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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on December 05, 2009, 06:45:51 PM
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Dec-05-09 05:11 PM
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Time to end ban on gay men giving blood?
Time to end ban on gay men giving blood?
The National AIDS Trust has used World AIDS day as an opportunity to increase pressure on the National Blood Transfusion service (NBTS) to change its policy on stopping gay men from donating blood.
This issue recently came to prominence at the University of Lincoln in November when the university’s Lesbian Gay Bisexual and Transgender society (LBGT) held a demonstration outside the the Engine Shed while a blood donation session took place.
At the time the LGBT organised a petition which received hundreds of signatures in support and The Linc also held a poll which found that 98% of students asked supported the LGBT’s cause. Despite this, and many similar protests that have taken place around the country, the ban which has been in place since the 1980’s still remains.
Although there is widespread support for rescinding the ban on gay men giving blood, not everyone would advocate a change to the screening policy. John McCavish a Senior Lecturer in Social Work at the university explained that while he was full of admiration for LGBT society for highlighting an important issue and looking to defend gay men against discrimination, he argued that this issue was not about discrimination but rather managing risk. McCavish goes on to say that the policy of the National Blood Transfusion Service was simply looking to supply safe blood and not stigmatise gay men.
http://thelinc.co.uk/2009/12/time-to-end-ban-on-gay-men...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7163238
What the DUmmies don't get this is not about hating gays it's about not letting high risk people donate blood. Like it or not DUmmies people who engage in gay sex are at a higher risk than straight monogamous people. In fact its not just gays that are banned but heterosexuals who engage in high risk (sleeping with hookers etc) are also banned.
harkadog Donating Member (367 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Dec-05-09 05:24 PM
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1. Long past time
The blood is 100% tested for various blood borne diseases no matter who donates it. The ban is irrational.
And HIV can take awhile to show up meanwhile someone who got "clean blood" contracts HIV.
PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Dec-05-09 05:27 PM
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Absolutely. The American Red Cross has been trying to get the ban lifted.
Hmmm first I heard of that.
struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Dec-05-09 06:46 PM
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6. The demographics of infection vary country to country. In the US, here is the data
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 06:47 PM by struggle4progress
for males as of the end of 2007:
Estimated adult and adolescent males living with AIDS by race/ethnicity and exposure category, all years to the end of 2007 (50 states and D.C.)
http://www.avert.org/usa-race-age.htm
The table shows that 99% of all known male infections in the US are believed to have originated from Male-to-male sexual contact (61%), Injection drug use (18%), some combination of Male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use (8%), and High-risk heterosexual contact (11%)
The same site contains the data for Estimated adult and adolescent females living with AIDS by race/ethnicity and exposure category, all years to the end of 2007 (50 states and D.C.)
This second table shows that 98% of all known female infections in the US are believed to have originated from Injection drug use (32%) and High-risk heterosexual contact (66%)
Blood Eligibility Guidelines
http://www.redcross.org/en/eligibility
... Nearly all people infected with HIV through blood transfusions received those transfusions before 1985, the year HIV testing began for all donated blood ... U.S. blood donations have been screened for antibodies to HIV-1 since March 1985 and HIV-2 since June 1992 ... An estimated 1 in 450,000 to 1 in 660,000 donations per year are infectious for HIV but are not detected by current antibody screening tests. In August 1995, the FDA recommended that all donated blood and plasma also be screened for HIV-1 p24 antigen ... http://aids.about.com/cs/hivtesting/f/bloodsupply.htm
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Dec-05-09 07:08 PM
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7. Gee, you could have just said "no"
lol yeah then you wouldn't have to try to argue facts if he just had said no.
The rest of the posts all say yes.
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How about if hospitals ask political affiliation before giving a transfusion.
Liberals will get blood from a gay man.
Conservatives won't.
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So one person is willing to face the fact that engaging in male homosexual sex greatly increases you rate of HIV/AIDS and the rests will happily go :lalala: while patients receiving blood transfusions begin contracting HIV. :mental:
I actually donated blood today. :cheersmate:
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It would be fine to have queers giving blood, if the only people receiving it were other queers.
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The National AIDS Trust has used World AIDS day as an opportunity to increase pressure on the National Blood Transfusion service (NBTS) to change its policy on stopping gay men from donating blood.
Yes lets do this!!! That way that myth of the hetero AIDS epidemic can FINALLY come true!!!
:whatever:
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I think it's high time we have all gay men donate blood. I propose we extract it via a simple 12ga blast to the head area. Then the blood supply will be safe from these turd burglars who think spreading around the diseases they're cursed with is just peachy keen.
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People who get tattoos can't give blood for some time (not 100% sure of the exact time pd). They aren't taking to the streets.
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People who get tattoos can't give blood for some time (not 100% sure of the exact time pd). They aren't taking to the streets.
6 months I believe and maybe they should take to the streets. :-)
Heck people deployed to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, etc were at one time also banned for a year (not sure if that still is the case).
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The Straight Story
Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Sat Dec-05-09 05:11 PM
Time to end ban on gay men giving blood?
You first. :whatever:
Did TSS finally get a job? I see he managed to donate to the DUmp. I wonder which one of his children went hungry for that privilege.
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If I ever need a transfusion, I want blood from the Mother Superior of a convent, and she better not have tattoos. You guys can take blood from tattooed queer body piercers if you like.
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People who get tattoos can't give blood for some time (not 100% sure of the exact time pd). They aren't taking to the streets.
And anyone that has been to Europe for longer then 6 months is banned from giving blood untill 15 years have passed.
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If I ever need a transfusion, I want blood from the Mother Superior of a convent, and she better not have tattoos. You guys can take blood from tattooed queer body piercers if you like.
I've had surgery three times, looking at my fourth. I donate my own blood, thank you! You just go in ahead of time and they store your own plasma. No big deal. At least if you're gonna get sumpin, you already had it.
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When my 14 year old son was stabbed in the arm, he was bleeding VERY heavily and I grabbed his arm above the wound to stop the bleeding until we got to the hospital. I wasn't allowed to give blood for a year afterward because I'd had contact with another person's blood. Maybe I should have sued...
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