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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on December 06, 2009, 12:15:13 PM
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Oh my.
Oh dear.
Ege Bamyasi
NOMINEE FOR TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
please note--nominated as the Systematic Chaos primitive
December 4, 2009
Just a quick post from me for now. I don't want to get into a long post because if I do I know I'll go into detail about some issues that Jeanette is having at work which have her highly distraught, and I want to see if they'll resolve themselves before I go all splody about it. I'll just say that she's been upset over some things, to the point of a lot of spontaneous crying this week (and if it were me I'd probably be frustrated enough to cry too), and my powerlessness to do anything more than listen and commiserate has me upset. I don't think she's going to actually lose the job, but nonetheless she and the majority of her peers are not too happy over how some things have been handled.
That's it... I'm not going to sit here and get more into it. Hopefully I'll find out later this evening that everything is copasetic and life will return to business as usual, whatever that means.
Had leftover beans, corn tortillas and salsa today. It's payday for Jeanette, so dinner is still up in the air. How she feels will dictate just how MWL it is, but she fully understands that after Saturday it's potatoes, rice and oatmeal with veggies and fruit thrown in no matter what's going on. I promise we won't have a full-fledged SAD meltdown or anything, no matter what.
I'll be back with more by Sunday at the latest. Tomorrow is her only day off this week unless she remains stuck in her post-training warm-up period for another week, or longer. Right now we just don't know much of anything.
UPDATE - Jeanette will be in post-classroom training for another week, as will the majority of the people in her class. Less than 8 out of 24 people passed this phase, which is especially abysmal because the scores on the final classroom exams were very high. Of course, this being a phone job, one has to know the book knowledge in terms of how the product works, and also has to know the proper steps to take during a call. The coach who is handling her group has failed miserably in helping (mostly) highly seasoned agents -- who have come in from a former client which left the call center -- to learn the ropes of this new client's phone protocol. The person who is in charge of this intermediate step facility-wide isn't too pleased with how this has gone, and therefore the usual discipline which comes with being slow on the uptake is apparently being waived.
Hopefully there will be a chance for Jeanette -- and the other agents who were left to pretty much to fly blind -- to get caught up to where they should be, and the frustration of incomplete training will cease to be an issue. Promised time in the classroom to get help with sticking points really never materialized, but it sounds like there will be a major push for more group time to get questions answered. Her mood is much better right now than it's been most of the week, and I'm very relieved.
Please notice the gigantic primitive used a word--although he misspelled it--heretofore used on the internet only by P-J Comix and franksolich; I disremember which of the two of us used it first.
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Please notice the gigantic primitive used a word--although he misspelled it--heretofore used on the internet only by P-J Comix and franksolich; I disremember which of the two of us used it first.
He should have said hunky dory.
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He should have said hunky dory.
You know, there's something here the gigantic primitive isn't seeing, the insensitive jerk.
His wife is overwrought not because of external factors--work--but because of domestic matters, but she's too kind or too timid to address it with the source.
I suspect the gigantic primitive's wife is tired of pulling all the weight in the household, including bringing home the bacon.
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You know, there's something here the gigantic primitive isn't seeing, the insensitive jerk.
His wife is overwrought not because of external factors--work--but because of domestic matters, but she's too kind or too timid to address it with the source.
I suspect the gigantic primitive's wife is tired of pulling all the weight in the household, including bringing home the bacon.
Can you blame her? Stuck in a minimum wage sweatshop, living with a monstrous paddle-footed sedentary freak with the physical appearance and diet of a hippopotamus, performing such nasty tasks as surgically removing his underwear, while he eats her salary and spends the rest on a premium subscription to some silly dungeons and dragons computer game. The spontaneous tears could easily result from her living conditions, but are more likely a product of her mental illness.
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How dumb do ya gotta be to fail bein a telemarketer? Can't read a script?
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You know, there's something here the gigantic primitive isn't seeing, the insensitive jerk.
His wife is overwrought not because of external factors--work--but because of domestic matters, but she's too kind or too timid to address it with the source.
I suspect the gigantic primitive's wife is tired of pulling all the weight in the household, including bringing home the bacon.
Yep. This is exactly why he has my vote. While poor Jeanette shares the blame for saying, "I do", I still feel sorry for her. He's either sleeping or on the computer, but it must be work that has her upset. :thatsright:
That's it... I'm not going to sit here and get more into it. Hopefully I'll find out later this evening that everything is copasetic and life will return to business as usual, whatever that means.
