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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: TheSarge on December 28, 2009, 07:11:22 AM
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A Michigan man who was aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 says he witnessed Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab trying to board the plane in Amsterdam without a passport.
Kurt Haskell of Newport, Mich., who posted an earlier comment about his experience, talked exclusively with MLive.com and confirmed he was on the flight by sending a picture of his boarding pass. He and his wife, Lori, were returning from a safari in Uganda when they boarded the NWA flight on Friday.
Haskell said he and his wife were sitting on the ground near their boarding gate in Amsterdam, which is when they saw Mutallab approach the gate with an unidentified man.
Kurt and Lori Haskell are attorneys with Haskell Law Firm in Taylor. Their expertise includes bankruptcy, family law and estate planning.
While Mutallab was poorly dressed, his friend was dressed in an expensive suit, Haskell said. He says the suited man asked ticket agents whether Mutallab could board without a passport. “The guy said, 'He's from Sudan and we do this all the time.'â€
Mutallab is Nigerian. Haskell believes the man may have been trying to garner sympathy for Mutallab's lack of documents by portraying him as a Sudanese refugee.
The ticket agent referred Mutallab and his companion to her manager down the hall, and Haskell didn't see Mutallab again until after he allegedly tried to detonate an explosive on the plane.
Haskell said the flight was mostly unremarkable. That was until he heard a flight attendant say she smelled smoke, just after the pilot announced the plane would land in Detroit in 10 minutes. Haskell got out of his seat to view the brewing commotion.
“I stood up and walked a couple feet ahead to get a closer look, and that's when I saw the flames,†said Haskell, who sat about seven rows behind Mutallab. “It started to spread pretty quickly. It went up the wall, all the way to ceiling.â€
Haskell, who described Mutallab as a diminutive man who looks like a teenager, said about 30 seconds passed between the first mention of smoke and when Mutallab was subdued by fellow passengers.
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/flight_253_passenger_says_at_l.html
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Meanwhile, Nappy says the system worked and Gibbs says it's Bush's fault.
Stand by, people--it's happening again.
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Queue ZZ Top video.
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Meanwhile, Nappy says the system worked and Gibbs says it's Bush's fault.
Stand by, people--it's happening again.
UPDATE: Nappy is now saying the system "failed"...however Gibbs still suffering from BDS.
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UPDATE: Nappy is now saying the system "failed"...however Gibbs still suffering from BDS.
That's because even SHE couldn't believe that level of bullshit.
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That's because even SHE couldn't believe that level of bullshit.
She's claiming on the Today Show that her comment yesterday was 'taken out of context". :whatever:
She's also subtly unleashing her BDS by saying that the bomber was issued a vis in June 2008.
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She's claiming on the Today Show that her comment yesterday was 'taken out of context". :whatever:
She's also subtly unleashing her BDS by saying that the bomber was issued a vis in June 2008.
Sorry, I've seen the YouTube video. Hard to take what she said out of context.
And if the June '08 memo did in fact deal SPECIFICALLY with this guy, then please explain how they ignored it, but while the Bush admin was on the job, this asshole didn't try it? Oh, and then we're getting into the father warning the US Embassy not once but TWICE, both within the last six months....just sayin.
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Sorry, I've seen the YouTube video. Hard to take what she said out of context.
And if the June '08 memo did in fact deal SPECIFICALLY with this guy, then please explain how they ignored it, but while the Bush admin was on the job, this ******* didn't try it? Oh, and then we're getting into the father warning the US Embassy not once but TWICE, both within the last six months....just sayin.
No he was granted his Visa into the U.S. in '08. that's the attempt to "Blame Bush".
His father tried to contact the U.S. government 6 months ago to tell them about his son with the terrorist ties trying to get on a plane.
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No he was granted his Visa into the U.S. in '08. that's the attempt to "Blame Bush".
His father tried to contact the U.S. government 6 months ago to tell them about his son with the terrorist ties trying to get on a plane.
Yes, it all makes sense now...the evil BOOOOOOSSSHHHHH got Darth Rove to personally issue the visa with specific instructions to let this guy in 18 months later.
Seems to me that if the State Dept. can issue a visa, if the guy shows up on a terrorist watch list or no fly list they could pull the ****er too--so why didn't they?
