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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on December 06, 2009, 09:08:28 PM
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 06:05 PM
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Historians are going to look back, and see this as one of the great restorative/reform presidencies
Listening to the talking heads, run in a new circle this week (Have you noticed, that every week or two it is a new dire crisis with no hope).. It hit me what an amazing restorative presidency this has become.
If the President has been hit with one major crisis.. I think I could join in with those who want an all out push for everything NOW.
But President Obama, like President Roosevelt.. was hit with a major economic crisis and war. In Obamas case, it was the two at the same time.
Add to that, a climate crisis, DADT, DOMA, declining markets.. upsurging deficits.. and all needing to be addressed in some form or another at the same time.
Also, our loss of status on the world stage and the need to rebuild those alliances.
Some call it change only, I think it is restorative, and reformative ....
restorative: tending to revive or renew health, spirits, etc.
reformative : to put or change into an improved form or condition b : to amend or improve by change of form or removal of faults or abuses
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x41908
If America survives his occupancy of the White House........
ruggerson (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 06:33 PM
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8. He's a conciliator
not a partisan. Some will argue that is what the times call for, but regardless, the two approaches to running the executive branch have historically yielded wildly different results.
Not a partisan? Can I have some of the drugs you are doing?
FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 07:07 PM
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9. I can see the similarities of 9/11 to Pearl Harbor........
and the similarities of America Fighting a two front war Japan/German to our fighting Iraq/Afghanistan, although WWII had the advantage of being fought at a time when a rational competent President was at the helm from the beginning, while we've had 8 years of ****ed up Bush who started both of his wars, and mishandled both to a point of extreme, and then some. So, I'm thinking Obama will have an even tougher time with the wars he inherited, unlike FDR who didn't have someone passing them off to him after they had been clearly botched.
I also see great similarities of the Wall Street Crash of 1929 and the Wall Street Crash of 2008,
compared to any other period in history...sure currently it isn't the extreme that the Depression was, but we can all thank goodness for that, considering that we are in the 21st century.
I don't find the comparison at all laughable......
Wall Street's biggest drop occurred after Lord Zero was elected. His election scared the hell out of investors.
The Iraq war is pretty much winding down thanks to timetables set up under President Bush. 0Bama now owns the Afghanistan war. It is his to lose, and lose it he will.
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What the Hell?
Bo's still wet behind the ears.
I think it's rather too early to evaluate Bo as anything other than a destroyer.
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8. He's a conciliator
not a partisan
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:mental: :mental: :mental:
I guess they missed the whole "I won" speech.
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What the Hell?
Bo's still wet behind the ears.
I think it's rather too early to evaluate Bo as anything other than a destroyer.
They're afraid of another Republican Revolution circa 1994 frank.
They want to get Obama's "legacy" built before all is forgotten in a wave of Conservative red like what happened with Billy Jeff.
Not sure if the DUmmies could survive 3 democrat presidents who left office with nothing good to show for their time there.
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FrenchieCat
I can see the similarities of 9/11 to Pearl Harbor........
Talk about a full 180 since Dear Leader took office. If this racist primitive had said this a year ago they'd have crucified her.
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FrenchieCat
I can see the similarities of 9/11 to Pearl Harbor........
Wait a minute! I thought the democrats told me 9/11 was a simple criminal matter - serious, but not a real big deal! Was Tojo convicted by a petit jury?
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 06:05 PM
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Historians are going to look back, and see this as one of the great restorative/reform enema/trainwreck presidencies
Fixx3d.