jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-27-09 08:36 AMhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x97318
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Senate "Moderate" Dems to W.H.: Drop cap-and-trade (Politico)
Senate Dems to W.H.: Drop cap-and-trade
Bruised by the health care debate and worried about what 2010 will bring, moderate Senate Democrats are urging the White House to give up now on any effort to pass a cap-and-trade bill next year.
“I am communicating that in every way I know how,†says Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), one of at least half a dozen Democrats who've told the White House or their own leaders that it's time to jettison the centerpiece of their party's plan to curb global warming.
The creation of an economy-wide market for greenhouse gas emissions is as the heart of the climate bill that cleared the House earlier this year. But with the health care fight still raging and the economy still hurting, moderate Democrats have little appetite for another sweeping initiative — especially another one likely to pass with little or no Republican support.
“We need to deal with the phenomena of global warming, but I think it’s very difficult in the kind of economic circumstances we have right now,†said Indiana Democratic Sen. Evan Bayh, who called passage of any economy-wide cap and trade “unlikely.�
At a meeting about health care last month, moderates pushed to table climate legislation in favor of a jobs bill that would be an easier sell during the 2010 elections, according to Senate Democratic aides.
“I’d just as soon see that set aside until we work through the economy,†said Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.). ?“What we don’t want to do is have anything get in the way of working to resolve the problems with the economy.â€
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30984.html
hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-27-09 08:41 AM
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1. They're anything but "Moderate"
Moderate in comparison to the lunatic fringe maybe, but not moderate otherwise. What they are is DINOs
TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-27-09 07:59 PM
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33. They are a militant GOP tendency.
A Party within a Party, determined to destroy the agenda that they and every Democratic candidate stood on in 2008.
sandnsea (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-27-09 08:44 AM
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2. Well that didn't take long
Until we educate the people in those states, we will have problems with whoever is elected from those states.
flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-27-09 08:44 AM
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3. Why is it always the same Corporadems who line up with the special interests and the Republicans?
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These are the same Senators carrying Obama's bong water on Health Deform.
If Cap and Tax is enacted, minorities, women, children, and DUmmys will be hit hardest.
Not at all - the people who have the temerity to actually contribute value-added to the economy will suffer, because they'll be taxed ever harder in order to come up with the offsetting "benefit" entitlement theDemocratsCommunists will devise to shelter minorities, women, children, and DUmmies from Cap and Tax.
I disagree. Sure there will be offsets and tax relief for the poor, but they won't be sufficient to overcome the new burdens put on them by Cap and Tax. They'll be screaming for for relief, and the DimRats will blame it on the evil big businesses , and will campaign on more restrictions and taxes on the corporations. It's a never ending cycle with the left.
I disagree. Sure there will be offsets and tax relief for the poor, but they won't be sufficient to overcome the new burdens put on them by Cap and Tax. They'll be screaming for for relief, and the DimRats will blame it on the evil big businesses , and will campaign on more restrictions and taxes on the corporations. It's a never ending cycle with the left.
Exactly!!! The DimWits want everyone on the public teet! The whole idea is to create gubmint run ___________ (fill in blank with latest absurd request)
The whole idea is to re-create the Soviet Union.
Only this time, under SMART POWER!