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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on December 03, 2009, 10:56:40 AM
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Oh my.
SHRED (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 08:45 AM
Original message
Anyone else shocked at how many...
...here on the DU are pro-war in Afghanistan?
Of course we outnumber them but holy cow.
It's a big bonfire, so only a few primitive quotes were loaded onto the boat and brought over here.
AndyA (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 08:49 AM
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2. It seems they support Saint Obama above all else.
They are the current Bushies.
I would hope that Obama would expect to be challenged on these things, and that he would not expect undying devotion and approval from his supporters. Because if he didn't feel that way, it would make him incurious and inflexible, which is what we had with George Bush.
Disclaimer for Obama cheerleaders: I voted for Obama, and I still support him. I do not agree with everything he has done. I am glad McSame/Palin didn't win. I don't want Palin in 2012. etc.
Sukie (532 posts) Thu Dec-03-09 09:38 AM
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32. Since you used the term, "saint" in describing Obama, I am quite sure you are not an honest DUer.
Oh, the Andy primitive's a bona fide primitive all right; it was the Andy primitive who some months ago wondered why Bo couldn't just fire Bela Pelosi and Harry Reid.
Betraying the the "average" primitive level of knowledge about politics.
sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 09:46 AM
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34. Not classy at all dude
"Saint Obama" "current Bushies"
I can disagree with people around here quite a bit but bush league name-calling like the above is just pathetic.
The Allentown dude primitive:
AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 08:49 AM
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3. No
If Barack Obama came to their house and slapped them in the face and told them to grab a mop, they'd run to their garage to get the literal mop.
NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 08:53 AM
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5. what kills me is when Bush did it, there was outrage, but Obama's cool and I am/was/am??? a big Obama supporter. I worked for his team going back to early February. I worked in two states and multiple cities. I dont just turn off my criticism button because I voted for the guy. I knew at the time that he said Afghanistan was dangerous, but I still dont like ANY ESCALATION of war, either war. I really did not like his Bushisms and fearmongering about new attacks here and abroad.
SHRED (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 08:54 AM
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7. That is a disease
And here it is:
Partisan War Syndrome
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/2354 /
SHRED (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 08:56 AM
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9. I knew Obama was DLC oriented
I just didn't realize he was this far to the right.
boston bean (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 08:55 AM
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8. I saw one saying, who has been here quite a while, say we must not know what obama knows and that's scary.
that comment was so shocking to me. felt like i was read freeperville and their reasoning for supporting bush.
That must've been the rich kid the grazing primitive who said that, that the primitives aren't supposed to know what Bo knows, and just trust Bo.
I could be wrong, but it sounds like the rich kid the grazing primitive.
Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 09:25 AM
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30. To crap like that my response is:
"then that must mean we lack sufficient transparency to be a democracy."
Dogtown (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 10:19 AM
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37. "The mysteries of God are beyond human comprehension."
Yes, that sort of attitude, for *ANY* deity or personage, is very troubling. It suggests we're stupid children who should be fed at the "little table".
QC (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 08:58 AM
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11. I'm not shocked at all. I would be shocked if it were otherwise.
I've spent the past two years here watching people who were once staunch liberals and progressives constantly shift their positions rightward to keep them precisely calibrated to Obama's.
Shocked? No. I'm not even mildly surprised. Disgusted, of course, but not surprised.
SHRED (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 09:07 AM
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17. and I have been shifting further Left
QC (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 09:15 AM
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23. It really is amazing how far--and hard--this place lurched to the right once it became Obama Underground.
I used to feel like something of a centrist type here, but now I am a commie, yet my own beliefs haven't changed.
It's been amazing seeing people who once loved to play "More Progressive Than Thou" singing the praises of "pragmatism" (a word they have made me loathe) and banker bailouts. We have gotten a real education in personality cultism here these past couple of years.
More than just "these past couple of years;" more like these past nine years.
The sparkling husband primitive, sonorously bellowing a pronouncement while seated on the porcelain throne in the basement:
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-03-09 09:18 AM
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27. I'm not so sure they're as much pro war as unwavering Obama fans
I also think there's a lot of denial and knee jerk defense of the guy they fawn over whenever anything not complimentary is said about him. I don't think this is a large number, but it is surely a vocal cadre. We all know who they are.
By the way, a primitive further on in the bonfire reminds us all that Dennis Kucinich voted to go into Afghanistan in 2001.
Odd bird, Dennis Kucinich. Also voted to impeach the Impeached One in 1998.