Oh well, enough about her, on to food...
Had leftover beans, corn tortillas and salsa today. It's payday for Jeanette, so dinner is still up in the air. How she feels will dictate just how MWL it is, but she fully understands that after Saturday it's potatoes, rice and oatmeal with veggies and fruit thrown in no matter what's going on. I promise we won't have a full-fledged SAD meltdown or anything, no matter what
I'm having a problem with blood sugar, it having cropped up a few years back. At no time did I feel the need to require my wife to change her diet. I had the problem with carbohydrates and other sugars, not her. So while her health is obviously my concern, I didn't expect her to drastically cut out sugars the way I did.
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Yep. This is exactly why he has my vote. While poor Jeanette shares the blame for saying, "I do", I still feel sorry for her. He's either sleeping or on the computer, but it must be work that has her upset. :thatsright:
Oh well, enough about her, on to food...
I'm having a problem with blood sugar, it having cropped up a few years back. At no time did I feel the need to require my wife to change her diet. I had the problem with carbohydrates and other sugars, not her. So while her health is obviously my concern, I didn't expect her to drastically cut out sugars the way I did.
If he was doing all the cooking, I could him not wanting to make something separate for his wife, and that would be reasonable. If my (hypothetical) husband were dieting, and doing the cooking, I wouldn't expect him to cook something separate for me. But, from what I can tell, his poor wife is doing all the cooking as it is, yet he expects her to follow his diet, and apparently if she wants something different, he is unable to stay on his diet on his own.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if his issues are the main cause of her emotional mood swings and not work, and he is such a good deflector, he would probably make her feel guilty if she mentioned anything. She is working, keeping up the house, and caring for him while he sits at the computer all day, and sleeps. I would probably be stressed too!
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if his issues are the main cause of her emotional mood swings and not work, and he is such a good deflector, he would probably make her feel guilty if she mentioned anything. She is working, keeping up the house, and caring for him while he sits at the computer all day, and sleeps. I would probably be stressed too!
Uh-huh.
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If he was doing all the cooking, I could him not wanting to make something separate for his wife, and that would be reasonable. If my (hypothetical) husband were dieting, and doing the cooking, I wouldn't expect him to cook something separate for me. But, from what I can tell, his poor wife is doing all the cooking as it is, yet he expects her to follow his diet, and apparently if she wants something different, he is unable to stay on his diet on his own.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if his issues are the main cause of her emotional mood swings and not work, and he is such a good deflector, he would probably make her feel guilty if she mentioned anything. She is working, keeping up the house, and caring for him while he sits at the computer all day, and sleeps. I would probably be stressed too!
He is a completely useless piece of crap and an insult to decent guys.
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He is a completely useless piece of crap and an insult to decent guys.
Not to mention fictional for DUmmy street cred. :thatsright:
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As promised, the gigantic primitive updated us:
Ege Bamyasi
NOMINATED FOR TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
please note--nominated as the Systematic Chaos primitive
December 6, 2009
Jeanette is out to shop just a bit, so I thought I'd post rather quickly now before having more to say tomorrow while she's back at work and I have almost all the time in the world.
Everything seems like it should work itself out at Jeanette's job. Time will tell but for now we're cautiously optimistic that experience will help her do the job better whether or not there is proper coaching and Q&A time. Borrowing from the whole TARP and bailout spectacle, she's just "too smart to fail".
We've spent the weekend together trying to be as close and cuddly as my shoulder situation will allow, and have been playing games and watching movies otherwise. It's been a fun weekend.
It's late but I haven't had anything to eat yet today. We're hoping that there's still some decent fresh ears of corn to be found at the store because corn on the cob just sounds delish. If not, we'll just settle for frozen. We're also going to have salad and a batch of rice going in the cooker for veggie fried rice later tonight and tomorrow. May get some mushrooms and frozen fruit as well; mushrooms for the rice and frozen fruit for batches of slow cooker oatmeal. It's cold enough now that in the mornings it's maybe a good idea to have some hot cereal.
I'm still waiting for my cough to go completely away. I can feel a whole bunch of goo trying to work its way out of my chest, and there's still a persistent tickle in the back of my throat, but I think the worst is behind me. Honestly, my stomach muscles hurt like hell at this point from all the massive hacking I've done. I like to pretend it's from doing lots and lots of ab crunches. Not there yet, but hopefully soon!
