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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on December 16, 2009, 01:48:18 AM
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This thread comes to us from the DUmp's mental health forum, a place with little evidence of mental health. It generates some jaw-dropping threads, but moves along very slowly. This thread starts before Thanksgiving, and was still drawing an occasional response today. If you feel the Christmas spirit is getting out of control in your life, just check with these loony bin DUmmies and your holiday joy will be tempered. I don't recall having seen this thread before - apologies in advance if it's a dupe - so here goes:
Poor, stupid Beth is in a celebratory mood, anticipating a prescription for some legal drugs:
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-17-09 12:23 AM
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Is anyone interested in a little pre-holiday check in?
I can go first.
Here on the ranch since August and it's been easier than I thought it would be. And four days until I get to see a real doc for the first time in three years. The answer to "do I really need my depression and anxiety meds" is yes. lol
I'm not sure I'll be doing the holidays this year although I have been cooking and baking again and a lot lately, and that's been good to do. Mostly just trying to walk the day, day by day.
In a way, it's easier to do that up here because there is so much prompting from others where in the city, I didn't have a lot of stuff coming in from the outside to deal with.
I don't really have a plan for the holidays right now. Mom is super invested in us all getting together because she rightfully feels mortal at 77. My brother has all kinds of hell breaking loose on him but seems sort of oblivious to the rest of us. I don't think I'm up for being the glue just now. There's a balancing act in there somewhere.
But in any case, it's nice to be able to check in.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=276x10068
Can you imagine being in a family where Beth Ferrari served as its "glue"?
DUmmies like Forkboy have families, they just aren't invited to family get togethers.
Forkboy (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-17-09 07:59 AM
1. There's holidays coming up?
There's nothing going on here, no plans to get together with anyone, no turkey....good times! I'm going to make a crock pot full of sauce and meatballs and have spaghetti and listen to obnoxious music all day.
So pretty much what I always do.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-17-09 12:33 PM
3. That sounds really good.
I think I may make a list of movies to rent or even, splurge on a NetFlix subscription for the duration.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-17-09 12:35 PM
4. What is the guilt over? I feel some guilt about potentially making Mom unhappy
if I decide not to serve this year. I honestly don't think I could get through it without a fifth in my apron and then, maybe no one else will get through it. LOL
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-20-09 06:29 PM
7. Got to see a (good) doc today, first time in three years.
Meds soon.
Happy dance.
The meds, along with that fifth in the apron, should make for a happy holiday.
How's this for a happy family?
blues90 (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-21-09 05:39 PM
10. Oh man the holidays .
Last year my wife and I did the turkey dinner for both thanksgiving and X-mas . Well she made the dinner , I carved and cleaned up everything.
She makes the best dinners.
We are both depressed people. We both deal with panic and anxiety but it affects us differently.
We have been on just about every med and nothing really worked , they just seem to numb everything.
This year we are not going to do the thanksgiving dinner. It is sort of depressing but the stress for her is too much this time.
We used to know everyone in the 10 unit building we live in since 1982 . All who are left are two ladies both our age in their 60's , one is a over the top in everyones business and the other thinks the world of herself. We used to know many people up and down our street, all have either died or moved years ago.
We have no relatives here or no children of our own.
I think the worst part is remembering past years and the feeling of holiday spirit that seems long gone these days.
Last year was the best we had in many years and mainly because my wife made it so through her efforts and this got me going so I cleaned the entire apt while she cooked.
This year a dark cloud seemed to roll in.
If we did not have our cats we would pack up and do a road trip of some sort just to get a different view.
we have not been 50 miles from home in 15 years at least.
Sorry to bring in the depressing ring.
Mr. and Mrs. bluesnumbers should not do a turkey. They should both just stick their heads in the oven.
DUmmy mopinko deserves consideration for DUmmy of the Year. As awful as this description of her family life is, remember it, because these are the good times. She will post a few days later with a totally different situation:
mopinko (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-23-09 08:57 AM
15. there will be a hole in my holidays.
long simmering conflicts with my extended family have boiled over. just tired of them. i skipped a wedding in september, and skipped a funeral this last weekend. nobody seems to give a shit.
i have exactly 3 people that i care to ever talk to again, and i email them from time to time.
it is not how i want it. but it is the only alternative that i see to their judgmental bullshit. always was the red headed stepchild, and just too old for that kind of undercutting crap. so, the hole goes way back. hopefully i can start to fill it in, now.
families can really suck.
on the plus side, my kids will all be here, with their SO's. my 2 oldest have been doing a lot of cooking, and should be a great dinner. i have a kitchen built for many cooks, and it is finally getting them.
i sort of have a theory about families, and kids leaving at 18. right now i have 4 kids at home, aged 33, 24, 18 and 16. they have spent parts of their lives hating each other, and/or me. but living together as adults, i see them working it out. seems like that interdependence at an age when you are mature enough to work out the differences might be what it takes to have a family bond that lasts.
or at least i hope that is how it works.
best wishes to all of you. hope that you have loves, and low stress. hard as that might be.
Poor, stupid Beth gives us an update on Doug's ex-kids:
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-23-09 09:53 PM
It's nice that you have kids there and cool to see them working things out. One of my boys is in prison. He was popped for dealing pot in Berkeley. He'll be there through December if not longer. It looks pretty scary for him right now as this is his second offense, iirc. I can't even explain how this happened because I don't understand meth. At least I know he's alive.
Anyway, the other kid is fine but he's going to New York for the holiday. That leaves my mother and my brother and me and I'm still not speaking to my brother over my rose garden although, he doesn't know that. When I pointed this out to Mom, she said, "Well, I'm going to die soon" so I'm pretty much screwed no matter what I chose to do. If I get a "sick headache" and hide out in the studio with a batch of Forkboy's Meatballs, I'll feel guilty. If I cook for these peoples, I'll feel mad. lol
Oh, whatEVER.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-25-09 02:00 PM
18. Thanks, mo. My kids have 3 grandparents that had booze trouble.
Two of them were really serious. My theory is that our junkie genes find each other so they can breed. But I think that this kid's meth thing is more related to ADD. This is the same kid that didn't want to be on psych "drugs". Now I'm thinking, he was already using and he didn't want a doctor to know that.
Turns out my brother isn't only coming for dinner. He's going to be living here for a while. It's a long story but he's having trouble finding a house to rent close to his kids. So, he'll be here until he finds something. The upside is that we called DishNet to wire all four teevees -- that'll help keep us out of each others hair. TG my studio is pretty much self-sufficient and has its own entrance.
It's a good thing I came with that extra flexibility feature. Speaking of which, I'm almost done with the shopping list for tomorrow. Now I just have to get up the moral energy to go to Safeway the day before Thanksgiving. Argh.
Wait a minute! She told us the only structure on the "ranch" was a small trailer! What is this about four televisions?
Another happy pack of democrats checks in:
Irishonly (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-28-09 04:23 PM
20. I Hope Everyone Made It Through OK
My husband suffers from PTSD, severe depressive episodes, anxiety and a couple of other things. Last suer he also had to have a hip replaced and found out he has a severe vitamin D deficiency as well as low calcium. I suffer from depression which is supposed to be because of chronic pain. We are quite a pair.
This Thanksgiving was hard. Our daughter moved to Sacramento and it was a mess. Neither of us really knew what she was planning to do. Her current boyfriend is a POS. I never knew how much a child could break your heart. We didn't hear from her for over a month.
On the upside she will be here for Christmas and is finally talking to us again. You have just read the condensed version.
Thanksgiving turned out fine. I guess we just keep putting one foot in front of the other and walk the baby steps.
Note to Irish: Your life is a disaster. End it.
OK. Remember DUmmy mopinko's post from 11/23? She isn't on speaking terms with anyone in the family, but at least she has a happy home with her four unemployed grown children and their shackups, right? Think again:
mopinko (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-28-09 06:34 PM
21. sigh, kids can break your heart.
oldest daughter is having a tough time, and blew up on us. not only spent thursday in her room, she hasn't come out since. throwing around shit from her childhood (she is 33), and saying she has no family. didn't eat any turkey, even after people went to bed. made a frozen pizza.
she has really been so prickly since she moved back home in september. taking offense at the smallest things. clearly struggling. with all the bp in the family, i am so worried about her. and even tho i take most of what she says at coming from some distortions in her perception, it sure does hurt to have those teenaged wounds thrown up again.
i am worried and hurt.
god damned holidays. and i was sure this was going to be a good one.
Now, Beth's one kid is in prison for the holidays. The other one went to New York to avoid her. Apparently he is back after a very short transcontinental visit:
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-29-09 01:53 PM
22. My oldest unloaded on me and let me have it with both barrels yesterday.
His aim is painfully accurate and I may have to take a sick today. Right now, I never want to speak to him again. I know he's feeling insecure, he's literally between jobs and he had been drinking. But tearing your mom's head off on a holiday weekend should be beyond the pale.
More on DUmmy mopinko's family bliss:
mopinko (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-30-09 10:30 AM
24. dh and i are fairly seriously considering xmas in vegas or something.
oldest son has sided with his sister, responding to my concerns that perhaps this is serious, and beyond the norm, by assuring me that i am every bit as big an ass as she thinks i am. that i am a horrible witch. (and i was not even here for the fight that started the whole things, but...) that i am just in denial, that is why i am trying to push this idea that perhaps someone who spends 4 days in their room, barely eating, not getting dressed, imagining that we all hate her and are out to subjugate and destroy her, might be suffering from some neurochemical imbalance.
these kids live in the lap of luxury around here. they have no idea what it means to miss a meal. all imagine to have been raised with absolutely draconian discipline, even tho we could never get them to pick up after themselves. daughter recalls the one time that dh ever hit her, after an absolutely over the top rant at me, as a history of "beatings". we sure weren't perfect. but damn, my parents, his parents, drunk and crazy. argh. i could go on and on.
i just have no desire to spend another holiday with people sneering and locking themselves in their room.
Everyone is unloading on poor, stupid Beth. This is the bum who has moved in:
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-30-09 05:42 PM
27. Maybe we could get group rates!
My birthday is coming up in a mess of December birthdays and then Christmas and New Years. After this weekend, I'm done, no kidding. My brother went off on me on Thursday, promised Mom he'd apologize and didn't and now this.
And another DUmmy bites the DUst:
Lorien (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-14-09 10:27 PM
29. One of my friends did not:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-orlando-ar...
He wasn't a threat to anyone.There was no argument that morning, the day before thanksgiving. There's so much more to the story, but I can't write about it yet.
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-20-09 06:29 PM
7. Got to see a (good) doc today, first time in three years.
Meds soon.
Happy dance.
The meds, along with that fifth in the apron, should make for a happy holiday.
Just fracking amazing!
Just fracking AMAZING!!!111
My cat did a happy dance over the last meds he received for his GIGANTIC COLON condition.
The treatment involved sticks, wires, prongs, some type of a digging tool, and a gallon of IV liquids to "push" things out/along.
Can someone please hold down these fracking freaks and push the DCon down their throats?
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imagining that we all hate her and are out to subjugate and destroy her, might be suffering from some neurochemical imbalance.
You stupid fool...that is the one theme that runs universally through the island.
All the world is keeping you losers down and oppressing you.
She believes just what you taught her.
Reading through that disaster should make me feel some sympathy but for this lot I just can`t.
They claim to be crazy for convenience yet then tell us how intelligent and enlightened they are.
It doesn`t work that way DUmmies and knowing something about the complete persons you are I know you have brought all you fuss over on yourselves.
A life of bitterness,anger and jealousy over what you don`t have will not bring happiness or peace of mind.
You have polluted your own children with it turning them into monsters even more useless then yourselves.
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Well. As Franksolich would say, "Oh my." I can't add much more to what Carl had to say; bitter people will rear bitter children. I don't think it does any of them any good to hang out in this mental health forum. There is no "support network" here, as they imagine. Just clawing hands to bring them further down.
I have some good advice for them. Whenever you're feeling miserable and sorry for yourself, regretting mistakes you have made and feeling ugly toward the fates, go do something for someone else, and immerse yourself in that. I recently experienced this over the Thanksgiving weekend. It helped immensely, spending most of a day thinking entirely of some other people than myself.
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And these are the people who want to remake our society into their image? Geez. Why is it that liberals seem to be the most depressed, depressing people on the planet?
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Oh the joy, the thrill, the excitement, the drama......of having a DUmmie in the family.
I'm deprived.........and damn glad of it.
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i would love to see a thread at dummieville that only the dumpsters with NO MENTAL PROBLEMS could post.
Oh yea "crickets"
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i would love to see a thread at dummieville that only the dumpsters with NO MENTAL PROBLEMS could post.
Oh yea "crickets"
I don't think AdBot is allowed to start threads, which is about the only way that would happen.
:lmao:
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One of my boys is in prison. He was popped for dealing pot in Berkeley. He'll be there through December if not longer. It looks pretty scary for him right now as this is his second offense, iirc. I can't even explain how this happened because I don't understand meth.
She doesn't understand she said he was busted for dealing pot and then says she doesn't understand Meth. lol. Sounds like more than pot dealing going on.
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Whenever you're feeling miserable and sorry for yourself, regretting mistakes you have made and feeling ugly toward the fates, go do something for someone else, and immerse yourself in that.
The suggestion to put their heads in the oven would be more effective and lasting, and would make the world a better place for everyone.
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I got some annoying liberals in my family, well all of them expect for my brother, he is in a "grey" area.
None of them behave like this.
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I don't think AdBot is allowed to start threads, which is about the only way that would happen.
:lmao:
Other than the moles, AdBot is the only mentally stable "person" posting at the DUmp.
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Threads like this make me all warm and squishy inside. :heart:
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Other than the moles, AdBot is the only mentally stable "person" posting at the DUmp.
I dunno Ralphie, good moles post the same turds in order to stay "under the covers", so to speak. snicker!
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I can't imagine holding on to grudges the way these people do. No wonder they're miserable. I mean Beth is pissed about a rose garden she doesn't even have any more and she's the glue. Sheesh!
Cindie
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Doug's stupid ex-wife Beth has updated her Thanksgiving disaster with a preview of her coming Christmas catastrophe:
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-18-09 04:01 PM
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32. Round Two: run up to Christmas.
