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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on December 22, 2009, 12:59:14 PM
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erni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-22-09 01:22 PM
Original message
Hamsher Proves She's Not Progressive - Violates Principles to Go On Fox
Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 01:24 PM by berni_mccoy
Jame Hamsher has promoted herself as a leader of the progressive movement and supporter of health care reform. In her recent claims to want to kill the HCR bill and suggest siding with teabaggers to do so, she's now promoting her message on Fox News. Video here (sorry, it's a fox link) http://video.foxnews.com/12731977/first-do-no-harm .
This violates her very own principle that she used to attack Democrats with when she accused Clinton of legitimizing Fox:
http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/05/clinton-agrees-to-fox... /
Fox is not a news outlet, it’s an openly partisan opinion factory and the Democrats should not be legitimizing them (and allowing them to recruit Democratic viewers to propagandize to) by doing this.
So it's ok for progressives like Hamsher to legitimize Fox, but not for Democrats. I wonder who she thought she was talking to via Fox when she went on there. Was it progressives who watch Fox? Democrats who watch Fox? She probably thinks it's ok to legitimize Fox since she probably doesn't consider herself a Democrat. I never have considered her one either. Then again, I've never felt she's a progressive either. Maybe that explains why she's willing to side with teabaggers and Fox to attack the progressive Democrats who are now saying we should pass this bill.
I don`t know who this is or really care but was a fun thread to see them squabble.
berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-22-09 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. Glad you admit it the shallowness of your own cause then.
DJ13 (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-22-09 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. So liberalism isnt your cause?
Thanks for admitting you're a corporate lackey.
Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-22-09 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. how much do you get per post berni?
Is it enough to [pay for mandated insurance?
berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-22-09 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #23
29. Less than you do I'm sure. Only disgusting individuals like yourself get paid to post.
I always chuckle when they think that anyone would pay someone to post at the DUmp. :mental:
The main reason for bringing this over and why it is important to know where the left really is.
frazzled (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-22-09 01:49 PM
Response to Original message
35. She's not progressive because she's ...
arguing from this strange perspective of individual rights versus the common good ... and that definitely ain't progressive. In fact, they sound like right-libertarian talking points -- and they are not even factually correct, to boot. They're misleading scare tactics.
e.g. Hamsher: "Forces you to pay up to 8% of your income to private insurance corporations -- whether you want to or not." "If you refuse to buy the insurance, you'll have to pay penalties of up to 2% of your annual income to the IRS." etc. etc. etc.
The anti-tax, me-me teabaggers couldn't put it better or be more deceptive. This is NOT liberal.
I don't care if she goes on Fox or not. I do care that people are being fooled into thinking hers is somehow a "progressive" position. Look, my disaffection with JH's politics goes back about 4 years. She's kind of like the Bev Harris of the left right now, and I predict that either the mask will slip off or she'll become our very own Christopher Hitchens within the next few years.
That is scary and from where O and the libs in Congress stand.
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Well, it is quite a squabble over there. I just brought an old shoe over:
jgraz (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-22-09 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #116
118. Oh, FFS. Have you been paying attention AT ALL?
The majority of the country is IN FAVOR of the Public Option. Polls range from 60-80 percent positive.
And once again, nobody asked for a link or source. Just lonely Adbot finishing up the thread.
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Well, it is quite a squabble over there. I just brought an old shoe over:
And once again, nobody asked for a link or source. Just lonely Adbot finishing up the thread.
Yep so much in favor that they have to bribe (it may be legal but that is what it is) Senators for votes,schedule them in the wee hours of the night and insert wording to make it hard or impossible to repeal.
I don`t hate easy because it eats one up but at this moment I truly hate these bastards that are destroying everything this country was founded on.