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We've spent the weekend together trying to be as close and cuddly as my shoulder situation will allow,
Wonder if the weekend really happened that way. There is almost nothing that is more infuriating than someone not pulling his/her weight, whether it's in a friendship situation or a marriage. Call me old-fashioned, but I think it goes especially in the case of a man not providing in the least. All that computer goofing off....I would have left his ass long ago.
That potatoes, rice, & oatmeal diet....it's all they can afford. I hope Jeanette doesn't become ill from it. It sounds positively medieval.
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Jeanette is out to shop just a bit, so I thought I'd post rather quickly now before having more to say tomorrow while she's back at work and I have almost all the time in the world.
Does she unplug the 'puter when she's home? Trying to get him to do something else, maybe?
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If everything this lard ass says is true, he has to be biggest POS loser I have ever heard of. How or what causes a woman to have such low self esteem and personal loathing as to put up with this oversized turd?
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I can't imagine cuddling up to someone that size, I'd be afraid I'd get lost in the rolls of fat and suffocate. I'll bet she's always on top, too.
Cindie
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If everything this lard ass says is true, he has to be biggest POS loser I have ever heard of. How or what causes a woman to have such low self esteem and personal loathing as to put up with this oversized turd?
Hard to guess at but have seen way too many ladies get with losers and then stay.
Guessing it is more a case where the fear of the unknown is greater then the misery of the known.
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I'll bet she's always on top, too.
Cindie
Oh, yeah, a couple of weeks ago he described that in some detail. Said it was very painful for him to endure, but you know how he'll do anything to take care of Jeanette.
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Oh, yeah, a couple of weeks ago he described that in some detail. Said it was very painful for him to endure, but you know how he'll do anything to take care of Jeanette.
Yeah, that gallon of mind bleach is for me...
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As I understood it, he couldn't even do the girl on top thing. They tried it on the side. No way. Mind bleach indeed. Mine did not work, as you can see.
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Frank, that word has been around a long time. We used it when I was in college in the early 80's. It is even the title of a rock and roll song.
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Copasetic-lyrics-Local-H/13239863B027D40548256E88000BC103
PS, I nominate this song as the official DUmmy theme song.
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I can't imagine cuddling up to someone that size, I'd be afraid I'd get lost in the rolls of fat and suffocate. I'll bet she's always on top, too.
The 150-pound wifelet is always on top.
The gigantic primitive frankly admitted it some time ago.
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The 150-pound wifelet is always on top.
I don't know. Even with the Barcalounger in its fully-reclined position, the behemoth's likely topography would make Jeanette's task a difficult one.
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Oh.My.Gag
No more....no more.
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Geez! Imagine what that room smells like during! :-) :puke:
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I don't think it's possible, anyway. I hear when you get really fat like that, it "disappears." No wonder she's having an affair.
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I don't think it's possible, anyway. I hear when you get really fat like that, it "disappears." No wonder she's having an affair.
AHHHHHHHH Through the grape vine I was told that for every 20 pounds over weight a man looses an inch of his manhood.
It really doesn't go away, it is still there but with the weight appears to have shrunk.
The problem of trying to use this tool is when the body fat over shadows the tool. At 50-75 pounds of belly fat a man who at one time was considered HUNG will have to fashion some kind of sling to hold his belly out of the way. Like a belly bra.
At 100-200 pounds the poor man will have to use both hands to pee. one to hold the belly out of the way and the other to try to find the darn tool.
This condition can be lethal to a sex partner, they can smother from the weight of the fat, or if on top, the weight of all that fat can cause black and blue bruises from trying to work through the fat to get to the tool.
What I don't understand is why a man will give up his sex life for food. There has to be more going on with men who give up most sex with their wife for a diet of Ding-Dongs and Twinkies.
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I don't think it's possible, anyway. I hear when you get really fat like that, it "disappears." No wonder she's having an affair.
Maybe so, but if she burrows deeply enough into the right fat roll.....
Now that's romantic.
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Dear God -- the direction this thread is taking . . . :puke:
Is there a CC version of the primitives' DUzy? If so, I'm nominating this one!
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Maybe so, but if she burrows deeply enough into the right fat roll.....
Now that's romantic.
Sort of like a hog digging for truffles ?------------Snort, snort.
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Oh ick. And I just got through eating dinner. And we had veggies, too. :rotf:
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There has to be more going on with men who give up most sex with their wife for a diet of Ding-Dongs
Now if that doesn't describe a good majority of males at the dump, I don't know what does.
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Now if that doesn't describe a good majority of males at the dump, I don't know what does.
Now, wait a minute! Remember, you're talking about DUmpettes here. Given a choice between a roll in the hay with Warpy, or hippywife, or cali, or (shudder) undergroundpanther, and a plate full of DingDongs and HoHos, I'm going the pastry route. I've said before that the worst I ever had was still pretty good, but a man has to set some boundaries.
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As vile as the images this thread evokes are, I have no explanation for why I keep checking the updates!
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As vile as the images this thread evokes are, I have no explanation for why I keep checking the updates!
You keep checking because, essentially like everybody else here, you're curious if the gigantic primitive's down to 400 pounds yet and pounding the pavements looking for a job.
That's why I watch the gigantic primitive, because he's spending my money, not working and living on the dole instead.
I swear on the Head of St. John the Baptist that's my only reason.
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I believe that Jeanette can't afford to leave. If she could, she would.
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I believe that Jeanette can't afford to leave. If she could, she would.
I bet everything is in her name....
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I believe that Jeanette can't afford to leave. If she could, she would.
Naw, Jeanette has it too good. Her and 'ol Joe get some of the gov't money her husband brings in. Her and 'ol Joe get to knock boots once in awhile, she is comfortable. She has a husband and a live in boyfriend..... She isn't going anywhere soon.
The Gigantic Primitive wouldn't/won't kick her out when he finds out either because SHE does all the taking care of him.
Nope, I maintain that Jeanette and Joe are an item and GP doesn't know or doesn't want to know.
KC
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Another update from the gigantic primitive.
Someone asked him what his wife does for a living.
Ege Bamyasi
December 8, 2009
Um, she works in a call center. The inbound, customer service/tech support kind. Over four years with the place, and her pay has barely increased above what the base was at the time of her hire. I guess that helps to explain why gross incompetence is seemingly king around the place.
I've been alternating between sleeping and hoarking, and not doing a whole lot else. I think this is going to be one of those times where whatever I have will "kick off its shoes and make itself at home". It seems to be just lingering. Oh, well.
Had rice this morning, and not sure what we'll have tonight. Probably potatoes.
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I've been alternating between sleeping and hoarking
Do I want to know?
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I believe that Jeanette can't afford to leave. If she could, she would.
I doubt it. I think when Jeanette sees that quarter-ton of lard, splayed out on the Barcalounger, glistening with sweat, engrossed in slaying the Druids in his premium computer game, when she sees and smells those open, suppurating ulcers all over his legs, when she gets out her washtub and small shovel to start mixing the vegetables for his evening feeding, when she listens to his whining about not having shoes that would fit toilet seat lids, she recalls that quote from General Patton, as he viewed the carnage of war, "I love it. God help me I do love it so." Then she gets all excited and starts trying again to climb on board.
But soon, he'll be all slimmed down, out pounding the pavement in the hot Las Vegas sun, seeking to resume his interrupted career.
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I doubt it. I think when Jeanette sees that quarter-ton of lard, splayed out on the Barcalounger, glistening with sweat, engrossed in slaying the Druids in his premium computer game, when she sees and smells those open, suppurating ulcers all over his legs, when she gets out her washtub and small shovel to start mixing the vegetables for his evening feeding, when she listens to his whining about not having shoes that would fit toilet seat lids, she recalls that quote from General Patton, as he viewed the carnage of war, "I love it. God help me I do love it so." Then she gets all excited and starts trying again to climb on board.
Holy crap -- why do I keep checking for new posts in here??? :-) I can't stop laughing at this stuff, though! :hyper:
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Holy crap -- why do I keep checking for new posts in here??? :-) I can't stop laughing at this stuff, though! :hyper:
The background on the gigantic primitive's now on the nomination thread, current last page. I'm not sure how I'm going to do things, what with the storm and snow and wind interefering with my internet connection, but I'm going to try to give some backgrounds on nominated primitives, before the voting starts on Saturday.
You keep checking for new posts, madam, because like me, you're anxious for the gigantic primitive to get down to 400 pounds, and off the dole.
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Now, wait a minute! Remember, you're talking about DUmpettes here. Given a choice between a roll in the hay with Warpy, or hippywife, or cali, or (shudder) undergroundpanther, and a plate full of DingDongs and HoHos, I'm going the pastry route. I've said before that the worst I ever had was still pretty good, but a man has to set some boundaries.