Yesterday I got into it with my mother who suggested that I farm out my dog while the nieces visited because one of them (who is likely bi-polar and untreated at 11) won't come here if the dog is here. (This must be one of the nieces that Beth wants to have an abortion just like Shakina and Mathina.)
My dog is gentle, doesn't bark, has never shown her teeth, etc. I objected, pointing out that validating the kid's fear might not be great in the long term and we could compromise by having the dog in my studio and out of sight. Apparently, the little girl won't come here if the dog is anywhere on the premises.
I lost it and said I'd be happy to leave with the dog while the kids where here but there was no way I'd farm out my dog alone. Geebus. That dog is my 10 milligram valium and I need her especially on the high family volume holiday days.
And after I said that, there was some yelling at each other and some crying alone in the studio and that was that. Trying to get Mom out of the middle, I called my brother's cell and left a message to the effect that I would be happy to decamp with the dog and that he needed to let me know what his plan was.
Today, brother says nothing about the message and I don't bring it up. Sometimes I think my bro is a very high functioning Aspie and that I just don't know enough about that. I'm going to try to talk to him on Monday morning, early and at a quiet time but those are hard to find because he's perpetually busy and always a little late so it's hard to snag him for a conversation.
Meanwhile, I'm doing the non-violent, non-interactive cookie baking which gives the illusion of calm and plenty, thanks to the Cooking and Baking forum. That's always been my favorite part anyway. lol
Mom and bro always do The Very Last Minute; I like planning. So this time out, I've requested a pizza for Christmas Eve and I'll cook some dinner the next day but plan to hide out in the studio with some of Forkboy's meatballs and with my dog. I'm making the girls their own gingerbread houses and that will be that.
There's 'way too much chaos around here. Thank goodness for sleeping cats. I can feel my blood pressure easing up just by looking at them.
It's gonna be a hilarious trailer over Christmas weekend, and it's a pretty good bet that Beth will keep us updated on all the fun!
If this trailer is rockin, it's because of a family brawl!
mopinko (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-18-09 06:32 PM
33. i never let anyone push my dogs around.
every now and then we would have a kid come over who thought we ought to put the dogs up somewhere. i always told them that- a- this is their home, too. and b- someone might accidently let them out, anyway. so, get over it or go home.
i usually would talk to them and they would tell me they had been bitten, or a sib had been, or something. i would ask them to tell me about it, and they would always tell the story with relish. when they were done i would say- see, you have quite a story to tell, don't you?
somehow after that, they were usually ready to meet the dogs, and they found out they were all nice people. more than one ended up playing nintendo with a dog in their lap.
that would be a great thing for your niece. who knows?
so, things are pretty quiet here, but i am pretty- make your own xmas, kiddies. i am too old and tired to give a shit. they are supposed to make some cookies over the weekend. i might help out, but i have sworn i would not care. somehow i think they will survive.
i am, however, open to starting a pool for the first person to have a meltdown.
DUmmy mopinko is surely as gracious a hostess as poor stupid Beth. Go ahead and terrorize the little mentally-ill kid. It'll be great.
Beth gives us an update from Shawshank:
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-19-09 01:13 AM
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Hey, I got a letter from my kid in prison today. He actually sounds pretty good. No meth since the first week in October seems to be agreeing with him to a degree. He asked me if I can get him a book, "Behold A Pale Horse" but didn't give me an author and there are about five different books under that title. If anyone has a clue as to which one it likely is, I'd be very grateful. lol
Hang in, my friend. Maybe we can put our Bingo cards together and play over the holiday.
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-19-09 01:13 AM
Response to Reply #33 He asked me if I can get him a book, "Behold A Pale Horse" but didn't give me an author and there are about five different books under that title. If anyone has a clue as to which one it likely is, I'd be very grateful. lol
Considering parentage, meth addiction and current living situations I'd have to say it's this one right here (http://www.amazon.com/Behold-Pale-Horse-Homosexuals-Holocaust/dp/0917342097/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1261313655&sr=8-11)
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-18-09 04:01 PM
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32. Round Two: run up to Christmas.
Yesterday I got into it with my mother who suggested that I farm out my dog while the nieces visited because one of them (who is likely bi-polar and untreated at 11) won't come here if the dog is here. (This must be one of the nieces that Beth wants to have an abortion just like Shakina and Mathina.)
My dog is gentle, doesn't bark, has never shown her teeth, etc. I objected, pointing out that validating the kid's fear might not be great in the long term and we could compromise by having the dog in my studio and out of sight. Apparently, the little girl won't come here if the dog is anywhere on the premises.
I lost it and said I'd be happy to leave with the dog while the kids where here but there was no way I'd farm out my dog alone. Geebus. That dog is my 10 milligram valium and I need her especially on the high family volume holiday days.
And after I said that, there was some yelling at each other and some crying alone in the studio and that was that. Trying to get Mom out of the middle, I called my brother's cell and left a message to the effect that I would be happy to decamp with the dog and that he needed to let me know what his plan was.
