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Superdelegates play hardball
Flexing their new power to determine the Democratic presidential nomination, a bloc of Ohio superdelegates is withholding endorsements from Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton until one or the other offers a concrete proposal to protect American jobs, two Ohio Democrats told Politico Wednesday.
The apparent deal among Ohioans is the first evidence of superdelegates’ banding together and seeking concessions from the presidential candidates in return for votes at the convention. It’s a practice that could become more common after Clinton’s victories in Ohio and Texas on Tuesday put her back on solid footing in her race against Obama and ensured that the battle for superdelegates will continue for many weeks to come.
Ohio Democratic Rep. Marcy Kaptur, one of the leading protectionists in Congress, said Ohioans have many suggestions on economic and trade issues they hoped the candidates would address.
“We have a laundry list of measures we think would be effective, some involving tax policy, some involving investment policy, intellectual property incentives to hold investments in this country,†Kaptur said. “I’m hoping superdelegates [who] are uncommitted that have the economy as their major concern will gravitate to our group and use that power to gain additional attention.â€
Among congressional Democrats from Ohio, only Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, a Clinton backer, has endorsed. The rest — Kaptur, Reps. Dennis J. Kucinich, Tim Ryan, Zack Space, Betty S. Sutton and Charlie Wilson, and Sen. Sherrod Brown — remain uncommitted even after their state’s voters handed Clinton a decisive victory in Tuesday’s Democratic primary.
“We had a general agreement,†Kucinich said of the pact. “We have economic issues that need to be addressed. Ohio has economic issues more urgent than any other state.â€
A spokesman for Ryan acknowledged that the Ohioans sent a letter to both Obama and Clinton last week in which they outlined their views about the economy, but he insisted there was no agreement to withhold votes. Ryan himself told Politico: “We want the candidates to talk about the issues important to Ohio. We all have the same issues, and we’ve talked about them. But I don’t think there’s any coordinated effort to stick together. There are conversations. It gets hard to build any kind of alliance when, in a lot of our districts, certain candidates did really, really well.â€
Ryan said he had been thinking of making an endorsement “up until Monday,†then added: “There’s always talk of trying to build coalitions.â€
More (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/8867.html)
it was inevitable. and superdelegates from other states will follow suit. the question of whether the SDs should vote the will of their constituents is now irrelevant; now they will have to be bought off, one by one.
THIS is why you don't leave the nomination up to politicians. never mind which candidate is a whore for special interest, now their eventual nominee will be a whore for several hundred members of congress, regardless of who it is.
this is a MESS. :-)
oh, and I am sure that kookspinach will be reasonable. :popcorn:
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/bgpyt1.jpg) = Democrat party. This is FUN!!!!1111111111singlesoneoneone!!!1111
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/bgpyt1.jpg) = Democrat party. This is FUN!!!!1111111111singlesoneoneone!!!1111
this almost guarantees that no matter what happens, half the dem party will be totally PISSED OFF after the convention. :-)
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/bgpyt1.jpg) = Democrat party. This is FUN!!!!1111111111singlesoneoneone!!!1111
this almost guarantees that no matter what happens, half the dem party will be totally PISSED OFF after the convention. :-)
They will still have about three months to calm the waters. Fortunately that is about half the time they will need. We are dealing with the party that FEELS instead of THINKS.
That ****er McCain is actually going to sit in the White House. With my help. I could puke.
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/bgpyt1.jpg) = Democrat party. This is FUN!!!!1111111111singlesoneoneone!!!1111
this almost guarantees that no matter what happens, half the dem party will be totally PISSED OFF after the convention. :-)
that Lanny Davis guy was on FOX tonight, smiling the whole time saying, "oh yeah, whoEVER gets the nomination - that's our person. we'll ALL unite behind that person"
riiiiiiight. :popcorn:
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/bgpyt1.jpg) = Democrat party. This is FUN!!!!1111111111singlesoneoneone!!!1111
this almost guarantees that no matter what happens, half the dem party will be totally PISSED OFF after the convention. :-)
They will still have about three months to calm the waters. Fortunately that is about half the time they will need. We are dealing with the party that FEELS instead of THINKS.
That ****er McCain is actually going to sit in the White House. With my help. I could puke.
"life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think." walpole, I think.
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/bgpyt1.jpg) = Democrat party. This is FUN!!!!1111111111singlesoneoneone!!!1111
this almost guarantees that no matter what happens, half the dem party will be totally PISSED OFF after the convention. :-)
that Lanny Davis guy was on FOX tonight, smiling the whole time saying, "oh yeah, whoEVER gets the nomination - that's our person. we'll ALL unite behind that person"
riiiiiiight. :popcorn:
easier to stab them in the back if you are behind them. :-)
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it sure is.... and obama is just stupid enough to keep pulling stuff out of Hilary's nailed up closet to try and smack her with it. What the hell is he doing??? :rotf:
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/bgpyt1.jpg) = Democrat party. This is FUN!!!!1111111111singlesoneoneone!!!1111
this almost guarantees that no matter what happens, half the dem party will be totally PISSED OFF after the convention. :-)
They will still have about three months to calm the waters. Fortunately that is about half the time they will need. We are dealing with the party that FEELS instead of THINKS.
That ****er McCain is actually going to sit in the White House. With my help. I could puke.
"life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think." walpole, I think.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think
You can move the world with an idea, but you have to think of it first.
What is research but a blind date with knowledge? -- Will Harvey
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/bgpyt1.jpg) = Democrat party. This is FUN!!!!1111111111singlesoneoneone!!!1111
this almost guarantees that no matter what happens, half the dem party will be totally PISSED OFF after the convention. :-)
They will still have about three months to calm the waters. Fortunately that is about half the time they will need. We are dealing with the party that FEELS instead of THINKS.
That ****er McCain is actually going to sit in the White House. With my help. I could puke.
"life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think." walpole, I think.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think
You can move the world with an idea, but you have to think of it first.
What is research but a blind date with knowledge? -- Will Harvey
someone should have copyrighted that saying (http://thinkexist.com/quotation/life_is_a_tragedy_for_those_who_feel-but_a_comedy/11067.html)
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it sure is.... and obama is just stupid enough to keep pulling stuff out of Hilary's nailed up closet to try and smack her with it. What the hell is he doing??? :rotf:
living dangerously. :-)