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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: JohnnyReb on December 16, 2009, 11:00:08 AM
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Stolen from a site that gave no link.
A Republican candidate for Congress in Minnesota says "a huge marriage penalty for the American middle class" is hidden in both the House and Senate healthcare bills.
Former Minnesota state legislator Allen Quist points out that two single people each making $30,000 per year would pay $1,320 combined for private health insurance if the Pelosi House bill was in effect now. However, if the two individuals were to marry, they would pay a combined cost of $12,000 a year for the same level of insurance under the Pelosi bill.
Quist notes this "marriage penalty" extends all the way from a two-person combined income of $58,280 to $86,640. The GOP candidate notes that that $28,000 spread encompasses a large number of Americans.
"Let me be very blunt," says the House hopeful. "Tyrants know that marriage and family are the basic core of society and the basic foundation of government -- and if people are going to control others, they see marriage and family as their number-one threat.
"So tyrants always want to weaken the family," he concludes, "and that's what this bill is designed to do. And it's designed to do it very effectively."
Quist says when reading the health bill, most Americans will not likely notice the "marriage penalty," but it immediately stood out to him because the legislation is based on the federal poverty level, a subject he knows well.
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Was on Beck last week.
It's going to get ignored.
And it has nothing to do with gay marriage - it will kill marriage in general.
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They just keep pushing and pushing. They simply will not stop until they're met with force.
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Wake the hell up America!!!!
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Wake the hell up America!!!!
She's sleeping? :confused:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/America_ferarra.jpg)
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Heard this on Rush a couple of weeks ago. The different between co-habitants and married couples is HUGE. Watch divorce rates rise if this goes through.
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Heard this on Rush a couple of weeks ago. The different between co-habitants and married couples is HUGE. Watch divorce rates rise if this goes through.
If I were happily married, trusted my wife completely, and saw our taxes increase by $12k/year...
I'd divorce her in a heartbeat and get a domestic partnership, followed by renewing the vows in a church w/o a marriage license.
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She's sleeping? :confused:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/America_ferarra.jpg)
Sadly, yes.
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If I were happily married, trusted my wife completely, and saw our taxes increase by $12k/year...
I'd divorce her in a heartbeat and get a domestic partnership, followed by renewing the vows in a church w/o a marriage license.
We've been discussing marriage....after 15 yrs and 11 mos....we're talking about it.
There are reasons - very valid ones.....like if one of us gets ill. We've done the POA for health care....and were able to get away with me having total control...but only because at the time I don't think his kids knew they could take legal action to try to prevent me from being the one in control. Since his daughter has graduated from law school since and is a practicing attorney....I don't think it would work as easily a second time.
There are also reasons not too.....in 5 yrs I can collect Social Security on my ex.
I'm really torn about it. I would like the spiritual blessing of the Church....but I think God has more on His plate than to be upset the M and I aren't married in eyes of the Church or the letter of the law.
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If I were happily married, trusted my wife completely, and saw our taxes increase by $12k/year...
I'd divorce her in a heartbeat and get a domestic partnership, followed by renewing the vows in a church w/o a marriage license.
I agree. I would consider doing the same...but I'm not even close to getting married, so it's a non-issue for me...
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If I were happily married, trusted my wife completely, and saw our taxes increase by $12k/year...
I'd divorce her in a heartbeat and get a domestic partnership, followed by renewing the vows in a church w/o a marriage license.
You know, at first when I read this I thought, "hell yeah!"
But now I'm thinking, "why??" At what point do we just shoot these fools a :bird:, held high? Why on earth would we actually get divorced over this, when the proper response is to tell Congress to go take a flying f#%$ at a rolling donut?
The more we try to work within the system to get around blatant violations of not only our individual rights, but just plain common sense and decency, the more we sanction this perverted system. I've had enough of this garbage to last a lifetime, several in fact.
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I agree. I would consider doing the same...but I'm not even close to getting married, so it's a non-issue for me...
Really a non-issue for me as well, but will definitely be something I bring up as a discussion point should I ever meet someone and get serious.
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You know, at first when I read this I thought, "hell yeah!"
But now I'm thinking, "why??" At what point do we just shoot these fools a :bird:, held high? Why on earth would we actually get divorced over this, when the proper response is to tell Congress to go take a flying f#%$ at a rolling donut?
The more we try to work within the system to get around blatant violations of not only our individual rights, but just plain common sense and decency, the more we sanction this perverted system. I've had enough of this garbage to last a lifetime, several in fact.
Agreed..trying to get around a stupid ass bill instead of telling them to take a flying leap isn't going to help matters.