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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 01, 2010, 08:26:57 PM
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Worth the read, even with the legalese:
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B77l4lqiR0CuZDEwZDczMzMtNzAwZC00Mjc2LThiMjgtNjdjMDg1YzVmNTkz&hl=en
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That's a guy who does his homework. Out-freaking-standing. :cheersmate:
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Priceless...although I'd be willing to wager at least 175 an hour. He must know the client. But absolutely hilarious.
I bet internet suits add a lot of spice to otherwise dry proceedings.
I just heard Woody Allen and Roman Polanski both get their cars serviced by the crooks at rt 60 Hundai.
True or not, it's not actionable. Funny, but not actionable.
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Very good letter (his paralegal probably wrote it). :)
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Great letter.
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Very well-written letter. That is one of the better pre-litigation letters I have yet seen.
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Priceless...although I'd be willing to wager at least 175 an hour. He must know the client. But absolutely hilarious.
I bet internet suits add a lot of spice to otherwise dry proceedings.
I just heard Woody Allen and Roman Polanski both get their cars serviced by the crooks at rt 60 Hundai.
True or not, it's not actionable. Funny, but not actionable.
$175? You wish. The mouth-breather window-licker that did my divorce charged $150, and the paralegals got $80.
And yeah--that was a good one.
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$175? You wish. The mouth-breather window-licker that did my divorce charged $150, and the paralegals got $80.
And yeah--that was a good one.
Depends what part of the country you are from, but your divorce would be considered simple litigation as there were no children involved. Attorneys make around $300+/hour for complex litigation. $600+/hour for tax, and securities. Trial work is a whole other ball game.
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I figured the guy charges a lot more an hour but knows the client. The way the letter is worded makes it seem like he's showing off a bit. The length suggests that a paralegal might have helped, but the letter itself...it's just so refreshingly...smarmy.
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I figured the guy charges a lot more an hour but knows the client. The way the letter is worded makes it seem like he's showing off a bit. The length suggests that a paralegal might have helped, but the letter itself...it's just so refreshingly...smarmy.
The letter is clearly a bit of a show-off; the client is probably someone whose business, or connections, the letter-writer wants (or maybe a pro-bono), and isn't being billed for even half of the time it took to research and write that letter.
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The letter is clearly a bit of a show-off; the client is probably someone whose business, or connections, the letter-writer wants (or maybe a pro-bono), and isn't being billed for even half of the time it took to research and write that letter.
I didn't get that impression at all. By the attorney's own comments, the client is just a run-of-the-mill joe who had a problem with the Hyundai dealer and decided to go public when the shit hit the fan.
No, I think the attorney's sole reason for writing the letter was to illustrate to the law firm that had been retained by the Hyundai dealer that they didn't know what the **** they were talking about (from a legal perspective). He "compliments" the attorney for that incompetence right at the beginning of the letter.
And the other purpose of the letter was to further illustrate that if the other law firm persisted in continuing the fight, that there would be repercussions far beyond merely defending oneself.
I think the attorney who wrote the letter simply enjoys being legally correct. And he likes taking the Bad Guy down in the same manner as Robin Hood takes down the Sheriff of Nottingham. I don't see that as smarmy -- I see it as being willing to pick up the gauntlet when it's been thrown to the ground.
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Every attorney enjoys being correct - it's what most of us live and breathe for - and researching and writing that letter took at least several hours of time, not the sort of time one would ordinarily spend on such a letter if one was just doing strictly billable work for a run-of-the-mill client.
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Every attorney enjoys being correct - it's what most of us live and breathe for - and researching and writing that letter took at least several hours of time, not the sort of time one would ordinarily spend on such a letter if one was just doing strictly billable work for a run-of-the-mill client.
Well, maybe he just had some available time and would rather research and write the letter than while away the hours on CC. :rotf:
And I'd say that "being correct" isn't just an attorney thing -- I'd wager that all of us want to be correct in what we do. Nobody goes to work with the idea of screwing up. :p
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Well, maybe he just had some available time and would rather research and write the letter than while away the hours on CC. :rotf:
And I'd say that "being correct" isn't just an attorney thing -- I'd wager that all of us want to be correct in what we do. Nobody goes to work with the idea of screwing up. :p
Fair dinkum; however, unless you're a lawyer as well (you might be as unfortunate as I am, who knows?) you really haven't quite seen a group of people turn the desire to be correct into a blistering, ulcerated psychosis until you've seen a bunch of lawyers at one of the top-tier firms.
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Fair dinkum; however, unless you're a lawyer as well (you might be as unfortunate as I am, who knows?) you really haven't quite seen a group of people turn the desire to be correct into a blistering, ulcerated psychosis until you've seen a bunch of lawyers at one of the top-tier firms.
Nope, I'm no attorney -- I'm a musician, which could be worse! Correct me if I'm wrong, but for a profession whose professionals live and die by words, it's completely understandable that pissing contests of epic proportions can ensue in the quest of "being right." (It's a turf thing too, I'll bet.)
Fair dinkum? Is that one of those legal Latin phrases? :rotf:
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Nope, I'm no attorney -- I'm a musician, which could be worse! Correct me if I'm wrong, but for a profession whose professionals live and die by words, it's completely understandable that pissing contests of epic proportions can ensue in the quest of "being right." (It's a turf thing too, I'll bet.)
Fair dinkum? Is that one of those legal Latin phrases? :rotf:
It ought to be! :rotf:
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Every attorney enjoys being correct - it's what most of us live and breathe for - and researching and writing that letter took at least several hours of time, not the sort of time one would ordinarily spend on such a letter if one was just doing strictly billable work for a run-of-the-mill client.
Paralegal (I am one) most likely did all of the research and probably wrote a draft letter with timelines etc, to which the attorney added a nice caustic tone.
As a causualty adjuster I had to write responses to 93A claim letters all the time (bad faith claims -- the sleazy PI attorneys sent them to piss you off and try to weasle more money out of you in settlement). I was rather caustic in my tone as for the most part I was dealing with professional claimants. My manager however (who was a CPA and an attorney -- brilliant guy who went on to be VP of another large insurance carrier) would relish every word I wrote and add more colorful commentary to take it up a notch or two. I remember getting a call from our counsel one day on a file that was actually in litigation, with the 93A demand sent out for good measure during discovery. He begged me to tone it down on the response -- didn't happen, my manager wouldn't allow it.
Good lawyers get pissed. Especially on claims such as this.
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Is that what a paralegal does?
Sounds like it might be an interesting job. :whistling:
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Is that what a paralegal does?
Sounds like it might be an interesting job. :whistling:
I actually love doing research.
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It does sound like a good job.
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Paralegal (I am one) most likely did all of the research and probably wrote a draft letter with timelines etc, to which the attorney added a nice caustic tone.
As a causualty adjuster I had to write responses to 93A claim letters all the time (bad faith claims -- the sleazy PI attorneys sent them to piss you off and try to weasle more money out of you in settlement). I was rather caustic in my tone as for the most part I was dealing with professional claimants. My manager however (who was a CPA and an attorney -- brilliant guy who went on to be VP of another large insurance carrier) would relish every word I wrote and add more colorful commentary to take it up a notch or two. I remember getting a call from our counsel one day on a file that was actually in litigation, with the 93A demand sent out for good measure during discovery. He begged me to tone it down on the response -- didn't happen, my manager wouldn't allow it.
Good lawyers get pissed. Especially on claims such as this.
I need to become a Pair-o-Beagles.
Imagine what I could write.
:hyper:
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I need to become a Pair-o-Beagles.
Imagine what I could write.
:hyper:
I dunno, MSB. Your ears would keep getting in the way. And that baying....Jesus, God, man, that baying is obnoxious.
Of course, that's what you live for, though, right? :-)
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I need to become a Pair-o-Beagles.
Imagine what I could write.
:hyper:
I would pay to read it. Good good stuff I am sure! :evillaugh:
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I would pay to read it. Good good stuff I am sure! :evillaugh:
"Mr. Bunny could you come to my office. We have to rebut a suit filed by a Ron Paul affiliated political action committee that wants to secede."