Today, brother says nothing about the message and I don't bring it up. Sometimes I think my bro is a very high functioning Aspie and that I just don't know enough about that. I'm going to try to talk to him on Monday morning, early and at a quiet time but those are hard to find because he's perpetually busy and always a little late so it's hard to snag him for a conversation.
Meanwhile, I'm doing the non-violent, non-interactive cookie baking which gives the illusion of calm and plenty, thanks to the Cooking and Baking forum. That's always been my favorite part anyway. lol
Mom and bro always do The Very Last Minute; I like planning. So this time out, I've requested a pizza for Christmas Eve and I'll cook some dinner the next day but plan to hide out in the studio with some of Forkboy's meatballs and with my dog. I'm making the girls their own gingerbread houses and that will be that.
There's 'way too much chaos around here. Thank goodness for sleeping cats. I can feel my blood pressure easing up just by looking at them.
Typical mentally ill person putting animals before people. As for her brother having Aspbergers? Maybe he just doesn't want to set off his lunatic sister? Ever think of that Beth? :whatever:
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non-violent, non-interactive cookie baking
I almost wonder what kind of cookie baking she's been doing that she would need to announce that fact that this time it's "non-violent." :clueless:
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So much drama, so little sanity or intelligence. :mental:
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I hate the way threads shrivel up and die after they show up over here. I was sure Beth was too dumb to ever find us, but maybe someone gave her a link. Anyway, she'll forget it by the time she's ready to fill in the DUmp on the Christmas weekend Battle of the Airstream, and we will get another update.
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I almost wonder what kind of cookie baking she's been doing that she would need to announce that fact that this time it's "non-violent." :clueless:
The rest of us must do violent baking
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The rest of us must do violent baking
I guess so. I do beat the cookie dough pretty hard...
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I guess so. I do beat the cookie dough pretty hard...
just do not get emotional, know when to stop, like when beating dogs and kids. heh.
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I guess so. I do beat the cookie dough pretty hard...
I yell at pierogi dough -- does that count as violent baking? :rotf:
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This may have been posted before, but it's an interesting update anyway. This is where poor stupid Beth describes the trailer in the desert she was forced to move into when she lost her apartment in San Francisco. Mom must have been overjoyed to have crazy Beth and her dogs come piling into her little camper after 14 years of solitude. And now Beth's equally crazy brother has joined them, since he's "between jobs". Anyway, Beth mentioned four televisions, so this must be a crowded camper indeed.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-17-09 04:24 AM
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Unintended consequences of mental illness. Did I ever tell you guys
how Mom wound up out here in the hills?
My cousin had just had his onset of schizophrenia and was processing out from a couple of weeks at Stanford Hospital. (And to get this story, you have to know that my cousins are like my siblings. Our parents all parented all of us, we all fought and played and partied with each other, all 27 of us.) And Mom reads in the paper that wild horses are being offered up for adoption as an alternative to being put down by some agency in SoCal.
So, waiting for him to pack his stuff up, Mom tells my cousin, "Animals can be very healing. Maybe we could adopt one of these horses and you could take care of it."
"Auntie Rosie, if you want to buy a horse, buy it for you. Don't buy a horse for me because you want one because I don't want one."
Mom got so annoyed with him, she bought a rescue horse for herself just to show him she could buy a horse for herself. And she boarded it just up the hill from here for two years. Then, it got to be a hassle, driving the fifteen miles every day to tend to the horse and never having much time with it.
So, then she started looking for a place closer to the horse. A house, a condo, a space to put a mobile home, anything. And then one day we saw this place up for sale for the back taxes. It was a miserable junk heap, 20 abused acres 'way up in the foothills. The tenant had ostensibly had an auto repair business but everyone (but us) knew that he had cock fights here every weekend. It was either that or the sheriff just couldn't find him to serve him for twenty years. And the area where he had his "shop" was a toxic waste dump that took 20 years to cook.
After Mom bought the property, we found out that the tax people had been charging the previous owner the wrong, higher commercial rate for years. But, that's another story.
When Mom moved up here -- after the six months it took to evict the creepy cock fighting guy, which involved someone calling us to say he'd been sighted and then one of us rushing up here from our downtown office to serve him in the days before cell phones -- there was a falling down house with a bunch of wild chickens nesting in it, there was a mostly standing shed packed to the rafters with old car parts, old stereos and chicken feathers, the makings of cock pens and gallons and gallons of used motor oil. There were the remains of a small arena, complete with signs that advertised beer and snacks you could buy before the cock fights started.
There was one curly willow, one grave marked only with river stones and a very dirty stream.
There were no utilities. No gas, no electricity, no city water. There was one old silver AirStream with nothing working in it except some field mice. It turned out to be stolen twice over, lol.
Well, Mom sold her house in Sunnyvale and bought this place and she lived in that AirStream until she found a mobile home she could park here while she wrestled the country for permits to build a house. She was 62 when she started this project in 1995. That was 14 years ago.
