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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: thundley4 on December 17, 2009, 07:50:27 AM
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Twenty Republican senators have requested that the Senate Armed Services Committee launch an investigation into reports that the Obama White House threatened to close Nebraska's Offutt Air Force base unless Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson fell into line on health care. Those reports first appeared on this blog. In the letter to Senators Levin and McCain, the committee chairman and ranking member, the 20 ask that "a hearing be held as to whether the BRAC process has been compromised."
Meanwhile, both Nelson and the White House strenuously deny the allegation. A statement from White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer asserts “This rumor is absolutely false, as the people spreading it well know. This is nothing but a cynical, crass political game that is designed to maintain the status quo. Let’s be clear: the people spreading these falsehoods think nothing is wrong with a system under which families and businesses continue to bear the brunt of skyrocketing costs, insurance companies are allowed to discriminate and drop at will, and thousands of Americans lose their coverage every single day.â€
They protest a little too much. I do not know this story is "absolutely false." To the contrary, I'm confident it's true. Twenty senators are now calling for an investigation, and each is presumably pretty well sourced in the Senate. If the charges are "absolutely false," maybe the White House will encourage Senate Democrats to call this Republican bluff. I won't hold my breath.
The Weekly Standard (http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/12/20_gop_senators_say_investigat.asp)
If the rumor is false, then an investigation will prove that. No reason to stall or deny the investigation is there?
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Twenty? That's five short of a quarter. Besides, it's a waste of The People's valuable time.
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Twenty? That's five short of a quarter. Besides, it's a waste of The People's valuable time.
Hi,
Only time when it is a waste of time is when the charge is against the libs. Were the same charge being made against Bush, they would be tried, convicted and hung already.
This is kind of like trying to get Barney Frank to pay his taxes......
regards,
5412
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I'm all for wasting the People's valuable time. It's the money I'm worried about. The sooner the clock runs out on the Bolsheviks in charge, the better.
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I'm all for wasting the People's valuable time. It's the money I'm worried about. The sooner the clock runs out on the Bolsheviks in charge, the better.
Hi,
They ran Palin off by distracting her with dozens of frivilous lawsuits........attack, attack, attack the libs in charge. The more they have to focus on the Lewinsky attacks the less damage they can do between now and when we can fire them.
regards,
5412
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I'll begin to lend this rumor a smidgen of credence when Nelson stops denying it ever happened, and we get a name to the "unnamed senate aide" who "leaked" it. Offut is way to important a base to even consider trying to pressure the BRAC to close, and I highly doubt that the Pres is dumb enough not to know that, and risk this political shit storm on a baseless threat.
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I highly doubt that the Pres is dumb enough not to know that.
I think he is. :p
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I'll begin to lend this rumor a smidgen of credence when Nelson stops denying it ever happened, and we get a name to the "unnamed senate aide" who "leaked" it. Offut is way to important a base to even consider trying to pressure the BRAC to close, and I highly doubt that the Pres is dumb enough not to know that, and risk this political shit storm on a baseless threat.
Hi,
I saw the guy who broke the story on Glenn Beck yesterday. He got the call about it, then called his contact back and it was reaffirmed and was given additional information. I do not believe he was making up the story. Beck then confirmed the story from two or three other sources.
BO is so egotistical he thinks he can get away with anything. Emmanuel probably had a lot to do with it. Look where BO came from, the governor tried to sell the senate seat for a million dollar bribe. The word in Chicago is the justice department jumped in because they did not want BO being implicated as part of it but there was some evidence and great suspicion about that too.
Senate rules are very clear, once a bill is being read it must be read in it's entirety. Yesterday the bill being read, the reader was interrupted by the senator who wrote it and he said he wanted to withdraw the bill, the president of the senate said OK and the reading of the bill was terminated. These people have been making up their own rules for so long they no longer seem to care.
I suspect Emmanuel made the threat with full support of Obama. What did the head of SEIU, who is the most frequent white house visitor say? "We will use the power of persuasion. If that does not work we will use the persuasion of power."
That for these folks is nothing more than business as usual, no different that the attacks made on Lieberman's wife, Palin's child, there is nothing they will not resort to in order to get their way.....including rigging ballot boxes, lies you name it, we have seen it now first hand for several years.
regards,
5412
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I'll begin to lend this rumor a smidgen of credence when Nelson stops denying it ever happened, and we get a name to the "unnamed senate aide" who "leaked" it. Offut is way to important a base to even consider trying to pressure the BRAC to close, and I highly doubt that the Pres is dumb enough not to know that, and risk this political shit storm on a baseless threat.
Doubtful it's a real threat. Not to say they didn't threaten him. Just that Offut will close when hell freezes over...
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Doubtful it's a real threat. Not to say they didn't threaten him. Just that Offut will close when hell freezes over...
No kidding.
I'm pretty sure I remember hearing on TV that jets scrambled from Offutt on 9/11.
I think Offutt was also were it was planned to take Bush if Washington came under attack.
I remember as a kid driving by there and even in the mid 70's .....living out in SW Omaha, Offutt was still spoken in "hushed tones"....
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Doubtful it's a real threat. Not to say they didn't threaten him. Just that Offut will close when hell freezes over...
Hi,
I doubt it is a real threat either.
With that being said, I THINK MUCH OF AMERICA IS MISSING THE POINT.
Whether it is real or not, isn't the real issue just how these people think?
They will stop at nothing to get their way.
Look at the facts.
1. Clinton used the CIA to gather political dirt on his opponents and used it when the Lewinsky issue came out.
2. They sent hundreds of operatives in Alaska to dig up dirt on Palin and when they could not find any they made it up, and the mainstream media picked it up and blared it out as though it was fact.
3. They are blatently buying off votes for the health care bill with millions, if not billions of our taxpayer dollars.
4. The fed, Geithner, Bernacke and all are flat lying to the American people about our economic situation.
5. They hold a hearing on global warming, Gore testifies and anyone with an opposing point of view is canceled and not allowed to speak. The house then passes their version of Cap and Trade.
6. The politics of personal destruction are out if full force for anyone who speaks out against them, from the president calling Fox not a real news organization, to the libs attacking the tea partiers and those who show up in town hall meetings.
I suspect we could fill ten pages with examples.
MY POINT IS THAT THE MEDIA SHOULD BE BLARING THIS STUFF TO THE PEOPLE. THEY THINK LIKE CHAVEZ FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, THEY THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW, ACT LIKE THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW AND NO ONE, OTHER THAN A FEW GOOD CONSERVATIVES SEEM TO CARE.
regards,
5412