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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: kenth on December 10, 2009, 04:50:55 AM
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-09-09 08:57 PM
Original message
Poll question: If the survival of capitalism were in a Democratic president's hands, what should she or he do?
We're assuming, for the purposes of this poll, that in the situation in question a "Second New Deal" wouldn't be possible.
Poll result (24 votes)
(5 votes, 21%) Save it. The rich are the only people who matter and the rest of us need to learn our place
(14 votes, 58%) Let it die, then help build something better
(1 votes, 4%) I've got an AK-47 and 30 years of canned food in the basement, so I don't care
(0 votes, 0%) Will it affect reality tv?
(4 votes, 17%) Other
styersc (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-09-09 09:24 PM
Response to Original message
1. There should be another option.....
..... "Run some polling to find out what our principles are. Get Obama to give a speech supporting the results of the poll and then all of DU would swoon." Sure, I'd vote for that one.
IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-09-09 09:30 PM
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2. Drive a wooden stake through its heart
As W.E.B Dubois once said, nothing good can come out of a system based on greed.
timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-09-09 09:45 PM
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4. Capitalism. All I ever got was this t-shirt. And a job. And a house. And the means to provide for my family.
:lmao: How dare he!
Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-09-09 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. You could get those without having a system based solely on appeasing the greed of the few
We could run this world for the good of all if we ever actually tried.
Dummies are some of the greediest on the planet. They wish to have things taken away from others for their own enjoyment. Zero sum dummies.
Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-09-09 11:15 PM
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8. Can we really be sure FDR was RIGHT to save it?
The New Deal was responsible for stopping what likely would have been widespread famine, but the "pragmatic" decision to save the existing economic system did end up giving the forces of reaction and hatred and inequality a chance to make a comeback. Without the New Deal, we might never have been subjected to Reagan.
We need to design something new, something that provides genuine social equity, allows people to use their natural creativity for positive purposes, and still honors the need for individuality and flexibility. This would also mean expanding the group that makes the economic decisions in this country to include, in some form or other, ALL of us.
Huey Long wouldn't have considered himself a leftist, btw.
Famine you say? But we could have prevented Reagan! A few million deaths due to starvation would have been worth it!
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-09-09 11:15 PM
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8. Can we really be sure FDR was RIGHT to save it?
The New Deal was responsible for stopping what likely would have been widespread famine, but the "pragmatic" decision to save the existing economic system did end up giving the forces of reaction and hatred and inequality a chance to make a comeback. Without the New Deal, we might never have been subjected to Reagan.
We need to design something new, something that provides genuine social equity, allows people to use their natural creativity for positive purposes, and still honors the need for individuality and flexibility. This would also mean expanding the group that makes the economic decisions in this country to include, in some form or other, ALL of us.
Huey Long wouldn't have considered himself a leftist, btw.
In other words "I should be allowed to sit around all day smoking weed and writing stupid poetry so I can claim I have added to the cultural enlightenment of society.
For that I am entitled a comfortable (by my standards) living."
Never once hear them suggest who should be the garbage collectors or who should be the fry cook for the fast food they want and so on.
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In other words "I should be allowed to sit around all day smoking weed and writing stupid poetry so I can claim I have added to the cultural enlightenment of society.
For that I am entitled a comfortable (by my standards) living."
Never once hear them suggest who should be the garbage collectors or who should be the fry cook for the fast food they want and so on.
The DUmies think they will be members of the ruling elite. They will get a 2-room mud hut and two pots.....one to cook "something" in and the other to piss in.
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The DUmies think they will be members of the ruling elite. They will get a 2-room mud hut and two pots.....one to cook "something" in and the other to piss in.
I have said it before that when their delusion is not fulfilled they will continue as now with O...whining and fussing and screaming.
Even if of the same political ilk such rabble would be considered a danger to a socialist dictatorship and they would find themselves to be very disposable in the system they crave.
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The DUmies think they will be members of the ruling elite. They will get a 2-room mud hut and two pots.....one to cook "something" in and the other to piss in.
Three pots. They gotta have one to smoke.
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Three pots. They gotta have one to smoke.
And that one would be the biggest.
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Here's the link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x48102
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We need to design something new, something that provides genuine social equity, allows people to use their natural creativity for positive purposes, and still honors the need for individuality and flexibility. This would also mean expanding the group that makes the economic decisions in this country to include, in some form or other, ALL of us.
You make economic decisions every day, when you decide between the Cheetos or the Fritos. Ken Burch is a barking moonbat tool, straight out of central casting. He's a parody of himself, and could be written into a cartoon, like Beavis & Butthead's teacher. He mistakes senseless platitudes for deep thinking and is sooo impressed with himself. This is a guy you want to punch in the mouth.
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The DUmmies want to kill and eat the goose that lays the golden eggs....then what are they going to do?
Don't answer that....they haven't a clue so don't give'em one.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-09-09 09:30 PM
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2. Drive a wooden stake through its heart
As W.E.B Dubois once said, nothing good can come out of a system based on greed.
Well there goes socialism then. There's nothing more greedy than believing you have a right to steal something earned by another. You guys want socialism...you go first. As soon as you get George Soros, Peter Lewis, the Hollywood bimbos (male and female) and the rest of you put your money in a big pot and give equal shares to each other, we can talk. Since not one of you has any intention of giving up YOUR slice of the pie that's a conversation we'll never have.
Cindie
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DUmmies are morons. They have no idea what capitalism actually is. Capitalism can thrive in a controlled economy which is why GE and Wal-mart and other huge companies always support regulations that will kill their smaller competition.
Under socialism, capitalism is oppressive. In a free market, capitalism is an engine of freedom.
These people don't even know what ghost they are attempting to fight.
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Well there goes socialism then. There's nothing more greedy than believing you have a right to steal something earned by another. You guys want socialism...you go first. As soon as you get George Soros, Peter Lewis, the Hollywood bimbos (male and female) and the rest of you put your money in a big pot and give equal shares to each other, we can talk. Since not one of you has any intention of giving up YOUR slice of the pie that's a conversation we'll never have.
Cindie
The difference between a socialist and a communist is that a communist will use a gun to steal.
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Ya gotta love the most popular response:
Let it die, then help build something better
Uh, DUmmies? Without government KILLING it, capitalism would thrive. IOW, government interference is a hindrance to pure capitalism, not a help. And what exactly is the "something better" you seek? Please, we've only got 5000 years of economic systems to look back upon to find ONE example which just HAS to work better than capitalism, right?
IOW, DUmmies showing once again how ****ing clueless they are in the ways of reality.
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The difference between a socialist and a communist is that a communist will use a gun to steal.
Which is why pure socialism always becomes communisim.
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Here's the link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x48102
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Ahh, thank you! I knew I was forgetting something. :thatsright: