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Title: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: TheSarge on December 25, 2009, 01:47:00 PM
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Imagine the outrage if any Republican President went on vacation during a recession and spent $4,000 a night on accommodations. On ABC’s Good Morning America Wednesday, correspondent Yunji de Nies seemed to suggest that President Obama’s family will be spending such an amount renting expensive living space at an estate house in Hawaii for a two-week Christmas vacation. De Nies: "Christmas trees here aren't cheap – neither is staying in this $8.9 million house, which runs $4,000 a night. The Obamas rented this one and the two next door for family and friends. When you spend that kind of money, people pay attention to detail."

De Nies did not specify exactly how much is being spent or where the money is coming from, though the amount may even be significantly more than $4,000 a day as she related that "the two next door" were also being rented for family and friends of the Obamas. The ABC correspondent also recounted that the estate house overlooks a beach popular with royalty: "But it's the master bedroom and its breathtaking view that is the crown jewel. Kailua Beach has been ranked the island's best, a favorite of Hawaiian royalty."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2009/12/25/abc-details-obamas-4-000-day-christmas-vacation

Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Mr Mannn on December 25, 2009, 01:56:09 PM
And its all paid for with Tax Payer Dollars.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on December 25, 2009, 02:04:06 PM
Who would you trust more? A metrosexual Pres who stays in a lavish hawaiian mansion while on vacation, or one that spends his vacation on his ranch riding horses and working with his hands?



Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: debk on December 25, 2009, 02:45:01 PM
If he's been able to get 3 houses @ $4000 a night...I'm not only really impressed...but very doubtful.

Wonder how much it's costing to put up everyone else? 
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: SVPete on December 25, 2009, 02:48:47 PM
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Imagine the outrage if any Republican President went on vacation during a recession and spent $4,000 a night on accommodations.
Don't have to imagine it! Five words: "Nancy Reagan" & "White House china"!

That pair are acting like tasteless parvenus (social climbers) living decadently on OPM!
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: SVPete on December 25, 2009, 02:56:58 PM
The article is ambiguous. It says that the vacation is $4K/day, but later says that the place they are staying in is $4K/day, and that they had also rented two other places. My guess is that the place they are staying in is $4K/day, and the other places they got for friends and stuff they do are even more. And of course there's the Secret Service people and medioid life forms.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: SilverOrchid on December 25, 2009, 03:12:01 PM
Who would you trust more? A metrosexual Pres who stays in a lavish hawaiian mansion while on vacation, or one that spends his vacation on his ranch riding horses and working with his hands?





The latter.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: bkg on December 25, 2009, 04:08:33 PM
The latter.

I guarantee Obama's hands have never had a single callous. Ever.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: littlelamb on December 25, 2009, 05:16:46 PM
Now I know where our tax dollars are going
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Chris on December 25, 2009, 05:19:12 PM
The office of the President has something like a $90k-per-year travel and leisure budget, and it looks like Barry is determined to use every penny of it.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: SOFTBALL#4GRAMA on December 25, 2009, 07:33:55 PM
Probably a little more than a few folks could have afforded a Hawaiian vacation until he took all their money, to use for his...  :fuelfire:
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: NHSparky on December 25, 2009, 08:31:18 PM
The office of the President has something like a $90k-per-year travel and leisure budget, and it looks like Barry is determined to use every penny of it.

Hell, he used that on his "date night" to NYC, and about $100K on top of that...for ONE NIGHT.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: debk on December 25, 2009, 08:55:58 PM
I was thinking about this...

$4k per night for one place...plus he rented out 2 more houses ...FOR 10 DAYS!!!!

That's $120,000 before you add in travel, food, special security, transporting the cars, helicopters and whatever else he needs, the Secret Service personnel and putting up all these periferral people involved - like pilots, drivers, etc for 10 days.

Keep in mind...this is the person who chastizes corporations for having corporate parties and retreats....

Obviously it's a goose/gander sort of thing...  ::)
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Airwolf on December 25, 2009, 11:40:23 PM
The next 3 years can't get here soon enough.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: diesel driver on December 26, 2009, 12:50:40 AM
I guarantee Obama's hands have never had a single callous. Ever.

Might explain why he bows to lower forms of heads of state....

His handshake is more limp than a dead trout....
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: diesel driver on December 26, 2009, 12:53:28 AM
The next 3 years can't get here soon enough.

Hell, Biden is starting to look like a better choice....
Neither is worth pissing on if they were on fire....
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 26, 2009, 02:23:07 AM
It's the "Drunk Idiot With a Stolen Credit Card Syndrome" acting up again....he'll be going on Social Security Disability because of it as soon as he leaves the White House.




Word changed by Moderator.  Keep the racist remarks OUT of my section - TRG
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: crockspot on December 26, 2009, 05:04:40 AM
And its all paid for with Tax Payer Dollars.

I wouldn't assume it is all picked up by The People. Certainly the Secret Service costs and the AF1 stuff, but usually presidents kick in private funds for part of it, especially for "friends". I believe that was the case on Obama's last vacation on the Vineyard.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: TheSarge on December 26, 2009, 08:10:26 AM
Might explain why he bows to lower forms of heads of state....

His handshake is more limp than a dead trout....

Funny you say that in that way.  It perfectly describes the handshake of one William Jefferson Clinton that some of my buddies in Kuwait received back in 94.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Flame on December 26, 2009, 12:45:51 PM
How many dang vacations does this guy need in a year, anyway?   At least Bush just went "home" for his vacations!
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: littlelamb on December 26, 2009, 01:32:27 PM
Hasn't he used up his vacation time for the year yet?
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: debk on December 26, 2009, 06:00:56 PM
I wouldn't assume it is all picked up by The People. Certainly the Secret Service costs and the AF1 stuff, but usually presidents kick in private funds for part of it, especially for "friends". I believe that was the case on Obama's last vacation on the Vineyard.


The periferral costs...SS, AF1, ect....for 10 days in Hawaii....are probably considerably more than renting the houses for 3 days. Heck....just flying AF1 is probably more.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: crockspot on December 26, 2009, 06:07:47 PM

The periferral costs...SS, AF1, ect....for 10 days in Hawaii....are probably considerably more than renting the houses for 3 days. Heck....just flying AF1 is probably more.

I won't argue there.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Carl on December 26, 2009, 06:13:34 PM

The periferral costs...SS, AF1, ect....for 10 days in Hawaii....are probably considerably more than renting the houses for 3 days. Heck....just flying AF1 is probably more.

It is a very long flight from San Fran to Hawaii,guessing from DC it is probably 14 hours total at least.
A lot farther then any other President has taken for a "vacation" I bet.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: debk on December 26, 2009, 06:25:45 PM
It is a very long flight from San Fran to Hawaii,guessing from DC it is probably 14 hours total at least.
A lot farther then any other President has taken for a "vacation" I bet.

When I went from here through Atlanta....from the time I got up, flew with stops in Atlanta, Dallas, Honolulu, to Maui to hotel and dinner...we were up just over 25 hours.

According to some statement Michelle made at a Q&A at some Children's Hospital last week..."the President considers Hawaii to be his home"....so I guess he's not counting this as a vacation. Guess that big house in Chicago is just a mailing address....

Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: thundley4 on December 26, 2009, 07:11:26 PM
Guess that big house in Chicago is just a mailing address....

Considering what the weather is in Chicago and in Hawaii, I think I'd consider Hawaii my home also.   Wonder why he didn't run for the senate to represent Hawaii?   No Daley Machine to back him?
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: SilverOrchid on December 26, 2009, 08:43:02 PM
If he was a Republican in in light of recent events, the left will be screaming like two year olds.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: ironhorsedriver on December 27, 2009, 06:39:41 AM
C'mon guys. He's using stimulus money. Think of the jobs he's creating. I bet he loaded down on servants, temporary jobs though they may be.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: NHSparky on December 27, 2009, 06:49:41 AM
It is a very long flight from San Fran to Hawaii,guessing from DC it is probably 14 hours total at least.
A lot farther then any other President has taken for a "vacation" I bet.

Flying commercial, it's about six hours from IAD-SFO, and another six from SFO-HNL.  Given that there are no commercial flights from the east coast to Hawaii, I'm just guessing but I'd say 11 hours isn't unreasonable to assume.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: SVPete on December 27, 2009, 08:02:55 AM
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It is a very long flight from San Fran to Hawaii,guessing from DC it is probably 14 hours total at least.
By way of comparison: the Evergreen flight from SFO (SF) to CKS (Taipei) I took in '99 was 14 hours; the Lufthansa flight from O'Hare to Munich I took in '00 was 11 hours. OTOH, winter in Chicago vs. Hawaii ... not exactly a tough choice ... when it's OPM.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: debk on December 27, 2009, 12:42:36 PM
By way of comparison: the Evergreen flight from SFO (SF) to CKS (Taipei) I took in '99 was 14 hours; the Lufthansa flight from O'Hare to Munich I took in '00 was 11 hours. OTOH, winter in Chicago vs. Hawaii ... not exactly a tough choice ... when it's OPM.


It's 11 hours from Munich to Atlanta Hartsfield too...
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Chris on December 27, 2009, 12:43:30 PM
Cincinnati to Frankfurt is about twelve... that was the last time I flew overseas.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: RightCoast on December 27, 2009, 01:40:39 PM
I don't suppose the media is going to go back over when MoBama used to wear rags to campaign events cause she was "a woman of the people."

Didn't think so. 

What about that goodwill dress she wore somewhere - wonder if that's on Air Force One waiting to be worn reused by Her Excellency?.

Again, sadly, no. The American people were hoodwinked while the media cheered it on.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: thundley4 on December 27, 2009, 05:30:14 PM
'Chelle said that Lord Zero considers Hawaii hiw home and that is why they went there. What about Kenya?  Does he not realize how much a stay in home country  would help their economy?  :tongue:
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Ladywinter on December 27, 2009, 06:05:00 PM
BO = "kid in a candy store".  Maybe he'll OD on the candy before his 3 years are up... :innocent:
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Hawkgirl on December 28, 2009, 07:44:07 PM
So, not only are taxpayers paying for his vacation...but his whole entourage as well???  He sure likes the perks of being President.. :whatever:
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Inga on December 28, 2009, 08:45:00 PM
It seems as if he gets more vacations then office time. He may not know what his office looks like, since he averages at least a vacation a month. Heck, my great great grand kids are going to have to pay for his term, too. What a great life to look forward to. So not fair.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: alohabyana on December 29, 2009, 12:58:08 AM
I live in Kailua, Hawaii, not far from where Obama is spending his Christmas vacation.  He is staying at the Castle Estate, a beachfront mansion at the end of Kailua Beach.  I just got back from spending Christmas on the mainland and don't like what I'm having to deal with in our little beach town - traffic congestion on our two lane streets (It took me 35 minutes to get home from the post office due to the detours around where he is staying, and it usually only takes me 10 minutes.  He and his entourage must have been leaving to go somewhere.) I don't like seeing boats with machine guns in the canal close to my house and out in the water near Castle Estate.  (I wonder how much it costed to bring them to Hawaii and how they got them here.)  I went on my early morning jog today and was stopped by the Secret Service before I got to the end of the "public" beach.  Of all the places in the world to spend Christmas, he picked our little beach community.  I'll be glad when he's gone and hope he finds somewhere else next year.  This is the second year he rented the Castle Estate for his Christmas vacation.  (I guess I should say "the American people" rented the Castle Estate - not Obama.)  During the campaign he rented another beachfront mansion on Kailua Beach. 
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: debk on December 29, 2009, 10:22:31 AM
boats with machine guns in the canal close to my house and out in the water near Castle Estate.  (I wonder how much it costed to bring them to Hawaii and how they got them here.) 


Same way they get anything to anywhere Obama travels....those big huge C-??? whatever they are airplanes. They put his limos, helicopters, humvees, etc in them.

Most presidents, with the exception of Clinton...went to their homes for vacation. Reagan went to California to his ranch, Bush 41 went to Kennebunkport to his home, Bush 43 went to Crawford to his ranch....they had places for the SS to stay, they entertained more at home so as to not disrupt the communities. All of them, including Clinton, seemed happy...and content with... spending time at Camp David.

And they were skewered by the press and the liberals any time they went "home"....

But hey....Obama has the combination to money the printing press and all he needs to do is order more printed... :censored:
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Thor on December 29, 2009, 12:16:25 PM
I guess that people have forgotten about his trip to Paris to buy his daughter a dress. Someone was saying that he also spends $130/lb on beef to eat at the White House (?) His decadent lifestyle is way overboard. We, the Citizens of this country, need  to put a stop to his lavish lifestyle.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: debk on December 29, 2009, 12:21:21 PM
I guess that people have forgotten about his trip to Paris to buy his daughter a dress. Someone was saying that he also spends $130/lb on beef to eat at the White House (?) His decadent lifestyle is way overboard. We, the Citizens of this country, need  to put a stop to his lavish lifestyle.

Trip to Paris to buy a kid a dress?  :o
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Thor on December 29, 2009, 12:29:25 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/06/05/obama_family_vacation_to_paris_raises_some_eyebrows/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1191392/Barack-Obama-turns-sightseer-takes-wife-children-Paris.html


OK, he did go to Normandy, but he also snubbed President Sarkozy by turning down a state dinner with him. I guess that this was for the D-Day commemoration and an included family vacation.
Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: vesta111 on December 29, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
  REALLY, all this self rightness's is  :rotf:

Were my hubby to become president WOW.

First thing I would do is to rip up the floors and replace the swimming pool in the White House.

I would never travel outside the WH except for one of those old fashioned buggy with horses naturally, clip clopping its way to the airport. My dear Husband the president would at my encouragement work a 8 hour 5 day a week job and weekends travel about the world just for supper.

For 4 years no one would actually see my neck from all the Asian Gold Jewelry  and what not dripping off my body.   

All 18 of my at tendents would have to wear 18 century clothing while on MY property. 

Yeah, anyone of us with a job with unlimited experience account is going to use what is given.  Why the heck not, I don't expect to see the President clipping coupons for food buying for a State Dinner.

How can we complain about the freebies we give to any elected official.   We gave them the stuff in the first place, not their problem if they use it for all it is worth.

The problem is Obama is just a little Bowl Weevil looking for a home.  Some day he will settle down somewhere but for now he is free to roam the Planet.



 

Title: Re: ABC Details Obama's $4,000/Day, Two-Week Christmas Vacation
Post by: Mustang on December 29, 2009, 07:31:32 PM
"Limousine Liberal" comes to mind when reading about this.

 :bird: