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travis80 (177 posts) Thu Dec-10-09 02:44 AM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x276978
BOMBSHELL CLAIM: Flight 11 hijackers in cockpit before takeoff
Edited on Thu Dec-10-09 04:30 PM by undergroundrailroad
This was the big announcement in tonight's 9/11 episode of Jesse Ventura's new truTV show.
Mike Bellone, a Ground Zero rescue worker, told Ventura that he had physically seen one of the black boxes recovered at the WTC and said other rescue workers he was working with said at least 3 were found. Bellone said he was told by the FBI to shut up about finding the black boxes and has been harassed by the Feds. This story about black boxes being found at the WTC was reported first back in Oct 2004 by the Philadelphia Daily News.
Bellone was supposed to introduce Ventura to people who apparently worked for American Airlines and were monitoring the calls from Flight 11 and heard some explosive stuff that the government never told the public about, but he said they got scared at the last minute and didn't want to be interviewed anymore. Bellonea said they've all been told to hush up by the FBI and one of them is being constantly followed and being bugged by the Feds.
At the end of the show, Ventura said Bellone finally called him later and told him that the reason the government is covering up that they found the black box of the alleged planes that hit the towers was because those black boxes prove that the hijackers were in the cockpits before the planes took off from the ground and officials at the airports allowed the planes to take off!
It's all hearsay for now of course, but quite the claim!
(The episode should be on youtube soon and I'll post link when up.)
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-10-09 08:26 AM
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4. Is Bellone In Jail Yet?
September 28, 2005 Wednesday
HEADLINE: 9-11 'HERO' SWIPED OUR GEAR: FDNY
Daily News, New York, Sports Final Edition
FIRE MARSHALS ARRESTED a self-proclaimed "honorary firefighter" for allegedly touring the country with pilfered FDNY gear to promote a 9/11 book, officials said yesterday.
The New York Post
April 5, 2004 Monday
SECTION: All Editions; Pg. 15
HEADLINE: 9/11 TOUR FUROR - FIRE MARSHALS PROBE GROUND ZERO EXHIBIT
BYLINE: JEANE MacINTOSH
A New York charity that runs a traveling exhibit of Ground Zero "artifacts" - including part of a plane, pieces of destroyed buildings and earrings, shoes and eyeglasses belonging to victims - is under investigation by city fire marshals, The Post has learned.
And Fire Department brass has warned the group - which won't say where or how it obtained many items - to stop claiming ties to FDNY and dressing in its uniforms.
"The fire marshals have opened an investigation into this group," FDNY spokesman David Billig confirmed.
Members of the organization, Trauma Response Assistance for Children (TRAC) Team, a registered nonprofit charity, cross the country talking to schoolkids and civic groups. The group wears Fire Department garb during presentations, but isn't sanctioned by the department.
"This group has no right to imply it works for or acts in any official FDNY capacity," Billig said. They are "not authorized to wear Fire Department uniforms."
TRAC founder Mike Bellone said he means no harm: "We're just a group of guys who want to share our experiences from Ground Zero and show kids that hope can spring from a horrible tragedy."
The group has done more than 700 presentations nationwide, he said.
TRAC doesn't charge for appearances and relies on sales of a self-published book and souvenirs - such as shirts, patches and snow globes carrying the FDNY logo - for revenue.
But, Bellone said, "Our hosts, if they can afford it, pay our room and board."
Billig said the products TRAC sells aren't officially licensed by FDNY.
Bellone, a former grocery worker, was named an "honorary firefighter" by friends at a ladder company for his Ground Zero work, where he was given "visitor" access to the site.
His group's press releases read, "FDNY and TRAC Team Present," and its members' shirt patches are emblazoned with the words "TRAC Team - FDNY." But only one of them, Bob Barrett, a retired firefighter, is legitimately FDNY. The other four or so men are Bellone's pals.
Still, Bellone insists, "We don't give the idea I work for FDNY, or that TRAC is connected to them. If someone got that idea, I apologize."
As for the artifacts, Bellone said: "It never occurred to me that anyone would have a problem with it. We tried to return some of the stuff, but if nobody wanted it, we thought, 'Why not use it for educational purposes?' If someone wants something back, just tell me."
TRAC's troubles might run deeper than the exhibit investigation.
The Post has learned that the group:
* Owes New Jersey graphics company ADP $200,000 for printing its self-published book about Ground Zero.
* Stiffed a company that provided the American flags TRAC hands out to local dignitaries.
* Left a cross-country trail of more than $20,000 in unpaid bills, including hotel rooms, flights, FDNY shirts, business cards and even prescription drugs.
The Post spoke to four former TRAC business associates who said they felt "used" by the group after it "misrepresented" itself and left unpaid bills.
"I put my reputation on the line for this group, and believed in it," said one. "But the truth is, they play on people's emotions and good will, manipulating them where they're most vulnerable for nothing but their own gain."
Bellone conceded TRAC owes money, but chalked some of it up to "miscommunications" and "mix-ups" and said, "We've either paid or are working to pay off all our bills."...
OOps...sometimes comedy writes its self.
travis80 (177 posts) Thu Dec-10-09 03:21 PM
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25. Bellone said they are being harassed by the Feds, didn't you read?
he said they are running for their lives. one is being bugged.
would you feel safe to talk Bolo?
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I sure hope the 9/11 forum there is being studied by psychiatric students to see what dementia really is.
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Poor Travis80
Sometimes it's just too hard to watch a dream die.
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The Post has learned that the group:
* Owes New Jersey graphics company ADP $200,000 for printing its self-published book about Ground Zero.
* Stiffed a company that provided the American flags TRAC hands out to local dignitaries.
* Left a cross-country trail of more than $20,000 in unpaid bills, including hotel rooms, flights, FDNY shirts, business cards and even prescription drugs.
Along with lying to the public and begging for gov't money, that is the defintion of a liberal activist group.
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I saw one episode of his show... he traveled to wherever the HAARP installation is and interviewed a bunch of people that had worked or were familiar with the project. It was like watching a Coast to Coast AM broadcast on TV.
Also, old guys who have no hair should not have ponytails.
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Sounds like a bunch of Belloney.
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I knew this show was going to be gospel for the DUmpSHits. Ventura will never prove a damn thing, yet will pull all of these emotional strings in order to get asshats like those that reside at the DUmp to send money or believe in the "Booger Man" and up his salary. What a rotten thing to do!
I have little respect for assholes that prey on the mentally challenged.
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The little I've seen of the show to date does perform the valuable service of irrefutably demonstrating that Jesse is a crazy asshat beyond any possible shadow of a doubt.
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The little I've seen of the show to date does perform the valuable service of irrefutably demonstrating that Jesse is crazy asshat beyond any possible shadow of a doubt.
There's a reason he's called Jessie "The Body" Ventura and not Jessie "The Brain"