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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Mike220 on December 07, 2009, 01:47:01 AM
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Big bonfire lit by the impik primitive. And of course we get the far left "He's so great !!!!11!eleventy!" to the extreme left "He's a MIC tool !!!eleventy!11!!"
I don't know. Watching others delude themselves into a fantasy is fun to me.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x40701
impik (350 posts) Sat Dec-05-09 05:31 PM
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"Obama's leadership was the source of some amazement"
Obama's leadership of this process was the source of some amazement by those who participated in it. He was all business. Unlike Bill Clinton, he didn't allow the conversations to ramble; unlike George W. Bush, he ran the meetings himself. He asked sharp, Socratic questions of everyone in the Situation Room. He would notice when an adviser wasn't participating, even in an area that wasn't his or her expertise, and ask, What do you think about this, Hillary? Or Bob, or Jim. He encouraged argument among those who disagreed — most notably General David Petraeus and Vice President Joe Biden. He was undaunted by the military. Indeed, the greatest cause of delay was Obama's constant pressure on his commanders to justify every unit and find some way to speed the troops' arrival. The final deployment includes only three combat brigades and one training brigade — about 20,000 troops — augmented by 10,000 enablers: medics, mechanics, intelligence analysts, strategic-communications (that is, propaganda) experts.
The whole story:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,194523...
silverweb (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 01:05 AM
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34. Really.
Their amazement is cause for great amazement!
Then again, our President -- profiled very well _here_ -- has always amazed and often befuddled with remarkable consistency.
And there are those who keep wishing they could somehow get away with portraying him as a "doddering incompetent fool" -- but they are the fools!
I respect, admire, and trust our President, even when I'm not sure I understand or agree with some of the things he's doing.
rury (21 posts) Sun Dec-06-09 01:18 PM
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65. Those who were expecting an incompetent, doddering fool
are either (a) so used to Bush that they are surprised at presidential intellectual heft or (b) expected Obama to be intellectually inferior because he is black.
The man is as sharp as a tack and a deep thinker.
And there's the race card. Don't leave home without it. Obama is intellectually inferior because he's a Democrat, not because he's black. And he has the intellectual heft of a gnat.
ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-05-09 05:47 PM
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2. I'm glad we turned the page on the past last year. Pres. Obama is the best possible kind of leader.
Thanks for this revealing look at the CHANGE I voted for and still believe in.
Best kind of leader for the mental midgets at the DUmp maybe...
Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-05-09 05:55 PM
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4. I'm continually amazed at his leadership
in supporting things such as the patriot act, privatizing education, horrible 'health care reform', anything to benefit wall street, outsourcing more of our jobs...
Aww Kermmy, don't be a wet blanket on the virtual fellatio of The Won.
Scruffy1 (122 posts) Sun Dec-06-09 02:36 PM
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69. Yes, he's not what we had hoped for..
Way too moderate,too afraid of rocking the boat. I knew we had been sold out when the Lieberman from Likud got to keep his chair. But then I knew what he was when I voted for him and I can't help but like him. At least he's a smarter, kinder kind of corporatist. I also have to remind myself that the President is not all powerful and the only way we'll ever have a democracy is through a new Constitution to curb the power of the Senate and a ban on corporate campaign funds and propaganda. I don't see either happening in my lifetime. In the meantime that leaves building organizations from the grassroots aimed at growing the future.
The ungroomed primitive has a very strange definition of moderate. Though I suppose when you're to the left of Marx...
Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-05-09 06:11 PM
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9. You can disagree with his decisions
but nobody should be able to blithely dismiss nor deny the amount of time, effort, and caution that he appears to put into them- unlike Bush.
AKA, Rahmbo flipping a coin and programming Lord O's teleprompter.
mkultra (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 11:59 PM
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81. im guessing you didnt get your pony
Since you are doing the "lord and savior" crap, im guessing your in pony mode.
The issuing of Free Ponies® is now suspended...
jenmito (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-05-09 10:30 PM
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28. I've heard that he's ALWAYS like this in meetings where decisions have to be made,
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 10:31 PM by jenmito
so I'm not surprised. But I AM as happy to have him as my president as the night he won the election. I'm shocked at the simple, obviously un-thought-through declarations of Obama being just like Bush, that, "This is NOT the 'change' I voted for," etc.
Obushma!!!11!
Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 12:26 PM
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59. the best leader is also a good listener-
imo. One who does not just listen for those who share their perspective but actively seek out those who differ- and thoughtfully weigh all sides of the situation.
I believe President Obama is this kind of leader-
Thanks for posting this.
Recd.
The midnight blue primitive must have missed the "I won" speech.
Tippy (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 03:04 PM
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70. K&R...I have always supported my President .....and will continue....n/t
The tipsy primitive is lying. He never supported Bush. Oh wait, * wasn't his pResident...
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Nothing the primitives do ever shows a sign of mental or emotional maturity.
They are forever stuck at 5 years old where the irrational makes sense and should be,hero worship is common and selfish greed rules their social activity.
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-05-09 05:47 PM
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2. I'm glad we turned the page on the past last year. Pres. Obama is the best possible kind of leader.
Thanks for this revealing look at the CHANGE I voted for and still believe in.
:lmao:
...and this is why we shouldn't allow the drug addicts to vote, kids.
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The members of the People's Temple in Jonestown, Guyana said the same type of things about Jim Jones.
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I also have to remind myself that the President is not all powerful and the only way we'll ever have a democracy is through a new Constitution to curb the power of the Senate
Up yours, Scruffy. Move to Venezuela. Also, you need to be careful what you wish for.
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I just threw up a little in my mouth, and have to vacate this thread if I'm to have any chance of keeping my breakfast down.
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If he is thoughtful then I am the Queen of England
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a deep thinker.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
*takes a deep breath*
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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The members of the People's Temple in Jonestown, Guyana said the same type of things about Jim Jones.
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Is it wrong to hope they drink the cyanide flavored Koolaid? :evillaugh:
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impik (350 posts) Sat Dec-05-09 05:31 PM
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"Obama's leadership was the source of some amazement"
He encouraged argument among those who disagreed — most notably General David Petraeus and Vice President Joe Biden.
It is hard to imagine an argument more one-sided than General Petraeus vs. V.P. Plugs, the dumbest man in the history of American politics. That in itself casts doubt on the judgement of the jug-eared muslim.
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There's an article in the latest NR, about Plugs. It suggests he believes his time has yet to come. He may be eyeing a presidential run for 2016. Imagine the possibilities.