There's still no house here. There is a nice arena and stabling for her two horses and there are six boarders pasturing here. Mom's still in the "contractor's trailer", the mobile home. She has an office here but it still looks like she's camping although there's a water association and a PG&E pole and a gas delivery every 3 months and a big ugly Comcast dish hidden out behind my studio. Oddly enough, she's decided to put an assisted living facility here and the county seems much more amenable to helping her with that than when she was just planning to put a few McMansions up here with the stables as a hook.
Unintended consequences. I need to remind my cousin that this is all his idea.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=276x9970
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And these are the people who want to remake our society into their image? Geez. Why is it that liberals seem to be the most depressed, depressing people on the planet?
What's amazing is that they believe happy, well-adjusted people, i.e. conservatives, are that way only because we're too ignorant to realize how much our lives actually suck
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What's amazing is that they believe happy, well-adjusted people, i.e. conservatives, are that way only because we're too ignorant to realize how much our lives actually suck
Thing is, if I was a lefty, my life would suck. I'd probably still be drinking--maybe even "enhanced" it by now.
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I yell at pierogi dough -- does that count as violent baking? :rotf:
Healthcare reform is meaningless without mental health for food!!
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This update is from GD, not the nuthatch, but the contributors are no less DUmmyesque:
HipChick (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-23-09 11:59 PM
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Who is spending Xmas alone?
well, I blew off spending xmas with my family, and then the weather screwed up my travel plans, so I get to spend xmas alone, because my family are still pissed off at me. I'm the only unmarried child with no kids, and the only one that has been to college, let alone graduate from high school. I'm religious apathetic, cant stand organized religions - my family would insist I go to church. Politics is a no-go, its Fox 24/7, any challenges end up in a shouting match. I loathe the holidays. I'll probably stock up on Popeyes chicken for Xmas day. I got coupons..I hate xmas
Archae (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 12:12 AM
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2. Here.
Saturday afternoon we are having a party at my niece's house.
But tomorrow and the next, I'll be here with my meowers.
I don't mind.
Less chances for arguments, also.
Archae (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 12:56 AM
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8. For me it's my Dad.
VERY opinionated, makes the Freepers look like liberals, going deaf so he gets loud a lot.
He's outnumbered though big time.
So he gets louder.
BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 12:38 AM
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4. I've spent Christmas alone for the better part of the last 10 years
except for those times I had to work. I don't mind, I don't have to keep to anyone else's schedule and the cat doesn't bitch about anything (unless I don't give her bites, THEN she bitches!). I make a chicken since it's just me and it usually turns out pretty good.
Digit (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 12:53 AM
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6. Me too
My daughter invited me over to her BF's family home, but there is no way in hell I want to meet them.
They insult my daughter, drink heavily EVERY night and are all around obnoxious.
My daughter doesn't drink much and I have told her she is MORE than welcome to live here at home, but for now she is staying with the bum boyfriend.
I would definitely speak my mind if I were there, and that is not how I wish to spend Christmas.
rrneck (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 12:54 AM
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7. I'm going to work. And I like it like that.
jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-24-09 01:07 AM
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10. i loathe from thanksgiving to jan 2. I won't be alone but where i
am we don't celebrate xmas, no tree,etc. I am an atheist. I DO wish people happy holidays and i don't spend lots of time complaining about it. I am only telling you this because you asked.
I guess we should not be surprised by how may DUmmies are shunned by their families.
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How old is Hipchick?
She sounds like she could use a man. lol.
Really, I mean she can't read her own posts? Does she know how pathetic she sounds? She chose her own course and she is alone at Christmas, hateful of faith, looking for coupons for fried chicken. Is Popeye's open on Christmas? I thought only Denny's did that? She is so bitter, lonely, hateful and holier than thou at the same time. She can't see any irony in that at all either I bet.
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How old is Hipchick?
She sounds like she could use a man. lol.
I'm betting she's like the rest of the damaged goods in that shop, and there's one or more perfectly good reasons why there isn't a (sane) guy in the picture with her.
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I'm betting she's like the rest of the damaged goods in that shop, and there's one or more perfectly good reasons why there isn't a (sane) guy in the picture with her.
From the post I can see why it might be hard to find someone "special".
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-01-10 12:06 AM
DOUG'S EX-WIFE; #03 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
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41. Happy New Year, loves.
I'm cooking for Mom tonight, just some humble eggplant. There's a big moon to walk the dogs with. Got another letter from my younger son yesterday, a long lovely letter. Other than the fact that this generic prozac doesn't seem to be doing anything, things are calm here.
mopinko (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-01-10 10:53 PM
THE HYPOCHONDRIAL PRIMITIVE
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42. phew- 4 parties in 2 days. damn. not dead yet.
happy new year all. best to you all.
the people who have to struggle mightily to achieve what so many take for granted are my heroes.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-02-10 10:32 PM
DOUG'S EX-WIFE; #03 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #42
45. Power partying!
I salute the members of this forum who made it to January 2 (myself included).