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so why didn't they?
Kinda of a self answering question isn't it?
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A Michigan man who was aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 says he witnessed Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab trying to board the plane in Amsterdam without a passport.
IF this is confirmed be security video - I assume EuroFolk have enough sense to have security cameras at airport gates! - this fact should raise some very serious questions:
* Why didn't the gate agent(s) call for security back-up, pronto?
* Why in Hades did the gate agent(s) let this twerp board?!
* Who was the twerp's incongruous companion?
Even pre-9/11, having a passport for international flight was de rigeur, at least when I flew to Taiwan and Germany.
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According to Rep. Peter King...he and Rep Pete Hoekestra are bring stonewalled on finding out WTF is going on in regards to this terrorist bombing attempt.
According to Mr. King this morning...everything is being controlled through the WH and the AG office and they aren't saying a word to anyone...including the people that SHOULD know and should be briefed on the situation.
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According to Rep. Peter King...he and Rep Pete Hoekestra are bring stonewalled on finding out WTF is going on in regards to this terrorist bombing attempt.
According to Mr. King this morning...everything is being controlled through the WH and the AG office and they aren't saying a word to anyone...including the people that SHOULD know and should be briefed on the situation.
Ruh-roh, a little birdie sez: the siht's hit the fan, big-time; everyone with an ounce of sense better duck-n-cover!
Zero-bama really dropped it on this one!
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Ruh-roh, a little birdie sez: the siht's hit the fan, big-time; everyone with an ounce of sense better duck-n-cover!
Zero-bama really dropped it on this one!
While I agree, he's also doing a great job of diminishing the situation by ignoring it. Ignore, redirect, then attack. This will be blamed on Bush and will never be labeled as a terrorist attempt.
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He is going to be standing in the unemployment line in about 3 years if he keeps screwing up like he has
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He is going to be standing in the unemployment line in about 3 years if he keeps screwing up like he has
Yes, but he'll still have that platinum-encrusted pension and retirement plan every ex-President gets, along with healthcare benefits that he wants to deny to the rest of us through Obamacare.
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Yes, but he'll still have that platinum-encrusted pension and retirement plan every ex-President gets, along with healthcare benefits that he wants to deny to the rest of us through Obamacare.
Doesn't he also get a huge stipend for an office?
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Doesn't he also get a huge stipend for an office?
Yup. And lifetime secret-service "buddies" for 24/7 security.
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Yup. And lifetime secret-service "buddies" for 24/7 security.
Pretty sure they don't get lifetime Secret Service. OTOH , his might be a "special case" do to being African black. He might be more of a target after his term than other presidents have been.
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Pretty sure they don't get lifetime Secret Service. OTOH , his might be a "special case" do to being African black. He might be more of a target after his term than other presidents have been.
Fair enough; it used to be for their lifetimes, but it's now limited to no more than 10 years from the date the President leaves office, as per the USSS website (http://www.secretservice.gov/protection.shtml).
Even that is 10 years too long for this bee-itch, in my humble little opinion.
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IF this is confirmed be security video - I assume EuroFolk have enough sense to have security cameras at airport gates! - this fact should raise some very serious questions:
* Why didn't the gate agent(s) call for security back-up, pronto?
* Why in Hades did the gate agent(s) let this twerp board?!
* Who was the twerp's incongruous companion?
Even pre-9/11, having a passport for international flight was de rigeur, at least when I flew to Taiwan and Germany.
Short memory and the illusion of safety as it has been years since we Americans have had an incident like this that was successfull.
This is very disquiting to me, what did that idiot think was the end result if he had been able to blow up that plane.? No one would know of his martyrdom, why did he wait to almost touch down and not blown up the plane earlier.?
Some how I am not so sure this fella was very anxious to blow everyone up, he could have ignited the bomb in the bathroom.
Something is just not making sense here, All this insanity happening all over the world at the same time, All this stuff must be due to a few power mad men who hate us are trying to destroy democracy from with in.
What do we do with our system that has those in power ready and willing to use human greed to sell out those that turn to them for safety.