I have to concur here. I have been using computers since 1986 starting with a Commodore 64. Computers have been a major part of my life for the past 23+ years. That being said, prior to being married in 1997, I always said if I could have good sex with my computers I would marry one. Now we have so much Internet porn....but I AM married now...
DingDongs, beer, and Internet porn would be infinitely more preferred to even being in the same room with a DUmmy possessing female genitalia let along pointing Mr. Happy in her, "it's" direction.
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Do I want to know?
I imagine it's akin to the wet sound of a whale surfacing and blowing. Which orifice he uses to make that is anyone's guess.
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I have to concur here. I have been using computers since 1986 starting with a Commodore 64. Computers have been a major part of my life for the past 23+ years. That being said, prior to being married in 1997, I always said if I could have good sex with my computers I would marry one. Now we have so much Internet porn....but I AM married now...
DingDongs, beer, and Internet porn would be infinitely more preferred to even being in the same room with a DUmmy possessing female genitalia let along pointing Mr. Happy in her, "it's" direction.
I'm with you Pat, the thought of getting sloppy seconds from one of the female prims is absolutely my worst nightmare. I'm afraid I'd definitely have to stick with "Mother Thumb and her four Sisters"!
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when she gets out her washtub and small shovel to start mixing the vegetables for his evening feeding, when she listens to his whining about not having shoes that would fit toilet seat lids,.....
Oh my God, Gobucks, I can't catch my breath. :rotf: :lmao: What a way with words.
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The latest:
Ege Bamyasi
December 11, 2009
I don't have a whole lot to report right now. I've been in bed as much as 18 hours each of the last few days, because I don't cough when I'm horizontal. Soon as I'm up and about -- or Lord help me, trying to speak in more than two word phrases -- I'm back to intermittent hacking. I'm taking Mucinex DM and some regular cold medication and those are helping, but the road to recovery is just soooooo slow.
As far as food goes, we've been having a lot of potatoes and rice. We found out a way to make really good "cheeze" sauce with nutritional yeast, so we made a batch of potatoes au gratin with some veggies thrown in. It was good enough that even our roommate Joe had some. We're also major suckers for that maple-mustard glazed potato recipe that Letha posted in her blog. Other than that, just rice (beans are all used up now, I think), and bananas for snacks. All good stuff.
I just wanted to let everyone know I'm doing okay aside from the lingering cough. Jeanette is finally going to be out of training now, and therefore her only day off this week is tomorrow. After that she'll be off on Thursdays and Fridays. I'm going to do my utmost to make her one day off a good one, so I likely won't be posting here until Sunday. I haven't replied in too many journals, but I am reading them, just so y'all know that. Take care everyone, and have a great weekend!
I've been watching the gigantic primitive's chart (not duplicated here) for some weeks now, concerned if the line doesn't drop, it's going to hold up the gigantic primitive's job search.
It hasn't dropped for a while; it's been pretty straight since the end of July 2009.
Damn.
I really want him to get down to 400 some time the week between Christmas and New Year's, so that shortly after New Year's Day, he can put on a nice suit, dust off the resume, and pound the pavements looking for a job.
But with circa 40 pounds to go, that might not happen.
Damn.
Think of what a great Christmas present it wuuld've made for his wife, "Hey, honey, you can stop working so hard now--I got a job!"
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The latest:
I've been watching the gigantic primitive's chart (not duplicated here) for some weeks now, concerned if the line doesn't drop, it's going to hold up the gigantic primitive's job search.
It hasn't dropped for a while; it's been pretty straight since the end of July 2009.
Damn.
I really want him to get down to 400 some time the week between Christmas and New Year's, so that shortly after New Year's Day, he can put on a nice suit, dust off the resume, and pound the pavements looking for a job.
But with circa 40 pounds to go, that might not happen.
Damn.
Think of what a great Christmas present it wuuld've made for his wife, "Hey, honey, you can stop working so hard now--I got a job!"
Coach, you'd be better off waiting for Satan to show up in an insulated snowsuit. If the gigantic primitive actually went out to look for a job, he would be showing his dear wife that he actually wants to take responsibility for himself, and stop being a victim. He'll never do that.
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The latest:
I've been watching the gigantic primitive's chart (not duplicated here) for some weeks now, concerned if the line doesn't drop, it's going to hold up the gigantic primitive's job search.
It hasn't dropped for a while; it's been pretty straight since the end of July 2009.
Damn.
I really want him to get down to 400 some time the week between Christmas and New Year's, so that shortly after New Year's Day, he can put on a nice suit, dust off the resume, and pound the pavements looking for a job.
But with circa 40 pounds to go, that might not happen.
Damn.
Think of what a great Christmas present it wuuld've made for his wife, "Hey, honey, you can stop working so hard now--I got a job!"
I have the feeling Frank that he could drop 250 lbs and would still have a million excuses as to why he needs to be waited on hand and foot.
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I have the feeling Frank that he could drop 250 lbs and would still have a million excuses as to why he needs to be waited on hand and foot.
That's what that 404-pound guy who shovels grain at the local grain elevator says.
He doesn't do the internet, but he's taken quite an interest in the gigantic primitive.
He says there's two sorts of fat people; people who are fat because they eat well, and people who are fat simply because they're lazy sit-arounds.
He usually categorizes governmental employees in the latter.
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You know, I'm no medical professional, and so honestly don't know.
The gigantic primitive's been on this plateau for the longest time.
So the way I see it, there's three possibilities of why that is:
(a) lack of physical activity;
(b) if the diet is as stated, it's not a weight-losing diet; or
(c) the gigantic primitive's lying about how much, and what, he gorges down.
Anybody care to theorize?
I mean, I've never heard of a potatoes-and-rice diet being recommended for weight loss, but of course I haven't heard everything, and so maybe it is.
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(A) He gets plenty of excerise. Jumping to conclusions and throwing his weight around.
(B) It ain't the potatoes. It's the 2 lb. of butter he puts on top.
(C) He's a DUmmy. They lie. All the time. They lie.
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You know, I'm no medical professional, and so honestly don't know.
The gigantic primitive's been on this plateau for the longest time.
So the way I see it, there's three possibilities of why that is:
(a) lack of physical activity;
(b) if the diet is as stated, it's not a weight-losing diet; or
(c) the gigantic primitive's lying about how much, and what, he gorges down.
Anybody care to theorize?
I mean, I've never heard of a potatoes-and-rice diet being recommended for weight loss, but of course I haven't heard everything, and so maybe it is.
He's lying about what and how much he's eating. Plain and simple. Ever looked to see just how many calories you have to take in to maintain 400 + lbs.? Even with no physical activity you have to take in a BUNCH of calories to keep that weight on.
KC
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He's lying about what and how much he's eating. Plain and simple. Ever looked to see just how many calories you have to take in to maintain 400 + lbs.? Even with no physical activity you have to take in a BUNCH of calories to keep that weight on.
KC
Lord knows that his wife has to work her ass off to keep him in all of that food.
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I don't know if this is accurate or not but here is something I found;
Men:
66 + (6.3 x weight in pounds) + (12.9 x height in inches) - (6.8 x age in years)
Please note that this formula applies only to adults.
Now that is supposed to give you a BMR. Then you use this;
Calculate Activity
Step two: In order to incorporate activity into your daily caloric needs, do the following calculation:
•If you are sedentary : BMR x 20 percent
•If you are lightly active: BMR x 30 percent
•If you are moderately active (You exercise most days a week.): BMR x 40 percent
•If you are very active (You exercise intensely on a daily basis or for prolonged periods.): BMR x 50 percent
•If you are extra active (You do hard labor or are in athletic training.): BMR x 60 percent
Add this number to your BMR.
Using that formula, and if my math and guess are correct I came out with; 4007.4 calories needed to maintain
I used;
420#'s for his weight;
75" for his height;
50 years old;
Sedentary.
If I'm right on the figures and guesses then ol' Giganto here needs to eat 7 Big Macs per day (or the equivalent) to maintain this weight. I'll bet he eats more than that .....
I think it would take more calories than that but this was a quick search and my figures may be off.
KC
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Damn, that's good research, sir, and I thank you.
The gigantic primitive is only 40 years old, and allegedly 6'3".
And stuck at 440 pounds.
Would he need at least one more Big Mac to maintain that?
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Damn, that's good research, sir, and I thank you.
The gigantic primitive is only 40 years old, and allegedly 6'3".
And stuck at 440 pounds.
Would he need at least one more Big Mac to maintain that?
Well, using those numbers I came up with 4,240.2 calories to maintain 440#'s for a total of 7.36 Big Macs per day.
...... only 40 years old?! Damn. What a friggin' waste of skin.
KC
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It gets worse when one figures in the 40 years of age.
I come up with 6928 calories a day, but I used pen-and-paper, not a calculator, and so I might be off.
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It gets worse when one figures in the 40 years of age.
I come up with 6928 calories a day, but I used pen-and-paper, not a calculator, and so I might be off.
Are you putting his height in inches? Here is the formula as I'm seeing it;
66 + 2,772 + 967.5 - 272 = 3533.5
3533.5 x .2 = 706.7
3533.5 + 706.7 = 4240.2
If that number is right and Giganto is claiming to eat rice and beans he would need to eat;
21.56 cups of rice and beans per day just to maintain the weight. :o
KC
ETA; this works out to a gallon and one third of rice and beans per day.
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Okay, Texacon, sir, I did it again.
You are correct, circa 4240 calories a day.
I had missed a decimal point when scribbling; when I'm using pen-and-paper, the cats like to play with the end of the pen swirling around, and I goofed.
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.....this works out to a gallon and one third of rice and beans per day.
So then.....assuming the posted photograph of the gigantic primitive is really the gigantic primitive, his weight of circa 440 pounds and his age of 40 years seems credible.
And if that is so, then the gigantic primitive's either lying about his chow intake, or lying about what his chow intake consists of, or both.
Reasonable?
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Okay, Texacon, sir, I did it again.
You are correct, circa 4240 calories a day.
I had missed a decimal point when scribbling; when I'm using pen-and-paper, the cats like to play with the end of the pen swirling around, and I goofed.
When I was looking some of that stuff up I realized that if Giganto did just a LITTLE bit of exercise and still ate that amount of food he would be losing weight. I don't mean anything harsh either. 3 x per week x 20 minutes of MILD exercise and he would be losing weight.
Or he could just eat 15 cups of the rice and beans and the weight would be falling off him.
:whatever:
KC
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So then.....assuming the posted photograph of the gigantic primitive is really the gigantic primitive, his weight of circa 440 pounds and his age of 40 years seems credible.
And if that is so, then the gigantic primitive's either lying about his chow intake, or lying about what his chow intake consists of, or both.
Reasonable?
Absolutely.
99.9% of overweight people delude themselves on what they actually eat. (yeah, I pulled that stat out of my butt). I have read several articles about overweight people being put on a diet of what they 'claim' to eat and every one of them lost weight.
KC
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Are you putting his height in inches? Here is the formula as I'm seeing it;
66 + 2,772 + 967.5 - 272 = 3533.5
3533.5 x .2 = 706.7
3533.5 + 706.7 = 4240.2
If that number is right and Giganto is claiming to eat rice and beans he would need to eat;
21.56 cups of rice and beans per day just to maintain the weight. :o
KC
ETA; this works out to a gallon and one third of rice and beans per day.
Jeanette has to get another job. :o
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Jeanette has to get another job. :o
She probably wouldn't mind. Can you imagine the hoarking going on with him eating a gallon of beans every day?
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With the amount of time it takes Giganto to eat Jeanette gets some good 'quality' time with good 'ol Joe!
KC
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She probably wouldn't mind. Can you imagine the hoarking going on with him eating a gallon of beans every day?
Especially after posting that at least for a while Jeanette had to wipe him after he crapped.
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Especially after posting that at least for a while Jeanette had to wipe him after he crapped.
Some things are best left unsaid or recalled. :hammer:
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After reading this thread , I almost think I could stand to watch 2 girls/1 cup. Nope, I still couldn't, but this thread raises some disgusting images.
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Man why hasn't this bubble burst yet?
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21.56 cups of rice and beans per day just to maintain the weight.
KC
ETA; this works out to a gallon and one third of rice and beans per day.
Then if you add in the water it takes to cook all that rice and beans, you see why I said she mixes his food with a shovel, in a washtub. The slug eats exactly like a hippopotamus at the zoo, and has a physique to match.
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A gallon of food a day? Who has that kind of time? I bet if it was the same thing every day for every meal, he'd lose interest in eating. Slip him a couple vitamins and let him fend for himself.
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I wonder if the Graf Zeppelin primitive is a drinker. Beer sure does put on the weight.
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So then.....assuming the posted photograph of the gigantic primitive is really the gigantic primitive, his weight of circa 440 pounds and his age of 40 years seems credible.
And if that is so, then the gigantic primitive's either lying about his chow intake, or lying about what his chow intake consists of, or both.
Reasonable?
This is a really interesting thread~ albeit the colorful vignette's.
Obesity is a leading killer in this country~Diabetes is #1 and the two go hand in hand. It is something that should not be taken lightly and we all know that. Logic will tell us that even if we are not as eloquent with the math as Texacon and Franksolich are; if we exercise and eat correctly, we should loose weight.
However, the math is not that simple when you begin to look at it from the heart. This man and his marriage is obviously troubled. We all have our demons and we have to be frank with ourselves and know that any and all addictions are hard to deal with.
It is so easy to tell someone what to do or to hand them a formula for success. The one thing that we cannot do it look into the soul of that person and get the cobwebs out and see the real ghosts. Can we shoo away the ghosts or rewire the obvious bad wiring?
He and his wife suffer from the same demons, but his is easier to see. Just as the smoker is easy to spot or smell. NO ONE is exempt- none are perfect! They are each others support system. Every addict has some sort of support system.
Look in the mirror- name your demon(s)- name your support system!
We are all aware that there are reality shows about the obese and that there are Nursing homes that cater to them. I watch them from time to time and I am truly amazed that so many are given quality care and unbelievable opportunity and still remain in a seemingly endless loop of hopelessness.
Also- I am sure that you are know that our tax dollars are spent on all of their associated pathologies. Even drug addicts and alcoholics~ they get disability and/or jail time.
No matter- it is obvious that we are not offering these "addicts" what they really need. BUT- what do they really need?
At any rate- after the holidays, I would like to do a post on addictions and obesity in the health section. I do hope that you join me there to see if we can discuss these problems.
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Thank you, Patriot Lady.
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Resurrected from the deeper part of the archives because some lurking primitive's reading it, and it needs made easier to find.
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Had leftover beans, corn tortillas and salsa today.
Just can the leftovers, and you'll have yourself a fine self defense weapon, according to some of your fellow primitives.
:lmao:
CMD
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Resurrected from the deeper part of the archives because some lurking primitive's reading it, and it needs made easier to find.
Damn, I was hoping the big fella had posted about how his wife was all deflated about the election results on Scammers memorial page. :hyper: :-) What ever happened to him.
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Damn, I was hoping the big fella had posted about how his wife was all deflated about the election results on Scammers memorial page. :hyper: :-) What ever happened to him.
Wow, just went back and looked at the the previous pages and realized it was the Vegas Leviathan not Diabeticman. Joke doesn't work as well.
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Damn, I was hoping the big fella had posted about how his wife was all deflated about the election results on Scammers memorial page. :hyper: :-) What ever happened to him.
He died about a year or so ago.
From the way Jeanette described it, I suspect it was an, ahem, "unintentional" overdose of his pharmaceuticals, which sometimes happen, and he was very unhappy.
Jeanette then took Joe, the obese guy living with them, under her wing.
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He died about a year or so ago.
From the way Jeanette described it, I suspect it was an, ahem, "unintentional" overdose of his pharmaceuticals, which sometimes happen, and he was very unhappy.
Jeanette then took Joe, the obese guy living with them, under her wing.
Oh really? I seem to recall she came over here shorty after Kirk's (was that his name?) death and gave us shit. I did not know she shacked up with another guy or even that there was another guy living there... obese or otherwise.
I wondered what happened to her when the LVL shuffled off this mortal coil.
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Oh really? I seem to recall she came over here shorty after Kirk's (was that his name?) death and gave us shit. I did not know she shacked up with another guy or even that there was another guy living there... obese or otherwise.
I wondered what happened to her when the LVL shuffled off this mortal coil.
Surely you remember the roommate Joe.
A grossly obese guy who sat in his darkened bedroom all day long, excepting when he had to shuffle to the bathroom. Never helped with the housework, never helped with errands.
There was some sinister reason he was with them, but the gigantic primitive never told us. Maybe he had something "on" the gigantic primitive, and was blackmailing him.
Anyway, after the gigantic primitive died, since Jeanette had nowhere to go, and since Joe needed help, she then adhered to him, despite our warnings that probably she shouldn't. I don't imagine it ended well. Maybe Joe killed her by now.
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Oh really? I seem to recall she came over here shorty after Kirk's (was that his name?) death and gave us shit. I did not know she shacked up with another guy or even that there was another guy living there... obese or otherwise.
I wondered what happened to her when the LVL shuffled off this mortal coil.
I only hope they got rid of all of the damned cats and dealt with the flea and bedbug infestation once and for all.