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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on December 02, 2009, 09:34:33 PM
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-02-09 06:20 PM
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I'm going to dicate a DU post from my father sitting beside me - disabled vietnam vet.
Dad doesn't use the internet too well, and has trouble with some of the complexities of forums and what not. But I often read him what I read on Democratic Underground or what I write. After some of the discussions about the war escalation lately, he got pretty emotional and had a lot to say. So I asked him if he wanted a chance to speak for himself here. I told him, he could dictate and I'd type it for him. Here it is:
"What I want to ask is... I don't get how people can be so gung-ho for war and not serve.
"How come its always poor kids like me getting drafted to fight these things?
"You" {he means me} "keep reading me all these posts making excuses for this war" {afghanistan} "but its always someone else or someone else kid that gets killed, isn't it? Everyone's so happy to send other people to war.
"What I don't get about what you read me is, I dunno," {pause} "its like everyone is deciding what they think about war based on whether its supporting the president... like, I mean its like, okay... Obama's for it, now we're all going to go defend it... we're all hawks now!" {laughs} "Yeah, like Bush or Rudy or whoever it was after 9/11 saying we're all new yorkers now.
"Why can't people think about it from the view of the kids that will die. People have no idea, you know, they don't have a clue, not a clue, what war is actually like.
I've seen... I've seen things I'll never be able to describe to another person who wasn't there... I'm sixty-two and I still wake up with nightmares.. you know this." {he was talking to me}
"It's this horror... its literally ruins lives, whether your live or die... you can't ever be the same again. Instead people wave flags and chant the the president and go watch war movies with Ben Affleck in them {lol, I guess he means Pearl Harbor} and pretend like its something romantic."
"I think it ought to be a law or something that people so happy to escalate wars around the world should have to be drafted. Or if they're old like me, then it should be their sons" {and daughters I'm sure he would agree} "who go fight."
Rich people politic and debate, poor people get sent to die or to experience blood soaked horror I'll never be able to explain to the people chanting USA USA or I guess now OBAMA OBAMA.
{at this point I asked Dad whether, if he was typing for himself do the boards, if he'd want to ask anything specific}
"only I guess does it ever bother the people who have never served or who have children who will not sever and thus are totally safe from any cost.. does it every bother them to be such hypocrites?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com//discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7140298
A lot of "I love your dad" type of posts follow. As long as we have a voluntary military, this type of anti-war rant is meaningless. No one is forcing anyone to go fight in any war. The DImRats are the only ones that have even mentioned a draft in the last few decades.
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This could be considered a new genre of bullshit, a "bouncy by proxy".
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Hey "Dad," your primitive child voted for Dear Leader who's sending more "poor kids like me" {he means himself} into war. Bet that's a real kick in the teeth.
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Reader's Digest version of the post?
Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-02-09 06:20 PM
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I'm going to dicate a DU post from my father sitting beside me - disabled vietnam vet.
Blah, blah...
Chickenhawks
Blah, blah...
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Just more meaningless DU BULLSHIT :bs:.....Dear leader has them running in circles. :lmao:
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This could be considered a new genre of bullshit, a "bouncy by proxy".
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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It couldn't bounce if you pumped 4 million volts through it.
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This could be considered a new genre of bullshit, a "bouncy by proxy".
Damn, that's good, sir.
Admirable.
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"How come its always poor kids like me getting drafted to fight these things?
Who has been drafted since Vietnam? Will these people ever get over the Sixties?
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"How come its always poor kids like me getting drafted to fight these things?
Who has been drafted since Vietnam? Will these people ever get over the Sixties?
Remember, the primitives are fossilized in the 1960s.
They still, for example, believe the defense budget is the biggest part of the federal budget.....which it hasn't been since Nixon was president, and that during his first term in office.
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Remember, the primitives are fossilized in the 1960s.
They still, for example, believe the defense budget is the biggest part of the federal budget.....which it hasn't been since Nixon was president, and that during his first term in office.
The Sixties have much to answer for, not least being that it trained a whole generation and generations after to believe that all they have to do is howl loud enough about anything to get their way, and they are somehow politically relevant for doing so, no matter how selfish the issue (like the punks at Berkeley now protesting tuition hikes and faculty being laid off).
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This could be considered a new genre of bullshit, a "bouncy by proxy".
Yeah, it is the second one in as many weeks, isn't it? The previous being the dad in a car crash bouncy. Their own lives being, well, so primitive, that they have to make up imaginary people to live out their bouncy fantasies.
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Yeah, it is the second one in as many weeks, isn't it? The previous being the dad in a car crash bouncy. Their own lives being, well, so primitive, that they have to make up imaginary people to live out their bouncy fantasies.
Come to think of it, though, wasn't "bouncy by proxy" the original bouncy format? Seems to me, the cops jumped out of the bushes to accost DUmmy Bouncy Balls's boss, not the Bounster herownself.