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Title: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 04, 2010, 02:10:45 PM
DUmmy BOSSHOG has a delicate problem. His father died and left the single-wide and all its contents, including the Elvis collection, to his stepmother:
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BOSSHOG  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-04-10 01:37 PM
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Is it appropriate to ask someone for a copy of their Will?
It is my stepmother who told me she put me in her will shortly after my Dad died 5 years ago. I barely know the woman since she was only married to my Dad for a little more then a year before he died. She got everything he owned. I am his only living blood heir. I don't need his estate but more importantly I don't want her to pass it on to God Knows who.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9198090
DUmmy BOSSHOG doesn't need his estate. Riiight. That single-wide was paid off, but he sure doesn't need it. Ditto the Elvis lamp. The death tax will probably take the Elvis lamp anyway.


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MissMillie  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jan-04-10 01:47 PM
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2. Someone should know where to find a copy, or where to find the original
And yes, she can indeed pass her stuff on to anyone she wants to. And you have no legal right to know about any of it until she's gone (or unless she grants you power of attorney).

But you should either know where it it, or her lawyer should know where it it, and someone should know who her lawyer is.
Appropriate to ask for a copy... I'd say no.

The only lawyer a DUmmy family has is a defense lawyer. Estate law is rarely a concern.


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WolverineDG  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jan-04-10 01:52 PM
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3. It's a good idea to ask where the original is & who the executor is
if she's in Louisiana, you really need to know this. Getting a copy would be nice, but that won't help you if she changes her will. Not sure how Louisiana handles lost wills either.

I say this because my uncle was from Louisiana & probating his estate took years. Might not take that long with your step-mom (my uncle left a sizeable chunk of change that went about 20 different directions), but still something that will need a lawyer to handle.



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jobycom  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-04-10 02:31 PM
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6. Is this about ettiquete or legal rights?
If it's about ettiquette, and you don't really know her, you should ask her in some formal way, and not insult her by sounding casual about it. I don't mean you have to swoop on her with a legal representative or anything, just tell her you want to call on her to ask about your father's estate and her plans for it. Say it is just for sentimental reasons, or something, but don't sound disingenuous. During such a conversation the will will come up, and you can ask things like "Have you had it witnessed, is it filed?" Maybe you'll get an offer to see it, maybe you won't. If she tells you you are in it, and you ask her to see it to prove that, you are saying you don't trust her, and that's generally not appropriate, and could result in her cutting you out of it, if you offend her too badly. Also, you don't want to look like a vulture hanging around waiting for her to die.

If it is a case of your legal rights, you should call an attorney. There are all kinds of things to consider, like whether your father had a will, whether everything was left to her without strings, and stuff non-experts couldn't comprehend, probably. 

Just my random, non-legally trained thoughts. Probably useless, but I like to write. 

DUmmy jobycam is probably right, even though he can't spell "etiquette". DUmmy BOSSHOG is on the verge of seeing that single-wide slip through his fingers.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 04, 2010, 02:15:56 PM
BossPig is just unhappy that he ain't getting anything. He has no legal right to it and he has no legal means of obtaining a copy of someone elses will. That is a ridiculous thing to ask for.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 04, 2010, 02:16:39 PM
Bad DUmmy.

If he lays claim to his father's estate then the government can't take all that property and distribute to the poor who really need it.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: franksolich on January 04, 2010, 02:19:18 PM
Bad DUmmy.

If he lays claim to his father's estate then the government can't take all that property and distribute to the poor who really need it.

My thoughts exactly, sir.

Excellent.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 04, 2010, 02:22:21 PM
Bad DUmmy.

If he lays claim to his father's estate then the government can't take all that property and distribute to the poor who really need it.

great point.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: Chris_ on January 04, 2010, 03:28:29 PM
He doesn't need a copy of a will to get his share.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: zeitgeist on January 04, 2010, 03:51:16 PM
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The only lawyer a DUmmy family has is a defense lawyer. Estate law is rarely a concern.

 

 

Shouldn't that be "public defender"? :lmao:
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 04, 2010, 04:28:07 PM
Pop dies...DUmmie is supposed to get everything. To hell with Maw, the government is supposed to take care of her. Those other brothers and sisters don't deserve anything, they have worked all there lives while DUmmie was a political activist and community organizer for the betterment of "ALL" mankind.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 04, 2010, 04:47:58 PM
If everything was left to the wife free and clear and the books on the probate of Dad's estate are long-closed (As seems to be the case), ol' BigPig has no legal rights and he better damn' well be reeeeeal polite to her, if he wants to see even one empty soup can out of that trailer.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 04, 2010, 04:49:01 PM
He doesn't need a copy of a will to get his share.

But "his share" is whatever the woman says it is. He has no say in it really.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: ScubaGuy on January 04, 2010, 05:21:19 PM
Bad DUmmy.

If he lays claim to his father's estate then the government can't take all that property and distribute to the poor who really need it.

I agree.  What makes the DUmmie think he deserves to get what someone else worked for when there's poor people who need it much more than he does. 

Did you hear that Bobbolink is homeless?  She could use that place to live.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: Lord Undies on January 04, 2010, 05:34:07 PM
Hey Little Goons:  Wills can take assets on a very winding and convoluted path.  That's how "The Estate of Marilyn Monroe" ended up in some unknown and unrelated hands.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 04, 2010, 07:28:58 PM
bobbolink? Homeless?
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: Texacon on January 04, 2010, 09:11:33 PM
bobbolink? Homeless?

Heh.

KC
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: LC EFA on January 05, 2010, 02:50:14 AM
Hang on a second -

Wasn't it these self same DU'ers that constantly demand a 100% estate tax ?

Like always - that's just for "other people" and never applies to them.

 
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 05, 2010, 07:48:32 AM
DUmmie Will:

I __________________(Insert DUmmie name) being in possession of a sound  good mind(?) do leave all my worldly goods consisting my pot stash to ________________(insert Dummie name) and my miscellaneous pill collecton to ________________(insert DUmmie name). So ends my last Will and Testament.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: Karin on January 05, 2010, 08:09:40 AM
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but more importantly I don't want her to pass it on to God Knows who.

I re-read the OP and want to smack this guy upside the head.  Guess what, Bosshog.  Dad left you out of the will, and left everything to his beloved wife.  You don't count, live with it.  All of this stuff is none of your damn business anymore.  When you kick the bucket, you get to decide who'll get your junk, if any.  Posting these devious scheming questions at the DUmp make you look like a greedy, grabbing, grubby leach. 
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: md11hydmec on January 05, 2010, 08:13:24 AM
bobbolink? Homeless?

Wait, what? when did this happen? next thing you'll be telling me is Pitt got a brick thrown at him.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: Texacon on January 05, 2010, 08:34:38 AM
Hang on a second -

Wasn't it these self same DU'ers that constantly demand a 100% estate tax ?

Like always - that's just for "other people" and never applies to them.

 

Before they killed off my mole I got into a pretty heated discussion with a DUmmie over this very thing.  I was told by several of them 'it wasn't MY stuff' 'it belongs to the people' 'etc...'

So, yes, these are the same people who call for a 100% estate tax.

KC
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: jukin on January 05, 2010, 09:31:56 AM
Sounds like Dad had his head screwed on right and had already disowned said DUmbass for being a moonbat.  Said DUmbass apparently didn't contest the will of the civilized father so now is up the creek without a paddle.  Keep being a thorn in step mom's life and what little he might have gotten will be nothing when she revises HER will.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: Tucker on January 05, 2010, 11:01:18 AM
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Bad DUmmy.

If he lays claim to his father's estate then the government can't take all that property and distribute to the poor who really need it.

That's his convoluted master plan. He figures that the Government would give it to him as he is poor.

bobbolink homeless? Say it ain't so. It should only be a temporary setback.

Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Wills And Estates
Post by: USA4ME on January 05, 2010, 11:16:30 AM
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BOSSHOG

She got everything he owned. I am his only living blood heir.

Daddy didn't love me.  BOO HOO HOO!!!!   :bawl: :bawl:

At least now we know part of the source of the hog being an angry little twit.

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