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Title: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: thundley4 on December 22, 2009, 09:36:52 PM
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amborin   (1000+ posts)           Tue Dec-22-09 05:43 PM
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Obama: "I didn't campaign on the public option"
   

Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 06:14 PM by amborin


Obama said the public option "has become a source of ideological contention between the left and right." But, he added, "I didn't campaign on the public option"

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In the 2008 Obama-Biden health care plan on the campaign’s website, candidate Obama promised that "any American will have the opportunity to enroll in new public plan." <2008>

– During a speech at the American Medical Association, President Obama told thousands of doctors that one of the plans included in the new health insurance exchanges "needs to be a public option that will give people a broader range of choices and inject competition into the health care market." <6/15/09>

– While speaking to the nation during his weekly address, the President said that "any plan" he signs "must include...a public option." <7/17/09>

– During a conference call with progressive bloggers, the President said he continues "to believe that a robust public option would be the best way to go." <7/20/09>

– Obama told NBC’s David Gregory that a public option "should be a part of this ," while rebuking claims that the plan was "dead." <9/20/09>

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"My plan builds on and improves our current insurance system, which most Americans continue to rely upon, and creates a new public health plan for those currently without coverage. Under my plan, Americans will be able to choose to maintain their current coverage if they choose to. For those without health insurance I will establish a new public insurance program, and provide subsides to afford care for those who need them. "



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/22/818090/-Presid... .-


video of Sept 29, 2009 speech to Congress here:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7300576

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AllentownJake   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 05:44 PM
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1. WHAT THE ****!

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jgraz   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 05:44 PM
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2. And the weak sauce excuses just keep on coming

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ixion   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 05:45 PM
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3. and there it is, then
   
'nuff said. Promise broken.

Which one?  DADT, No tax hikes, Public Option?

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Cant trust em   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 05:45 PM
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4. Seems like a semantic argument to me.
   
Like everything before the election was campaigning. After that it's not campaigning, it's just publicly supporting something.

PBO hasn't stopped campaigning yet.

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Stinky The Clown   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 05:56 PM
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13. It is a "meaning of is" argument. File it under "who the **** cares"?

Everyone that voted for the liar, should care.

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Cant trust em   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 05:57 PM
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14. Totally agree. This story is a non-issue to me.
   
This doesn't effect any of the bottom line.

You've accepted the fact that he lied and there is no Free Pony coming?

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walldude (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 06:32 PM
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39. In my house we call that LYING YOUR ASS OFF
   
Semantics my ass. When you say something, then go and do the opposite, then say "I never said that" we call that being a LIAR. We used to call Republicans on it all the time, used to laugh about how they were so stupid to try and lie about something that any 10 year old could dispute with a 3 second search on You Tube. Sorry but I never expected that shit from Obama.

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chimpymustgo   (1000+ posts)           Tue Dec-22-09 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #39
64. Exactly. Our President is a practiced and facile LIAR.

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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts)           Tue Dec-22-09 06:35 PM
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41. proves that the Republicans aren't the only ones who attempt revisionist history

No, it's almost always been the DimRats that do that.

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bvar22   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 05:57 PM
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15. Uh-Oh....caught fibbing again.
   
Doesn't he know we have youtube?

THIS will leave another mark.

I noticed the True Hopers were working very hard to spin this.
Don't they ever get dizzy?

This isn't even as close as "Depends on what the definition of 'is' is".

This is the inevitable results of embracing Triangulation as a Political Philosophy.
It is totally devoid of a foundation based on Principles.

I'm waiting for the number of campaign youtubes where Obama is caught on video campaigning on a Public Option "like Medicare".

Given time , those youtube videos will disappear. Lord Zero now has a Cyber-Security Czar.

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saracat   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 05:57 PM
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16. I think I may be ill. Next he will say he didn't campaign against mandates!
   
Candidate Obama seems to have had a different belief system than president Obama. Just like the attack on Dean, after he had asked people to hold his feet to the fire, this isn't going to go down well.

