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Title: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: CC27 on December 22, 2009, 10:28:34 AM
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POLITICO has learned that Rep. Parker Griffith, a freshman Democrat from Alabama, will announce today that he’s switching parties to become a Republican.

According to a senior GOP aide familiar with the decision, the announcement will take place in this afternoon in his home district in northern Alabama.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30896.html
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Oceander on December 22, 2009, 10:29:29 AM
Holey Moses!  Please don't let this be just another rumor planted by Rahm Emanuel.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 22, 2009, 10:33:07 AM
The Politico article mentioned that he's a radiation oncologist, and his medical background is the authority for his stand against the health care "reform." 

I think that he knows that a political tsunami is coming . . . that will make 1994 look like a low tide.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: franksolich on December 22, 2009, 10:37:12 AM
The Politico article mentioned that he's a radiation oncologist, and his medical background is the authority for his stand against the health care "reform." 

I think that he knows that a political tsunami is coming . . . that will make 1994 look like a low tide.

One has to admit that takes some political courage, whatever courage is found in politics, to change from being a member of the majority to being a member of the minority.

He's going to lose a whole lot of goodies doing that, including access to Bela Pelosi.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: thundley4 on December 22, 2009, 10:50:16 AM
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He has bucked the Democratic leadership on nearly all of its major domestic initiatives, including the stimulus package, health care legislation, the cap-and trade energy bill and financial regulatory reform.

I don't think those votes make him a republican, just someone  who can see the reality of the damage those things will inflict on the US.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 22, 2009, 11:15:58 AM
I don't think those votes make him a republican, just someone  who can see the reality of the damage those things will inflict on the US.

Sometimes known as a southern conservative democrat......a very rare endangered species that won't be found on the endangered species list.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: NHSparky on December 22, 2009, 11:16:54 AM
How long will Keef Overbite spend on this issue tonight, apart from labeling the guy worst person in the world?  Hell, I might risk watching tonight just for the sputter value.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: DixieBelle on December 22, 2009, 11:18:17 AM
^wear a face shield.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Hawkgirl on December 22, 2009, 11:18:43 AM
I just saw this breaking on Fox....he's not comfortable with the wheeling and dealing going on in the democrat party...Good for him...finally a politician with cojones.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: NHSparky on December 22, 2009, 11:20:49 AM
^wear a face shield.

ROFL...yeah, even through the cable and TV screen, it could get pretty nasty.  And NO, I'm not going to bother waiting to see what Meaty Fingers Madcow has to say.  My tolerance for liberal BS in one night is still being built up--I can handle one or the other any given night, but not both.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: TheSarge on December 22, 2009, 11:28:10 AM
How long will Keef Overbite spend on this issue tonight, apart from labeling the guy worst person in the world?  Hell, I might risk watching tonight just for the sputter value.

LOL! save yourself the grief and check NewsBusters tomorrow.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 22, 2009, 11:49:14 AM
One has to admit that takes some political courage, whatever courage is found in politics, to change from being a member of the majority to being a member of the minority.

He's going to lose a whole lot of goodies doing that, including access to Bela Pelosi.

Supposedly, Pelosi is one of the reasons Griffith switched.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: thundley4 on December 22, 2009, 11:55:01 AM
Supposedly, Pelosi is one of the reasons Griffith switched.

Yep, he has said that he wouldn't vote for her to remain as leader in the house. She is to divisive.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: The Village Idiot on December 22, 2009, 11:56:10 AM
Parker Windsock Griffith



Parker Weathervane Griffith
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Ladywinter on December 22, 2009, 11:56:43 AM
How long will Keef Overbite spend on this issue tonight, apart from labeling the guy worst person in the world?  Hell, I might risk watching tonight just for the sputter value.

I have been tempted to tune-in at times just to see the "false spin".  But then I think - why give him/them the ratings, even for 1 night!  gawd
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Ladywinter on December 22, 2009, 12:01:13 PM
The Politico article mentioned that he's a radiation oncologist, and his medical background is the authority for his stand against the health care "reform."  

I think that he knows that a political tsunami is coming . . . that will make 1994 look like a low tide.

If he does indeed make the "switch", will the vote count go to 59?  How does this impact the HC bill's final vote?  Or does it??  Or do they only need 51 votes now.  I grasping here...
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Odin's Hand on December 22, 2009, 12:04:51 PM
If he does indeed make the "switch", will the vote count go to 59?  How does this impact the HC bill's final vote?  Or does it??  Or do they only need 51 votes now.  I grasping here...

He's not a Senator. He's a Rep. from AL-5th District.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Oceander on December 22, 2009, 12:06:16 PM
I don't think those votes make him a republican, just someone  who can see the reality of the damage those things will inflict on the US.

Which makes him an enemy of my enemy, which makes him my friend.  We're in triage-land, not academic-land, so whether he's fit to wear the label "Republican" or not, if he's a friend, he's welcome to the club.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Oceander on December 22, 2009, 12:08:27 PM
If he does indeed make the "switch", will the vote count go to 59?  How does this impact the HC bill's final vote?  Or does it??  Or do they only need 51 votes now.  I grasping here...

