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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 28, 2009, 02:50:29 PM

Title: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 28, 2009, 02:50:29 PM
My Pet Jawa is running point on the events unfolding:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/200164.php

One video shows a mob storming a makeshift gallows to rescue 2 men hung by the police. Although the rescue was successful the men were later recaptured and hung until dead. Still, the challenge to the police state is significant...and not isolated.

A truck carrying political prisoners was also stormed and the prisoners set free.

Death toll is reportedly at 15:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,581264,00.html

The videos are gushing out. The regime cannot contain the hemorrhage of information.

Of significance is that all of this falls on the Shia holy observance of Ashura. Not even the Shah had the stones to do that. The regime is desperate.

Meanwhile, president Obama speaks out on the atrocities in the ME to uphold human dignity, liberty and freedom...by condemning Israel for building 700 apartments in East Jerusalem:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1238875/Israeli-plans-build-700-apartments-disputed-east-Jerusalem-spark-U-S-criticism.html
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: TheSarge on December 28, 2009, 02:57:32 PM
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by condemning Israel for building 700 apartments in East Jerusalem:

Surely you don't expect him to criticize his Muslim brothers do you?
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: The Village Idiot on December 28, 2009, 03:14:22 PM
The Iranian violence should be our top focus in the ME right now, after Al-Qeada of course. But Obama has already shown which side he is on.
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: TheSarge on December 28, 2009, 03:20:31 PM
The Iranian violence should be our top focus in the ME right now, after Al-Qeada of course. But Obama has already shown which side he is on.

The dirty little secret is that the PLO...Fatah...Hamas would all still be killing each other whether Israel was it's own country or not.

To continue to try and bring "peace" between the two sides is a fruitless waste of time and money.
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 28, 2009, 03:42:54 PM
The Spineless Wonder speaks:

[youtube=425,350]_0DaWSMZnEQ[/youtube]

The regime must be on the verge of collapse if Barry is going to say anything. The man that won't even risk his political capital on his own domestic agenda would never say anything unless regime change was all but a done deal.

Iranian people take heart.
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: TheSarge on December 28, 2009, 03:55:52 PM
The Spineless Wonder speaks:

You know...Ronald Reagan so respected the office of President that he refused to take his suit coat off while in the Oval Office.

Just sayin...
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: DefiantSix on December 28, 2009, 04:00:01 PM
You know...Ronald Reagan so respected the office of President that he refused to take his suit coat off while in the Oval Office.

Just sayin...

Dickbreath in Chief so respects the office that the puts his stank feet up on the HMS Resolute desk with frequency.

:puke:
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 29, 2009, 06:16:10 AM
Lots of pics of the police enduring Teh Pwnage:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1238717/Thousands-Iranian-protesters-clash-riot-police-bloody-pitched-battle-streets-Tehran.html
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: Baruch Menachem on December 29, 2009, 11:34:46 AM
These security guys are living in the same Tehran as the protestors, and most likely have the same issues. 

What do you think their level of enthusiasm for the regime is?  I think I would be very worried if I were the regime about my main level of defense. 
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 29, 2009, 06:59:46 PM
opleezopleezopleez

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Reports from Iran indicate that the Supreme National Security Council has ordered a complete check-up of the jet which is on standby to fly Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Khamenei and his family to Russia should the situation in Iran spiral out of control. The order, to the Pasdaran Revolutionary Guard Corps, was dated on Sunday, 27 December. A fax containing the order was sent to Dutch-based Shahrzad News...

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/iran-has-plane-ready-take-leader-safety

Allahpundit at hotair.com notes:

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If Khamenei was going to show weakness this provocative — essentially an admission that he’s no longer sure he can hold the country together — wouldn’t he have tasked the plane check-up to only his most devoutly loyal underlings? The last thing he’d want is to risk a leak that might spook the security forces, who would suddenly fear that the balance of power was about to turn and would side with the protesters so that they didn’t end up hanging from lampposts. Seems much more likely that this is pro-protester propaganda than a genuine scoop, alas.

Hopefully that alone will suffice.
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: The Village Idiot on December 29, 2009, 07:04:37 PM
Obama is already set to demand the return of the legitimate government of Iran.... ala Honduras.
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: NHSparky on December 29, 2009, 07:06:53 PM
Obama is already set to demand the return of the legitimate government of Iran.... ala Honduras.

Then again, you should have known something was up when Jimmuh the Peanut declared the election in Iran as legit as the one in Venezuela.
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: The Village Idiot on December 29, 2009, 07:14:51 PM
Now we have Democrats who want to go to Iran and bestow legitimacy on them.
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: thundley4 on December 29, 2009, 07:16:57 PM
Why is John Effin Kerry getting a green-light from the White House to go to Iran?
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: The Village Idiot on December 29, 2009, 07:18:06 PM
Why is John Effin Kerry getting a green-light from the White House to go to Iran?

You must have me on Ignore. I already said it in 2 posts.  :naughty:
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: thundley4 on December 29, 2009, 07:30:07 PM
You must have me on Ignore. I already said it in 2 posts.  :naughty:

I don't have you on ignore Herman.  It's just this administration is sending opposite signals by words and deeds,
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 30, 2009, 05:25:48 PM
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Iran's state news agency IRNA said that two leaders of "sedition" in the country have fled to a northern Iranian province. The top opposition leaders are Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi had fled the capital.

"Two of those who played a major role in igniting tension in Iran following the (June presidential) vote, fled Tehran and went to a northern province because they were scared of people, who demanded their punishment," IRNA said.

Supporters of the two men dismissed the report. Hossein Karoubi, the son of moderate defeated presidential candidate Mehdi Karoubi, said his father and opposition leader Mirhossein Mousavi were still in Tehran.

He said: "My father and Mr. Mousavi are in Tehran and IRNA's report is baseless. They are still pursuing the people's demands," Hossein Karoubi told moderate Parlemannews.

Hundreds of thousands of government supporters took to Iran's streets on Wednesday in a show of force against the opposition, with a senior cleric telling their leaders to repent or be declared enemies of God and face death.

However an opposition website said the two men had been taken into custody by members of the elite Revolutionary Guards and intelligence ministry for their own protection.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6913032/Iran-leaders-flee-Tehran-as-government-mobs-threaten-death.html

That last paragraph is a head-scratcher. Why would the opposition report Mousavi was being protected by the Revolutionary Guard?

I could see them being arrested and that was the bogus front put up by the regime but this is from the opposition.

It's be nice to think the RG and intel service is siding with the oppo but I haven't been drinking enough to accept that quite yet.
Title: Re: Iran is Coming Apart at the Seams
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 31, 2009, 12:13:49 PM
I would not underestimate the degree of ruthlessness the Iranian government would be willing to use to suppress this, they would make Tianamen Square look like a picnic frolic before they would yield control of the state to a post-Iron-Age government.