Are you sure you want to be sick under 0BamaCare?  He might Kevorkian make house calls for dissenters.

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Christa   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 05:59 PM
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17. WTF?
   
Does he think we are idiots?

No, he knows you are.

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IndianaGreen   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #17
56. Yes, he thinks we are idiots that won't do anything about it.

And he is right isn't he?  Next year, and in 2012 you'll still vote a straight DimRats ticket.

Much more whining and impotent gnashing of teeth and flapping of arms around the fire.
Title: Re: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 22, 2009, 09:44:26 PM
These DUmmies are all racists. They are denying the divinity and infallibility of the obamessiah. For over a year now, that has been the definition of racism.
Title: Re: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on December 22, 2009, 09:58:06 PM
Wow. It only took the Dummies 12 months to figure out what we knew 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: Airwolf on December 23, 2009, 12:01:41 AM
How is that hope and change working out for you DUmmies?
Title: Re: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: Carl on December 23, 2009, 05:49:54 AM
Never fear DUmbasses..the fool is well on his way to destroying the country as you hoped.
The only change you are getting is having to accept that you will still always be peasants and serfs.

Title: Re: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 23, 2009, 06:43:56 AM
Wow. It only took the Dummies 12 months to figure out what we knew 2 years ago.

Makes you wonder why they raised such a stink about Joe Wilson and "You lie!"
Title: Re: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: dandi on December 23, 2009, 07:50:50 AM
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walldude (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #4
39. In my house we call that LYING YOUR ASS OFF
   
Semantics my ass. When you say something, then go and do the opposite, then say "I never said that" we call that being a LIAR. We used to call Republicans on it all the time, used to laugh about how they were so stupid to try and lie about something that any 10 year old could dispute with a 3 second search on You Tube. Sorry but I never expected that shit from Obama.

Really?  You never expected lying and revisionist history from a useless, common street thug that never had to work for anything?  Are you serious?

Tell me, smartest-person-in-the-room liberal, how does it feel to finally be at a point where us knuckledraggers were two years ago? 

You are way behind the curve on this one, DUmbass, and that pretty much makes you what we've also known all along:  a complete and total ****ing retard.

Somebody, please, throw a chlorine tablet into the gene pool...
Title: Re: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: Texacon on December 23, 2009, 09:04:55 AM
Sounds like DU needs to have another amnesty day where they can all change their user names!

KC
Title: Re: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: TheSarge on December 23, 2009, 09:11:29 AM
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bvar22   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 05:57 PM
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15. Uh-Oh....caught fibbing again.
   
Doesn't he know we have youtube?

If the MSM doesn't report it...it's like it NEVER happened.

You idiots just don't get it do you?

You've been played. 


Every politically correct "rule" that you Libs try to force down everyone's throats has been used against you to get an inexperienced...Community Organizing STATIST elected into office.

Can't criticize his lack of experience or I'll get called a racist. 

Can't point out he's saying one thing to one group and something differernt to another cause I'll get called a racist.

Can't ask about his ties to a radical 60's terrorist or I'll get called a Republican.

Can't discuss the problems I have voting for this guy on my favorite political discussion forum or I'll get banned.

All of that was used against you morons to silence any fears or doubts you had about electing this man to President.

And NOW you're suddenly shocked...SHOCKED that he's not doing one damn thing he promised during the campaign?

Again let me ask you Libs...how does it feel?
Title: Re: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: diesel driver on December 23, 2009, 10:21:19 AM
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Christa   (1000+ posts)             Tue Dec-22-09 05:59 PM
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17. WTF?
   
Does he think we are idiots?

Yes, he does....    :banghead:
Useful Idiots....    :loser:
Title: Re: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: Randy on December 23, 2009, 10:40:50 AM
Dearest DUmmies,

If he's breathin' he's lyin'.
Welcome to awareness.

Randy
Title: Re: Obama is Lying !!!!!!!!
Post by: Oceander on December 23, 2009, 08:50:14 PM
Hey, if his mouth is open, then you know he's lying:

(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx221/B_Oceander/Buttons/Lying_sm.gif)