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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on December 24, 2009, 09:07:45 PM
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Well, they aren't liking activist judges.
Newsjock (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 06:46 PM
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Judge strikes down Richmond's Chevron tax
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
In a blow to financially strapped Richmond and a $20 million victory for Chevron Corp., a Contra Costa County judge has struck down a tax approved by local voters last year that assessed the company for the value of the crude oil it refines in the city.
Measure T is unconstitutional because the tax is out of proportion to the business Chevron does in Richmond and the services it receives there, said Superior Court Judge David Flinn.
He said the tax also violates state law because it is based on the value of materials that Chevron uses in its refinery. Only the state can impose such a "use tax," Flinn said.
He said Chevron was entitled to a refund.
... City voters passed Measure T with a 51.5 percent majority in November 2008. It applied to all manufacturers but was aimed primarily at Chevron, the nation's second-largest oil company.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/1...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4198120
bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 06:51 PM
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1. Rulings should be ignored from activist judges who legislate from the bench.
Collect the tax anyway.
Let's bring back the ban on abortions. :cheersmate:
avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 07:12 PM
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9. I like how you think.
lol
So do I. We can reverse those rulings where judges have declared gay marriage to be valid.
Mudoria (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 06:54 PM
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2. Seems a reasonable ruling based on the law
according to the article. Appears the state would have to change the law for the city to tax Chevron.
Don't try and bring reason to the Island. :mental:
FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 06:56 PM
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3. Chevron Corp has been debating leaving Richmond CA
because of this crap
That would mean the loss of 3 - 4000 good paying jobs Richmond and Contra Costa County desperately need as well as $10s of $Millions in community grants Chevron donates to the community and an additional Several $Million in anual property taxes to the state
Dimrats are good at driving businesses away.
Downwinder (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 06:59 PM
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4. How far is the refinery above sea level? n/t
Who cares. You do realize that almost all oil is below sea level in the ground, right?
From there it breaks down to a lot of squibble-squabbling and much flapping of arms at one another.
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Asshats are never happy.
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I firmly believe that most of the inhabitants of the island spend most of their waking hours looking for things to be enraged about.
All that hate is going to burn them up. :fuelfire:
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Towards the "end" as it appears with the insane posting pattern they use.
greengestalt (102 posts) Thu Dec-24-09 10:15 PM
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36. We need to protest by Jury Nullification
It's used all the time, such as in inner cities to keep "Gangbangers" on the streets. In short, there's tons of precedent for it.
Look up Jury Nullification, pretend you know nothing about it, but then also consult a lawyer so that if they try to punish you for it, you'll sue the city/state for millions for "Human rights violations"
How many people FILL the jails? How many could you let off without hurting, only helping society? About all of them.
Most notably:
1. Tax/Fine protesters.
2. Old hippies and other "420" crowd with the wrong plants in their basements... "I support Medical Marijuana and I think I'm developing Glaucoma myself."
3. People who did "Victimless" crimes, like drugs, prostitutes.
4. People who steal, but ONLY from big businesses -especially- "the poor single mother who steals food to feed her baby" who is sickeningly much more common. Theft is wrong, and indeed ideally should be punished, but there's a "Highest" authority to settle that score, in the world of here and now there should indeed be a 'hierarchy' of what is and is not seen as a crime.
----Social Banditry: "I never robbed a poor man yet, nor any tradesman I beset. But I robbed Lords and Ladies fine, and I carried the gold home to my Heart's Design."
5. A vile drunken brute who stabs another drunken brute and both are not innocent. "Thanks for the Darwin Award, maybe we'll also thank someone who gives YOU a Darwin Award next drunken brawl."
6. People who might be guilty of nasty stuff, but keep it outside the USA and only in fantasy IN the USA. "Not Guilty. With all due respect your honor, we feel far more 'raped' by you letting off that financial parasite last week. Chester M. Goes to Asia when he has the itch for real, the rest is on his Hard Drive and in his sick head. To Chester M. Keep it in your computer, your head or outside the USA's borders or we'll form a lynch mob for you."
----To anyone screaming bloody murder over the last part, take note that such a 'trade' feeds people and keeps them alive and the few places it's stopped there has been mass starvation since all the "Moralist Crusaders" just tossed a few Chick Tracts and left once they achieved their mission. Then the local Generalismo re-opened the thing once the heat was down cause he needed the bribe money.
I defy anyone to explain what that is saying period much less in regards to the op. :lmao:
It is almost a certainty as well on a long thread over there that some gibberish post like that will appear proving once again what a group of super intellectuals they are to behold. :mental: