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Oh my.
quakerboy (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-10-09 11:44 PM
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Whats the best way to get ice off your car windows?
Now, granted, we don't have ice here. But apparently a lot of people do, and it could theoretically happen here too again. So how do you get sheet ice off a car window?
Last year I tried several theories out. The store bought de-icer was crap in a can, but at least it did seem to poison me slightly. I had medium luck with a mix of rubbing alcohol and dish soap, after I chipped the ice down to the glass to get it underneath. Alcohol spread it, and the soap seemed to break the surface tension enough to pull off sheets of it.
How about the usual thing--a windshield ice-scraper?
Chief S itting Bull, the bird-smacking stoned red-faced primtiive:
Redstone (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-11-09 12:13 AM
CANDIDATE FOR TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Original message
2. Be lazy and just start the car with the defroster on, then let it sit and cook until it's warm inside and the ice melts off.
Maybe not socially responsible, but it beats the hell out of freezing while you use a scraper.
gmoney (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-11-09 12:31 AM
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7. well you should warm up your engine when it gets really stupid cold and when it's warm enough for the defroster to start working, it's warm enough to drive
Redstone (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-11-09 03:05 PM
CANDIDATE FOR TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #7
34. Bingo! That also cooks the water vapor out of your engine.
Dystopian (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-11-09 12:46 AM
Response to Reply #2
9. Redstone
I'm so happy happy that you posted that!
I did not want to admit that I was so lazy and ...all that waste of gas.
I don't even have to go outside...
Maybe there's more than we two who do it!
Redstone (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-11-09 03:06 PM
CANDIDATE FOR TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #9
35. Hey, it's not THAT much of a contribution to Global Warming, after all.
It's a medium-big bonfire, most of the primitive comments being frivolous.
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Hey! I think you just hit on how to get large numbers of liberals to oppose the cap-n-trade insanity - make sure they all know that they'll no longer be able to let their cars idle to warm up and melt the ice off; instead, if they're lucky enough to still have cars, they'll have to stand out in the freezing cold for hours scraping the ice off with their fingernails - nothing like using the enemy's laziness against him and his insanely stupid legislative ideas.
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What kind of stupid is it that doesn`t know you have to let the engine coolant get up to temp and defrost the windows before you drive if you live in a cold climate?
If you don`t your own breath will frost up the inside and you can`t see a damn thing nor will the wipers work obviously.
Good God they are the stupidest lot that ever lived.
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Dear DUmmies. Take your largest pot, fill it with water, put it on the stove until it is boiling. Take it out and pour it directly onto the front, rear and side windows.
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Gasoline and a match.
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Dear DUmmies. Take your largest pot, fill it with water, put it on the stove until it is boiling. Take it out and pour it directly onto the front, rear and side windows.
That was my suggestion, although gasoline will work well too. :fuelfire:
Redstone (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-11-09 03:06 PM
CANDIDATE FOR TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #9
35. Hey, it's not THAT much of a contribution to Global Warming, after all.
Can you imagine the screeching if they read something like this from anyone else? The dummies are so entirely useless, and like locusts, drain everything around them.
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-11-09 12:13 AM
CANDIDATE FOR TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Original message
2. Be lazy and just start the car with the defroster on, then let it sit and cook until it's warm inside and the ice melts off.
That's not lazy in the least bit. When I've had to park outside at night, I'll let the car run for 5-10 minutes with defrost on Automatic (meaning it cranks up when the engine coolant warms up, DUmmies). I'd usually have to scrape a little, depending on the thickness.
Or, just invest in a garage. :-)
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You goons shouldn't be driving anyway and putting all that CO2 in the atmosphere.
They want everyone else in the world to curb their carbon footprint yet they are not willing to do what the preach.
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Jesus H. Tapdancin Christ on a stick--how often does sheet ice really form on a windshield? Even in the frozen tundra here, no more than a couple of times a winter.
Tell ya what, DUmmies--I'm more worried about ripping the shit out of my wipers because they froze solid to my windshield than I am about burning a few extra ounces (yes, OUNCES) of gas to get the defrosters rolling. WTF are you doing worrying about being cold when it's painfully obvious you're not prepared to even leave your ****ing driveway, let alone be out on the road?
Then again, you're probably the same whiny-assed bitches who laugh about carrying a winter kit in the car and then act all pathetic when you get stuck and need it.
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Jesus H. Tapdancin Christ on a stick--how often does sheet ice really form on a windshield? Even in the frozen tundra here, no more than a couple of times a winter.
Tell ya what, DUmmies--I'm more worried about ripping the shit out of my wipers because they froze solid to my windshield than I am about burning a few extra ounces (yes, OUNCES) of gas to get the defrosters rolling. WTF are you doing worrying about being cold when it's painfully obvious you're not prepared to even leave your ****ing driveway, let alone be out on the road?
Then again, you're probably the same whiny-assed bitches who laugh about carrying a winter kit in the car and then act all pathetic when you get stuck and need it.
:lmao:
Nice rant, Sparky. :bow:
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-10-09 11:44 PM
Original message
Whats the best way to get ice off your car windows?
Now, granted, we don't have ice here. But apparently a lot of people do, and it could theoretically happen here too again. So how do you get sheet ice off a car window?
Last year I tried several theories out. The store bought de-icer was crap in a can, but at least it did seem to poison me slightly. I had medium luck with a mix of rubbing alcohol and dish soap, after I chipped the ice down to the glass to get it underneath. Alcohol spread it, and the soap seemed to break the surface tension enough to pull off sheets of it.
How about putting a piece of cardboard over your windshield, tucking the ends into the door edges....
Parking in a garage works good, too....
Put a tarp over your car....
Or, if there is a lot of ice, get a shallow pan, some gasoline, newspaper, and some matches. Pour the gas in the pan, throw in some wadded-up newspapers, light the paper, and slide the pan under your car, preferably near the front....
Glad I could be of assistance.... :loser:
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The stupid is strong here.
If you're too lazy to scrape the ice off, pay a neighborhood kid to do it. Don't come online and bitch about it.
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blow torch DUmmies! try the blow torch!
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I'll go with Chief S hitting Bull here partially. I let the vehicle warm up, and let the windows get a little warm. It makes it easier to scrape the windows. But there's usually so much ice and snow here that you cannot let it all just melt off. You do have to do some scraping.
Cardboard is a good trick for approaching freezing rain.
In Quebec I have seen people put cardboard over their radiators during -20 to -40 weather. If you don't do that, most cars will not warm up enough to even feel the remotest bit if heat coming out of the vents after driving an hour.
When I first drove out to Montreal from California, I went between Christmas and New Year. Made it all across the continent without so much as a spit of precipitation. I parked in my girlfriend's driveway about midnight, and we had some freezing rain overnight. Woke up to find my truck encased in about an inch of ice. That was fun figuring out how to open the freakin door the first time.
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In Quebec I have seen people put cardboard over their radiators during -20 to -40 weather. If you don't do that, most cars will not warm up enough to even feel the remotest bit if heat coming out of the vents after driving an hour.
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I remember seeing lots of cars with cardboard in front of the radiator in the late 60's through the 70's. I think it's less needed with smaller engines that we have now.
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I remember seeing lots of cars with cardboard in front of the radiator in the late 60's through the 70's. I think it's less needed with smaller engines that we have now.
it's not needed at all and often can cause problems. The thermostat should take care of all of this. Covering the radiator can cause turbulance that an engine mounted fan may not like.
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it's not needed at all and often can cause problems. The thermostat should take care of all of this. Covering the radiator can cause turbulance that an engine mounted fan may not like.
I'll tell you what, spend a winter in Quebec City, then tell me how it isn't needed. lol
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I think that the cardboard over the radiator tends to work better with diesels, which have a much harder time dealing with extremely cold weather - that and possibly those engines that have worn-out thermostats.:D
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You know how you hear stories about how out-of-control moonbatty nanny-state the UK has become? One locale outlawed warming up one's car. Scrape by hand, get in and off you go.
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Earlier this year, while preparing for ARCTIC STORM BLAST 2009, I put some cardboard on my windshield. I knew it was going to be an ice storm over night, and the precipitation was supposed to be pretty heavy. The cardboard worked to protect my windshield. My windshield wipers were frozen to it, and the sheet of ice froze my doors shut anyway. I couldn't even get in to turn on the defrost. :loser:
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Earlier this year, while preparing for ARCTIC STORM BLAST 2009, I put some cardboard on my windshield. I knew it was going to be an ice storm over night, and the precipitation was supposed to be pretty heavy. The cardboard worked to protect my windshield. My windshield wipers were frozen to it, and the sheet of ice froze my doors shut anyway. I couldn't even get in to turn on the defrost. :loser:
Remote starters--they is your friend.
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Remote starters--they is your friend.
True, but it doesn't get that kind of crazy but once a year or so. Not worth the effort. On another note, as I was mourning my own jack-assery, I DID witness a coworker do the hotwater thing. I didn't feel so bad after that.
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Iassa, how's that global warming working out for you? It's been hellacious here the last week or so.
If you have something like a VW Passat like I do, those remote starters cost around $500. I've been holding back, but one sure would be nice.
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It was pretty dang cold for here this time last week, more moderate this week, but I tell ya, I kind of dig it. It is nice to be a bit chilly ramping up before the holidays, and as long as I have no ice storms to contend with, I am a happy camper.
I may have to look into one of those starter things. I can say I would probably use it more for cooling down the car in the 9 month summer we have.
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It was pretty dang cold for here this time last week, more moderate this week, but I tell ya, I kind of dig it. It is nice to be a bit chilly ramping up before the holidays, and as long as I have no ice storms to contend with, I am a happy camper.
I may have to look into one of those starter things. I can say I would probably use it more for cooling down the car in the 9 month summer we have.
<------ Jealous
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<------ Jealous
Don't be. The summers are brutal, and, well, brutal.
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quakerboy
Whats the best way to get ice off your car windows?
Idiot. If you aren't using public transportation then you should be riding a bike.
And you call yourself a liberal. :loser:
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Idiot. If you aren't using public transportation then you should be riding a bike.
And you call yourself a liberal. :loser:
One notices the primitives always make excuses about things they want other people to do, but can't themselves, because of certain circumstances.
In this case, the quaking primitive might say, "Well, I live in a rural area where there's no public transportation" or "But I live in the northern regions where more than half the year it's too cold to ride a bicycle."
But the primitives fail to remember, when telling other people what to do, that other people might have the same excuses as the "but I can't, because in my case....." primitives do.
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If you are old enough to drive....and live in areas of the country where sleet/ice/snow is a concern....shouldn't you already know the best way to clear the windows of said precipitation?
I mean....it's not exactly rocket science....unless one moved from somewhere too warm to have to know/worry about it...since last winter.
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If you are old enough to drive....and live in areas of the country where sleet/ice/snow is a concern....shouldn't you already know the best way to clear the windows of said precipitation?
I mean....it's not exactly rocket science....unless one moved from somewhere too warm to have to know/worry about it...since last winter.
Please don't use logic or common sense... . :tongue:
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Please don't use logic or common sense... . :tongue:
:thatsright:
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I remember seeing lots of cars with cardboard in front of the radiator in the late 60's through the 70's. I think it's less needed with smaller engines that we have now.
You probably don't want to do that with a gasoline engine. The places I go in Quebec, businesses and parking lots have electric outlets at each parking spot where people plug in crankcase heaters. Most cars you see have a short electrical cord hanging out of their grill. Cold antifreeze isn't a problem, but motor oil gets very thick and makes it hard to crank (or lubricate) a cold engine, though I've never had a problem with rental cars.
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You probably don't want to do that with a gasoline engine. The places I go in Quebec, businesses and parking lots have electric outlets at each parking spot where people plug in crankcase heaters. Most cars you see have a short electrical cord hanging out of their grill. Cold antifreeze isn't a problem, but motor oil gets very thick and makes it hard to crank (or lubricate) a cold engine, though I've never had a problem with rental cars.
My first winter in QC, I got one of those heaters installed. It started shorting out last year, so is now inoperative. But to give you an idea how cold it gets, the first real cold snap, I slid on some ice, and rear ended a mini van. Took out my radiator, causing all my coolant to drain onto the road. There was a radiator shop just a few doors down from my girlfriend's house, which was about six miles from where I had the accident. I took the chance, and drove the six miles with no coolant in my Durango (318ci). The engine was just starting to warm up as I pulled into the radiator shop.
So I had warmed up the car for fifteen minutes before I left the house, drove six miles, got in an accident, spent about fifteen minutes talking to the lady I hit, and then drove six more miles, all on whatever coolant was trapped in the engine block by the thermostat.
There's a special kind of cold that seems to swirl in that vortex that meanders between Montreal and Quebec City.
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Isn't Montreal/Quebec nearly north of the Dakotas? That seems to be the coldest part of the US. Things just get worse from there the further north you go. I was looking at a temperature map earlier today... you folks in Minnesota got nothing on those poor bastards in Fargo.
I've lived south of the Mason Dixon line 90% of my life. I ain't budging for nobody.
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Isn't Montreal/Quebec nearly north of the Dakotas? That seems to be the coldest part of the US. Things just get worse from there the further north you go. I was looking at a temperature map earlier today... you folks in Minnesota got nothing on those poor bastards in Fargo.
I've lived south of the Mason Dixon line 90% of my life. I ain't budging for nobody.
forgetting about Alaska I see... where block heaters are standard, and heated seats, and remote starts are dealer installed options
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You got me there... I forgot about Alaska completely.
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Isn't Montreal/Quebec nearly north of the Dakotas? That seems to be the coldest part of the US. Things just get worse from there the further north you go. I was looking at a temperature map earlier today... you folks in Minnesota got nothing on those poor bastards in Fargo.
I've lived south of the Mason Dixon line 90% of my life. I ain't budging for nobody.
Quebec is north of NY state/Vermont/NH/Maine. There is something going on there that is more than just being "north". If you look at a weather satellite map, the weather over the entire eastern half of North America seems to rotate around a point that moves back and forth between roughly Quebec City and Montreal. I call it "the vortex".
The winter weather in Montreal is harsher than just about anywhere in the lower 48 states. But the weather in Quebec City is even harsher still, even though it is only about an hour drive away to the north east. My house in Vermont is about an hour south of Montreal, and it is noticeably less windy and cold here in Vermont. I used to drive between Montreal and Vermont every week, and the fronts tend to hang right over the international border. (I suspect that's why the border is where it is.) When you are driving south toward the US, you can watch the temperature rise rapidly as you approach the border.
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Iassa, how's that global warming working out for you? It's been hellacious here the last week or so.
If you have something like a VW Passat like I do, those remote starters cost around $500. I've been holding back, but one sure would be nice.
Not too cheap for Jeep Cherokees, either....
I installed one years ago on my wife's 1995 Chevy S-10 Blazer for around 40 bucks....
To put one on our 2002 Jeep will run over $120 just for the hardware....
But it was nice (with the Blazer) to stand at the kitchen window, no matter how hot or cold it was outside, and start it.... :-)
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Those flat plastic kids sleds work great on windshields....But don't forget to stick the rope in the door...coz if it's windy, it turns into a kite...I had one, it's prolly still blowin around Fargo somewhere....
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DUmmies...NEVER worry about ice, snow or forst on your windows again... this eco friendly way will solve all your cold weather problems....no more excessive CO2 emmissions from warming up your car..... JUST BUST OUT ALL THE DAMN WINDOWS....problem solved....see how easy that was.
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JUST BUST OUT ALL THE DAMN WINDOWS....problem solved....see how easy that was.
Actually, that's kind of an easy, yet chilling, trick. Before parking the car, roll down all windows for a few minutes to let the heat escape. Works well.
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Those remote starters would be popular with mafioso. There's a spot in "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight" where the mafia captain, every morning when it came time to leave for work, would kiss his wife goodbye, and then lie down on the kitchen floor while she went out to start the car.
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Those remote starters would be popular with mafioso. There's a spot in "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight" where the mafia captain, every morning when it came time to leave for work, would kiss his wife goodbye, and then lie down on the kitchen floor while she went out to start the car.
lol
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What kind of stupid is it that doesn`t know you have to let the engine coolant get up to temp and defrost the windows before you drive if you live in a cold climate?
If you don`t your own breath will frost up the inside and you can`t see a damn thing nor will the wipers work obviously.
Good God they are the stupidest lot that ever lived.
Very hot rolling boil ....PLEASE
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DUmmies, just stand on the hood and piss on the windshield, you guys are good at pissing on things......
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Jesus, it's not like they have frickin' jobs to go to or anything.
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Jesus, it's not like they have frickin' jobs to go to or anything.
Good point. It's not like they're out and about before the sun warms things up.
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Emergency cheeto and/or chocolate milk run?
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One good homemade remedy for ice on car window is to mix vinegar and water in a bottle. I think you need a 3 parts vinegar to one part water solution. Spray it on the night before and the ice wil be less likely to freeze on your window. Or you can buy that spray on stuff from the store that was poined out earlier.
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Not too cheap for Jeep Cherokees, either....
I installed one years ago on my wife's 1995 Chevy S-10 Blazer for around 40 bucks....
To put one on our 2002 Jeep will run over $120 just for the hardware....
But it was nice (with the Blazer) to stand at the kitchen window, no matter how hot or cold it was outside, and start it....
I drive a stick and have to leave my car in 1st gear to keep it from rolling downhill after I get home (parking brake doesn't work worth a damn), so no remote start for me. My heater doesn't work anyway so its kinda pointless to worry about it now. :-)