Only way possible for this to have gone down was for allot of money to change hands in quite a few country's. Dollars to donuts the Chumps that they used to ignore this man were given a tall tale and a good sum of money, give them the old movie treatment, let them think they are doing something that is good, and exciteing-----Not too many people will give up the money, or admit they bought a bill of goods.
Ah well, things I will never know in my life time or perhaps the life time of my grandbabys.
Biggest historical incident that still has yet to be solved that I was eye wittiness to will perhaps never be solved. Who was and how did Jack Ruby get into that Dallas Garage.?
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Short memory and the illusion of safety as it has been years since we Americans have had an incident like this that was successfull.
This is very disquiting to me, what did that idiot think was the end result if he had been able to blow up that plane.? No one would know of his martyrdom, why did he wait to almost touch down and not blown up the plane earlier.?
Some how I am not so sure this fella was very anxious to blow everyone up, he could have ignited the bomb in the bathroom.
Something is just not making sense here, All this insanity happening all over the world at the same time, All this stuff must be due to a few power mad men who hate us are trying to destroy democracy from with in.
What do we do with our system that has those in power ready and willing to use human greed to sell out those that turn to them for safety.
Only way possible for this to have gone down was for allot of money to change hands in quite a few country's. Dollars to donuts the Chumps that they used to ignore this man were given a tall tale and a good sum of money, give them the old movie treatment, let them think they are doing something that is good, and exciteing-----Not too many people will give up the money, or admit they bought a bill of goods.
Ah well, things I will never know in my life time or perhaps the life time of my grandbabys.
Biggest historical incident that still has yet to be solved that I was eye wittiness to will perhaps never be solved. Who was and how did Jack Ruby get into that Dallas Garage.?
You're batshit crazy :mental:
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You're batshit crazy :mental:
Perhaps you are correct about me being nuts on this subject, I just cannot understand how all the steps the young man had to go through to get a bomb aboard that plane and KNOW ONE at any of the way did their job. It goes into the realm of the unbelievable that everyones security at the same time would be so lax.
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Perhaps you are correct about me being nuts on this subject, I just cannot understand how all the steps the young man had to go through to get a bomb aboard that plane and KNOW ONE at any of the way did their job. It goes into the realm of the unbelievable that everyones security at the same time would be so lax.
Yep. Batshit crazy confirmed.
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Short memory and the illusion of safety as it has been years since we Americans have had an incident like this that was successfull.
There is no "illusion of safety". There was, for 7 years, an all out effort that cost many good people their lives that went into protecting the citizens of this country.
This is very disquiting to me, what did that idiot think was the end result if he had been able to blow up that plane.? No one would know of his martyrdom, why did he wait to almost touch down and not blown up the plane earlier.?
Are you serious? These animals don't care about their own personal fame, they just want to kill. Pay closer attention, it just may save your life one day.
Some how I am not so sure this fella was very anxious to blow everyone up, he could have ignited the bomb in the bathroom.
Fuse was lit, anxious is not a factor.
Something is just not making sense here, All this insanity happening all over the world at the same time, All this stuff must be due to a few power mad men who hate us are trying to destroy democracy from with in.
Or it could be that our advisaries know that a weakling was elected to run the show.
What do we do with our system that has those in power ready and willing to use human greed to sell out those that turn to them for safety.
Start actually applying laws and punishment to liberals and the democrat party? Or am I being too obvious?
Only way possible for this to have gone down was for allot of money to change hands in quite a few country's. Dollars to donuts the Chumps that they used to ignore this man were given a tall tale and a good sum of money, give them the old movie treatment, let them think they are doing something that is good, and exciteing-----Not too many people will give up the money, or admit they bought a bill of goods.
And you watch entirely too much television.
Biggest historical incident that still has yet to be solved that I was eye wittiness to will perhaps never be solved. Who was and how did Jack Ruby get into that Dallas Garage.?
The same way this assclown got on the plane: Somebody dropped the damn ball.
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It goes into the realm of the unbelievable that everyones security at the same time would be so lax.
Do you have any idea how many people it would take to keep a secret for what you're suggesting? Talk about unbelievable...
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Now I want to know about the other passenger on flight 253 that was arrested after the plane landed. Apparently the dogs smelled something in his luggage and he was cuffed and taken away.