Today, I washed that season right outta my hair, did up the studio and played Scrabble while finishing up the last of the last, gingerbread house for the niece people. It's not finished but is ready for the barn raising in the morning.
Mom has been my go-between to family here from El Salvador and other foreign points. When I'm 77, I want to go to a party a day like she does. And we've completely flipped our roles. "Don't be home too late, young lady". "Stop nagging at me".
Yeah, yeah.
Lorien (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-02-10 06:57 PM
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43. An exhausting end to another difficult year
I forced myself to be social on Christmas day, though I haven't wanted to talk much to anyone since at least Thanksgiving. I'm still reeling from my friend Palin's death, which was such a horrible, tragic, pointless waste. I'm still searching desperately for some kind of social services that offers basic mental health care. I can't afford meds or a doctor, so I'm looking for any special programs that I could enroll in now that I'm living below the poverty line.
I have some paperwork to apply for "help" with the cost of Wellbutrin through a program that appears to be underwritten by Big Pharma. If I don't do something quickly I'll be out of work completely. Not only is work nearly impossible to find, but it takes me for bloody ever to complete it when I do find it because my ADD, CFS and depression has become so severe.
I live in a "purple" state where disability isn't an option for anyone with an IQ over 90 who can sit upright for four hours and punch a keyboard. The disabled are generally forced enter the ranks of the homeless here in Florida. There's even three paralyzed guys in wheelchairs living on the streets around my neighborhood-the State has no compassion for them whatsoever (this is the city that has made it a crime to feed the homeless, after all). They offer the less than fortunate ZIP. So it's get-better-or-lose-it-all time right now. Needless to say, I don't sleep much anymore.
blues90 (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-03-10 04:06 PM
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46. We did make through the holidays
I was not into them as always. On Nov 10th I turned another year older , didn't need that then thanksgiving came an we bought a premade dinner , then on Dec 8th my wife turned another year older them we battled with X-mas . We got everything to make the meal but did not do it until the 26th . Played the traditional X-mas music to get in the spirt and now that's it's over I miss it , there is nothing left to look forward to. I go through this cycle every year.
It seems only when we have to face something and work as a team that we are both ok. We just have to work on getting out of this apt and that is the big step , a real big step.
I wish we could just move somewhere and see a different view , breath different air . something, anything.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-03-10 05:24 PM
DOUG'S EX-WIFE; #03 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #46
47. I think of Jan 2 as a few weeks away from baseball.
What's the deal with the apartment, blues?
blues90 (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-03-10 05:56 PM
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48. the apt , we have been here since 1981
Everything around us has changed into new horrific buildings and everyone we did know moved away years ago. It is difficult to go outside on the same streets when everything has changed from when we had good times here. In this area in the heart of Hollywood everyone moves in and out and it's really for the young.
I see an old building one day and the next a bare lot with a chain link fence and forget what was there and the bare spot may stay that way for years.
I am not good with change like this. I guess it's all part of getting old or rather being old.
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Got another letter from my younger son yesterday, a long lovely letter.
He has lots of time to write in the slammer.
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-02-10 06:57 PM
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43. An exhausting end to another difficult year
I forced myself to be social on Christmas day, though I haven't wanted to talk much to anyone since at least Thanksgiving. I'm still reeling from my friend Palin's death, which was such a horrible, tragic, pointless waste. I'm still searching desperately for some kind of social services that offers basic mental health care. I can't afford meds or a doctor, so I'm looking for any special programs that I could enroll in now that I'm living below the poverty line.
I have some paperwork to apply for "help" with the cost of Wellbutrin through a program that appears to be underwritten by Big Pharma. If I don't do something quickly I'll be out of work completely. Not only is work nearly impossible to find, but it takes me for bloody ever to complete it when I do find it because my ADD, CFS and depression has become so severe.
I live in a "purple" state where disability isn't an option for anyone with an IQ over 90 who can sit upright for four hours and punch a keyboard. The disabled are generally forced enter the ranks of the homeless here in Florida. There's even three paralyzed guys in wheelchairs living on the streets around my neighborhood-the State has no compassion for them whatsoever (this is the city that has made it a crime to feed the homeless, after all). They offer the less than fortunate ZIP. So it's get-better-or-lose-it-all time right now. Needless to say, I don't sleep much anymore.
This person is EXACTLY why it should be incredibly difficult to get on disability.
KC
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This person is EXACTLY why it should be incredibly difficult to get on disability.
The lying lorien primitive is the one who alleged in 2007 to have seen big bad white cops with big bad night-clubs keeping blacks away from the polls in Florida in November 2000.
The lying lorien primitive had heretofore never mentioned this phenomenon.
The lying lorien primitive, who lives in Florida and is approaching 50 years of age, is a toucher-up for Disney films, or at least used to be. She allegedly has a Ph.D. in an unrelated field, perhaps women's studies or something.
She's very similar to that one mad woman professor from Arizona or Oregon, who stalked that one guy's kid some years ago.
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As soon as DUmmy Lorien gets that bottle of welfare Wellbutrin, she should take the entire bottle in one dose, washed down with a fifth of Wild Turkey.
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you made it to Jan 2
congrats
what a hard thing to do
so unpossible
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As soon as DUmmy Lorien gets that bottle of welfare Wellbutrin, she should take the entire bottle in one dose, washed down with a fifth of Wild Turkey.
All that would do is make it hyper as hell
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It's funny. I come from a very large extended Italian and Irish family. A lot of religious and political diversity. Roman and Lace Curtain Catholics, Mormons, Adventists, Jehovas, you name it... working class conservatives... political machine alderman liberals, the kind of a family you would think would dread holidays. My father was perhaps the biggest ass in the entire group, and I cannot recall a period of time while he was alive that there was not someone in the family who was refusing to speak to him.
But holidays were never a source of stress for me. Any big family gatherings for that matter. We may have fought like cats and dogs, but we were bound by blood and love, and we tolerated each other's differences for the most part.
The past few years I have spent the holidays more or less alone. If I were a DUmmy, I guess I would be in heaven. But you know what? I miss visiting with my huge family.. the great food.. the incessant teasing of cousins.. the war stories of my uncles.. the tales of hardship during the Great Depression and WWII...
How selfish and miserable must these DUmmies be?
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I have some paperwork to apply for "help" with the cost of Wellbutrin through a program that appears to be underwritten by Big Pharma.
I'm interpreting this to mean something so disgusting that it's out of the question; similar to how Ladyhawk views her free mental health counseling by a fundie freeper psychologist.
BTW, what's CFS? She's blaming everything on that, plus ADD, plus depression. She'd better get her ass in gear, it doesn't sound like there's any free ponies where she is.
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I'm interpreting this to mean something so disgusting that it's out of the question; similar to how Ladyhawk views her free mental health counseling by a fundie freeper psychologist.
BTW, what's CFS? She's blaming everything on that, plus ADD, plus depression. She'd better get her ass in gear, it doesn't sound like there's any free ponies where she is.
CFS = Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
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CFS = Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
LOL, oh, you mean that tiredness that most normal people feel after working their asses off all day every day for their entire lives?
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LOL, oh, you mean that tiredness that most normal people feel after working their asses off all day every day for their entire lives?
Yup there's a clinical medical diagnosis for it now. So I guess most of the DUmmies really DO have an excuse for why they don't get off their ass and DO something.
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Yup there's a clinical medical diagnosis for it now. So I guess most of the DUmmies really DO have an excuse for why they don't get off their ass and DO something.
OK, this is purely anecdotal, but I think I have a cure for it. It's called work. I've been unemployed since March, and the longer I sit around doing squat, the more generally tired and low energy I feel. My old job may be calling me back here in the next week or so, and all of a sudden, I feel much perkier.
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How selfish and miserable must these DUmmies be?
More and more everyday
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WOW. I have a slew of health problems, struggle with depression, not a big fan of the holidays, but these people make me seem downright fraking giddy! What's with all the Bi-polar, Aspergers, CFS labels thrown around? Dayum. I do have a 3 letter diagnosis for my health issues. TBI-traumatic brain injury. It isnt an "organic" disorder. You get it just like you think you would. Brain trauma. These people want to be sick. They seem to marinate in it.
BTW, Wellbutrin is not that expensive, most DR's will give tons of samples, and there are even cheaper SSRI's that work just as well. Man, theze ppl are cheap.
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WOW. I have a slew of health problems, struggle with depression, not a big fan of the holidays, but these people make me seem downright fraking giddy! What's with all the Bi-polar, Aspergers, CFS labels thrown around? Dayum. I do have a 3 letter diagnosis for my health issues. TBI-traumatic brain injury. It isnt an "organic" disorder. You get it just like you think you would. Brain trauma. These people want to be sick. They seem to marinate in it.
BTW, Wellbutrin is not that expensive, most DR's will give tons of samples, and there are even cheaper SSRI's that work just as well. Man, theze ppl are cheap.
I had some shitty times health-wise long ago, and I hated being weak and dependant. It makes no sense to me.
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Being sick is awful! It has been a very rough year for me, healthwise, which has made me somewhat depressed. However, those people wear it like a badge of honor. Who's the most deprived, sickest, most unloved, etc. I dont want people feeling sorry for me. That's just weird. This goes to the jist of all their problems, I believe. Mental health. After that, it's just a runaway mine car to hell.
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BTW, Wellbutrin is not that expensive, most DR's will give tons of samples, and there are even cheaper SSRI's that work just as well. Man, theze ppl are cheap.
I think my life stinks, until I visit the DUmp.