cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Dec-13-09 01:03 PM
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I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
that he'll lose his cred as a tool of wall street.
Talk me down.
Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Dec-13-09 01:07 PM
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3. Remind me again how the President creates jobs.
Any stimulus bill goes through Congress -- and unless you lived in a cave for the months of February and March, you know how that worked out.
laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Dec-13-09 01:13 PM
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10. Yes, it is Congress who passed the whittled down stimulus
Would be nice if the Obama administration could address that at some point. Instead of letting the RW co-opt the debate with their talking points about deficits and government spending. Some mention of the fact that the original proposals would have produced faster results but had to be cut back 2nd to Republican obstructionisism. President Obama can't pass the legislation but the will to call out those who responsible for thwarting the job creating agenda does not seem to be there.
From what I'm seeing, we ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to unemployment. From what I can tell, there are going to be HUGE layoffs from some very major corporations early in 2010. The farcical "reported" unemployment rate may be headed towards 15-20%, to which you can add another 5-10% for the people that fall off the radar.
Good things are not coming DUmmies, no ponies for you, no ponies for anyone.
Obama has created a number of jobs, actually. Each title ends in "Czar"...
I think you've hit upon the solution! He can just "czar" the entire country! That way, everyone's got a job, right? :rotf:
Umm...unemployment has doubled since Obama took office.
What jobs has Obama created so far that the DUmmies are worried about him creating more of?
I like the the fact that they are trying to equate a rise in the stock market with an economic recovery, for which employment is always a "lagging indicator".
The stock market LOVES layoffs. This shows that companies are cutting costs, which Wall Street ADORES. Doesn't mean shit about the economy or employment prospects.
Consider too that the rise in the stock market is almost entirely due to government infusion of trillions of dollars into the financial markets. It has nothing to do with a sound economy and everything to do with government interference in the marketplace. So now, we're faced with:
1.) We don't recover, we can't raise money through debt offerings, we default, the world ends.
2.) We do recover (no idea how, we'll just call it the immaculate recovery) we're faced with a currency crisis due to said trillions sloshing around, interest rates shoot straight to the moon, we can no longer finance our debt payments, we default or the dollar fails, or both, the world ends.
Either way, at this point, we burn. Honestly, you'd be hard-pressed to find a better way to destroy an entire economy than by taking the steps the Obama administration has taken...
Honestly, you'd be hard-pressed to find a better way to destroy an entire economy than by taking the steps the Obama administration has taken...
Which is exactly what organizers like Alinsky said would need to happen before the Statists would be able to fully implement their plans.
Unfortunately, that would create competition, so it will never work.
Which might be why KTLK FM is allowing people to nominate themselves for Czar positions. Funny as hell.
Anyone find it intersting that most of the rich, radical socialists who are pushing this agenda were not born in the USA?
You mean like George Soros?
Of course you do.
Have no fear, DUmmies. Obama will not do a thing to make this country better.
He will on Jan 20th 2013. When President Palin is sworn in. :-)
cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Dec-13-09 01:03 PM
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I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
that he'll lose his cred as a tool of wall street.
Talk me down.
Have no fear, DUmmies. Obama will not do a thing to make this country better.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7217608
OMG you have to be kidding me Obama creating too many jobs? :rotf: :rotf:
Only a DUmmy though would see something bad in a scenario that won't happen like this to be a bad thing.
I'd love for too many jobs to be out there.
Yeah it worked so well there are job listings everywhere employers are fighting like hell to get people to work for them. :rotf:
Hmmm you guys bitched about deficits and spending when Bush was in office now it's just a right wing smear to point out that Obama has added a hell of a lot to the deficit.
I also love how it's all the repukes fault when they are the minority. Minority means there are less of them which means the dems control everything. You kept crowing about having 60 in the senate and still you cant get what you want. So instead of blaming the 60 you blame the 40. Just like if cap and tax comes to life and you have to pay double in electric bills to post at DU I bet you blame the repukes for that too.
Umm...unemployment has doubled since Obama took office.
What jobs has Obama created so far that the DUmmies are worried about him creating more of?
You forgot ACORN members who advise on how to run a child prostituion ring.
cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Dec-13-09 01:03 PM
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I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
You forgot ACORN members who advise on how to run a child prostituion ring.
He will on Jan 20th 2013. When President Palin is sworn in. :-)Don't count on it. People had it far worse during the Depression. For four years of Roosevelt, things got worse and worse. Yet Roosevelt was re-elected in a landslide, and then steered the economy to undreamt of depths over his second four years. So, after eight years of an accelerating downward economic spiral, what happened? The American people re-elected Roosevelt to the only presidential third term in history. FDR thrived on being a media darling, and the airwaves and print media saturated Americans with fawning descriptions of his brilliance. An entire generation still views him as the man who saved us from the Depression. Sound familiar?
Don't count on it. People had it far worse during the Depression. For four years of Roosevelt, things got worse and worse. Yet Roosevelt was re-elected in a landslide, and then steered the economy to undreamt of depths over his second four years. So, after eight years of an accelerating downward economic spiral, what happened? The American people re-elected Roosevelt to the only presidential third term in history. FDR thrived on being a media darling, and the airwaves and print media saturated Americans with fawning descriptions of his brilliance. An entire generation still views him as the man who saved us from the Depression. Sound familiar?
Don't count on it. People had it far worse during the Depression. For four years of Roosevelt, things got worse and worse. Yet Roosevelt was re-elected in a landslide, and then steered the economy to undreamt of depths over his second four years. So, after eight years of an accelerating downward economic spiral, what happened? The American people re-elected Roosevelt to the only presidential third term in history. FDR thrived on being a media darling, and the airwaves and print media saturated Americans with fawning descriptions of his brilliance. An entire generation still views him as the man who saved us from the Depression. Sound familiar?
Oh, I've not forgetten about those little turds; no-one with a young daughter can:(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx221/B_Oceander/ACORN/ACORN_Child_Prostitution.jpg)