, Cuba
At least eight U.S. citizens were killed on a CIA operations base in Afghanistan this past Wednesday, December 30. A suicide bomber infiltrated Forward Operating Base Chapman located in the eastern province of Khost, which was a CIA center of operations and surveillance. Official sources in Washington have confirmed that the eight dead were all civilian employees and CIA contractors.
Fifteen days ago, five U.S. citizens working for a U.S. government contractor, Development Alternatives, Inc. (DAI), were also killed in an explosion at the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) office in Gardez. That same day, another bomb exploded outside the DAI offices in Kabul, although no serious injuries resulted.
The December 15 incident received little attention, although it occurred just days after the detention of a DAI employee in Cuba, accused of subversion and distribution of illegal materials to counterrevolutionary groups. President and CEO of DAI, Jim Boomgard, issued a declaration on December 14 regarding the detention of a subcontractor from his company in Cuba, confirming that, “the detained individual was an employee of a program subcontractor, which was implementing a competitively issued subcontract to assist Cuban civil society organizations.†The statement also emphasized the “new program†DAI is managing for the U.S. government in Cuba, the “Cuba Democracy and Contingency Planning Programâ€. DAI was awarded a $40 million USD contract in 2008 to help the U.S. government “support the peaceful activities of a broad range of nonviolent organizations through competitively awarded grants and subcontracts†in Cuba.
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A high-level USAID official confirmed two weeks ago that the CIA uses USAID’s name to issue contracts and funding to third parties in order to provide cover for clandestine operations. The official, a veteran of the U.S. government agency, stated that the CIA issues such contracts without USAID’s full knowledge.
Rest of story here:
http://www.chavezcode.com/2009/12/cia-agents-assassinat...
This OP sparks a heated debate on what is a reliable source...
FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-03-10 11:02 AM
Response to Original message
1. A reliable sourse I am sure
well...maybe not a debate, but a slungful of mud...
Cassandra2010 (44 posts) Sun Jan-03-10 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Eva Golinger
is an excellent source. You are not familiar with her body of work?
Seems like this story is pretty standard fare for how development companies aid and abet the purposes of Empire. There are lots of historical examples which parallel this story.
Have you ever read about how this was done in Central and South America during Reagan's heyday? Same template with better language.
OOooo...this is gonna be good...
FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-03-10 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #2
6. Oh ya - Mexico is just a bastion of reliable information
What? FDJ don't like the wetbacks?
Cassandra2010 (44 posts) Sun Jan-03-10 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. Whoa
That sounds like point blank right-wing bigotry.
Wow. I can't believe that outright slur against an entire country and people.
yeah...imagine racism at DU...
FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-03-10 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. 24 post and already claiming Right Wing Bigotry
"Thou doest protest too much"
Step two- declare OP is a troll...
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-04-10 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #6
20. Eva is not in Mexico and she's not Mexican although I don't see
why that would matter to you.
AAAAAND THEY'RE OFF!!!!
Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-03-10 05:09 PM
Response to Original message
13. Note to Mods: Why has this thread on the CIA been placed in the 9/11 Forum?
You think the CIA is a "conspiracy theory"?
(off to the dungeon that is...)
Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-04-10 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #13
21. There's a pattern of moving any thread which mentions Venezuela or Cuba without slamming them.
The threads which vilify the governments of those countries linger on in LBN until they have long white beards.
Yeah...where is the DU Latin American Mod/Gansta hate committee?
The entire thread, now banished to the dungeon, languishes...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x278069