As someone else said, he's a Representative in the House, not a Senate, so it doesn't necessarily affect any Senate votes (although it might give one or two cold(er) feet than he or she had before); however, it does suggest that Antsy-Pantsy Pelosi is losing control on her caucus in the House, and that she may not be able to muster the votes needed to pass the final bill.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Ladywinter on December 22, 2009, 12:11:19 PM
He's not a Senator. He's a Rep. from AL-5th District.
Oh.  My bad.  Now that I re-read the subject title it does say Rep. Griffith...  Just got excited there - for a moment.

Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 22, 2009, 12:20:57 PM
Yep, he has said that he wouldn't vote for her to remain as leader in the house. She is to divisive.

Even though he did vote for her to be Speaker way back in January.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Thor on December 22, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
Now we have another F'n RINO in our Congress. IMO, if he truly had any cojones, he would have stayed in his party and just voted "NO".
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Karin on December 22, 2009, 12:26:46 PM
Well, BSS, maybe he's done some soul-searching since then.  He is a freshman, after all.  They all seem scared like rabbits when they first get there.  Look how Gillibrand lost any spine she may have started with.  

On the radio news this noon, they announced this.  Some spokesweasel sniffed and said "this doesn't change the House at all."  But look how close some of those bills have been!  217-215, things of that nature.  

Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: debk on December 22, 2009, 12:30:41 PM
I think it's important to note he's a physician.

Contrary to what Obama and his MB of I want the public to believe...there are many many fewer doctors who belong to the American Medical Association than those that don't.

Yes he has the support of the AMA, but he doesn't have the support of the majority of physicians.

Young people go into medicine for a variety of reasons....they want to help people, they like science or the complexity of surgery....but mainly...they do it for the money. If they aren't in it for the money...they go into research.

Doctors are going to get hit incredibly hard by the health care bill.

They are going to have to pay more in taxes because of their income level.....

....there's not going to be any tort reform, which means their malpractice insurance will continue to climb...

while getting much less money from Medicare/Medicaid that already don't cover the physician costs in lab fees, surgical time, etc.

Congress is not doing anything to stop physician or hospital costs....no matter what they say...because as long as nothing is done about tort reform....medical costs will continue to rise and passed on to the consumer.

There are several physicians in Congress....13 in House and 2 in Senate.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 22, 2009, 12:52:04 PM
I think it's important to note he's a physician.

Contrary to what Obama and his MB of I want the public to believe...there are many many fewer doctors who belong to the American Medical Association than those that don't.

Yes he has the support of the AMA, but he doesn't have the support of the majority of physicians.

Young people go into medicine for a variety of reasons....they want to help people, they like science or the complexity of surgery....but mainly...they do it for the money. If they aren't in it for the money...they go into research.

Doctors are going to get hit incredibly hard by the health care bill.

They are going to have to pay more in taxes because of their income level.....

....there's not going to be any tort reform, which means their malpractice insurance will continue to climb...

while getting much less money from Medicare/Medicaid that already don't cover the physician costs in lab fees, surgical time, etc.

Congress is not doing anything to stop physician or hospital costs....no matter what they say...because as long as nothing is done about tort reform....medical costs will continue to rise and passed on to the consumer.

There are several physicians in Congress....13 in House and 2 in Senate.

I heard something that 40 percent of the doctors practicing medicine today will leave medicine if this thing passes.  Don't try to tell me that health care won't be rationed as a result . . .
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Carl on December 22, 2009, 01:16:35 PM
I heard something that 40 percent of the doctors practicing medicine today will leave medicine if this thing passes.  Don't try to tell me that health care won't be rationed as a result . . .

There is so many ways this thing will destroy the country it is gut wrenching to watch.
The next thing on the agenda I am betting is an amnesty bill called anything but yet will be just that.
Get your subsidized health care here and make sure you register to vote there.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Ladywinter on December 22, 2009, 01:19:42 PM
Young people go into medicine for a variety of reasons....they want to help people, they like science or the complexity of surgery....but mainly...they do it for the money. If they aren't in it for the money...they go into research.

Approximately 4 months ago on Beck, Glenn had a panel of doctors come onto his show.  This panel of doctors were split between "seasoned" and "green".  The "green" young doctors were for the HC reform bill passing!  The seasoned doctors could only argue their case and shake their heads.

debk:  You are "right-on" about tort reform.  Without that being controlled, our doctors will be run out of business. I've said it again, and again to libs.  Tort reform and opening state lines would have been the answer. Quick, doable, and would not cost us 1+ trillion.  This HC bill is simply to obtain power and control - not to help anyone in our Country.!
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: debk on December 22, 2009, 01:42:48 PM
Approximately 4 months ago on Beck, Glenn had a panel of doctors come onto his show.  This panel of doctors were split between "seasoned" and "green".  The "green" young doctors were for the HC reform bill passing!  The seasoned doctors could only argue their case and shake their heads.

debk:  You are "right-on" about tort reform.  Without that being controlled, our doctors will be run out of business. I've said it again, and again to libs.  Tort reform and opening state lines would have been the answer. Quick, doable, and would not cost us 1+ trillion.  This HC bill is simply to obtain power and control - not to help anyone in our Country.!


In another lifetime....I married in to multi-generational family of physicians....starting with my ex's great grandfather who was a physician in Holland. His grandfather, father, both uncles were doctors. He is, brother in law, nephew, cousins' husbands. The only male cousin did not go into medicine, though he's a pharmaceutical rep....and neither will my son. A couple of the female cousins are in the med field and my daugher's an 2-ray tech.

While they like the art of medicine...they are in it for the money...at least the last 2 generations are.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Doc Savage on December 22, 2009, 01:45:52 PM
Just another politician more concerned about keeping his title than growing a set.  If I had voted for him I would be PO'd.  It seems to me that these clowns are more concerned about their congressional careers then they are about doing the right thing.  He knew that Pelosi was the dem speaker when he ran, and now he is upset?  Please....is he am amateur?  He got elected as a Conservative democrat, but now he wants to be a republican?  All you get from a conservative Democrat is a liberal republican, and those we can do without.  
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: NHSparky on December 22, 2009, 01:59:28 PM
Now we have another F'n RINO in our Congress. IMO, if he truly had any cojones, he would have stayed in his party and just voted "NO".

He did vote no on the health care bill, as well as porkulus.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: docstew on December 22, 2009, 02:28:37 PM
I heard something that 40 percent of the doctors practicing medicine today will leave medicine if this thing passes.  Don't try to tell me that health care won't be rationed as a result . . .

any over/under on when the 0bama Civil Defense Corps shows up at their doors to march them to work at gunpoint?
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: rustybayonet on December 22, 2009, 02:32:22 PM
Can only speak for my family Dr., he stated alot of his patients are medicare and his office is worried.  In my case earlier in Dec. I had two x-rays of my back and shoulder, plus a MRI of the lower back.  he shares as small office with three other MD's, plus they have a lab, x-ray and MRI imaging on site [seperately owned and operated].  Got the copy of the bill from Blue Cross Blue Advantage for the MRI $1,274.00 charged, Blue paid 361.82 of it - my co-pay was -0-.  Come the first of the year all that changes, I'll have a co-pay [still with Blue Advantage], plus they don't know what the government is going to pay.  Glad I've been getting most all of the stuff old farts have checked before the idiots in DC make their changes, i.e. physical, eyes, blood work, etc.. At least they say I'm good for the next year.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Karin on December 22, 2009, 03:40:59 PM
As an aside, let me just slip in here that lord zero's Rasmussen index is the lowest EVER at -21.  Total approval at 44, the lowest, and in generic congressional, GOP is now 8 points ahead of Dems.   
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Lacarnut on December 22, 2009, 04:12:12 PM
Can only speak for my family Dr., he stated alot of his patients are medicare and his office is worried.  In my case earlier in Dec. I had two x-rays of my back and shoulder, plus a MRI of the lower back.  he shares as small office with three other MD's, plus they have a lab, x-ray and MRI imaging on site [seperately owned and operated].  Got the copy of the bill from Blue Cross Blue Advantage for the MRI $1,274.00 charged, Blue paid 361.82 of it - my co-pay was -0-.  Come the first of the year all that changes, I'll have a co-pay [still with Blue Advantage], plus they don't know what the government is going to pay.  Glad I've been getting most all of the stuff old farts have checked before the idiots in DC make their changes, i.e. physical, eyes, blood work, etc.. At least they say I'm good for the next year.

I am in the same boat. Had testing on my ears because of dizziness an ringing. My Medicare supplemental plan refused to pay on some of the testing. So, rationing has already started. Got my United Health Care card in the mail yesterday for 2010. My copay went up from $15$ to $25 to see a specialist. I have a private pay option
plan where I can go to any doctor or hospital in the US. The thought of that changing scares the living daylights out of me. If a government option passes, I will probably leave the US. 
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 22, 2009, 04:20:46 PM

I heard something that 40 percent of the doctors practicing medicine today will leave medicine if this thing passes.  Don't try to tell me that health care won't be rationed as a result . . .

Just makes more room for muslim indian doctors.
Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Crazy Horse on December 22, 2009, 05:08:07 PM
Just makes more room for muslim indian doctors.

80% of those in India are Hindu

Title: Re: Rep. Parker Griffith switches to GOP
Post by: Oceander on December 22, 2009, 05:37:17 PM
He did vote no on the health care bill, as well as porkulus.

That's right, and as the old saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.  And, quite, frankly, as much as some voters might be p.o.'ed, it's better that a politician not happy with the party he's in switch sides voluntarily rather than get kicked out with a fight - look at it from our point of view vis-a-vis Specter:  he did us more good than bad by finally showing his true marxist colours and voluntarily leaving rather than forcing us to have to kick him out.  Now we can get a good candidate out of a competitive primary without having to worry about not ruffling the "senior senator's" feathers, and then well and truly kick his little marxist ass so hard his intestines pop out of his mouth.