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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 29, 2009, 01:59:05 PM
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Oh my.
The things the primitives shouldn't worry about; Bo took care of all this at 11:01 a.m. January 20, 2009, just like the primitives promised us Bo would.
truedelphi (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-27-09 03:53 AM
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Unemployment - the Pictorial Graph -- very scary and impressive
Someone on another blog ("Susan") posted the link to this.
Notice how the blackness overtakes the map year by year. In just a short time, we've been blacked out!
http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/mul...
Be sure and hit PLAY for the full effect...
Can someone illuminate franksolich what the graph's like?
Antique computer in use, here.
OffWithTheirHeads (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-27-09 04:28 AM
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1. Wow
franksolich's favorite primitive:
Selatius (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-27-09 05:21 AM
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2. California is one of the largest victims of the Great Recession.
It was a microcosm of the US economy in the years of deregulation and securities fraud.
doodadem (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-28-09 05:36 AM
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16. My husband's new job has fizzled
We're in Calif. The husband was laid off a year and a half ago from his job as a network engineer. Last month, he started with a friend's little co. (4 people) installing purification systems for large municipal water supplies down south. Now, it looks like he's out of work again because even though the company has tons of business, they are just not getting paid. No cash flow. Exactly the kind of situation the stimulus was supposed to help.
There has got to be some kind of moratorium on foreclosures. I'd like to see a graph done like this showing the foreclosure and suicide correlation.
truedelphi (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-28-09 08:11 PM
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17. Sorry to hear about this.
I know the pain and the stress when this happens. And for many of us, we lived (or thought we did) within our means, and thought that our scrupulous paying into retirement funds etc would tide us over until a new job was found. (Should they ever be needed.)
Since even the Biggest Players say they never knew this could happen, how can we be blamed?
But like you say, those who face foreclosure are at great risk for deliberate and inadvertent suoicide (one caused by deliberate action, the other by the factors of stroke and heart attacks.)
I blame our state legislators as well as Congress and the President. In the thirties, a total of 34 states forbid foreclosing on homes! Thirty four states!
If they are not foreclosing on the heads of AIG, Goldman Sachs and the others that we bailed out, we shouldn't be forecolsed upon either.
doodadem (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-28-09 09:51 PM
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18. 34 states?!
That's amazing. Do you have an article or other reference on this info?
truedelphi (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-28-09 10:34 PM
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20. Like much of what I know abt 20th Century American history,
It comes either from Howard Zinn's History of America, or another equally impressive "Radical history" of the USA. (Don't remember the title, but could check out my bookcase if you desire it.)
Oh and I saw the statistic mentioned on a recent film history of Union Organizers and their lives in New York City, 1928 to 1935, aired on PBS.
The above primitive's read only two books about American history?
The la pasionara primitive, who promised to leave the United States if George Bush was re-elected in 2004, but alas who's still here:
Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-27-09 03:31 PM
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3. Terrifying! Decades of Repugnicans have destroyed our country.
We must stop those sick a-holes from being in office for the next century!
knightinwhitesatin (69 posts) Fri Nov-27-09 03:33 PM
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4. What are they doing in Nebraska and can we copy it nationally?
truedelphi (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-27-09 03:56 PM
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5. What I think is that most in the Great Plains states are used to a farming based employment scenario - and therefore many people are off the grid. They cannot file for unemployment to begin with - so now that times are even tighter, they are not counted.
Of course, the Bush era disdain for environmental sanctions also heated up the Big Mining interests - so maybe the mining for things like coal, oil shale etc. are helping that economy (At a huge expense to the environment.) I know that the state of Colorado is heavily impacted by the search for Natural Gas as well as the fore mentioned items.
One of the cable channels had an "indie" documentary on "Dual Estates" - in places like Colorado, people bought homes in lovely and gorgeous natural environs. Only to realize a decade later what it meant on their house title that they owned the buildings but not the land beneath the buildings. So the Natural Gas Corporation comes in from the early 1990's on, and causes explosions deep beneath the foundation of your home. The occupants end up sick with environemntal illnesses - early Parkinson's, Multiple Sclerosis, and Multiple Chemical Illness. But hey - it helps meet our nation's energy needs, and it helps the local economy.
maxpower (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-27-09 04:01 PM
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6. Stunning
The mountain man primitive who, like all men, nightly pitches his tent one day's march nearer the mausoleum:
ThomWV (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-27-09 04:15 PM
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7. Someone please explain why in the central east the state lines are defined by unemployment?
Look at the map once its run its course. From the border with canada west of the great lakes all the way down the Florida's northern border you can clearly see each state's boundaries defined by the black of unemployment. Its almost like someone drew in the state lines with a black magic marker county-block by block. Why is it that counties on the fringe of state lines have what appears to be notable higher unemployment than the state's interior.
This really jumped out at me - I'm surprised someone hasn't asked the question already. Does anyone know the answer?
FirstLight (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-27-09 04:37 PM
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8. ****ing Frightening
EVERY econ/civics student, history or econ major, poli-sci or sociology student, congres critter or executive CEO/CFO, unemployed waif and small business owner, welfare worker or college instructor...
Because everyone has a stake in this, and the ones who hold the cards may not get it - but the up & coming generations DO... the only way out of this mess is through 'cooperative competition and sustainability.' Bubble & bust and cretit debit living is DONE.
geez, it makes you wonder if we really CAN 'recover'...yikes
The nemesis of the maudlin waif primitive, perhaps referenced above:
omega minimo (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-27-09 05:26 PM
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9. yikes
snot (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-28-09 12:04 AM
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14. is N.D. doing so well (relatively) cuz there's no one there to be unemployed?
CatholicEdHead (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-28-09 10:40 PM
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21. Only 400K people and they have oil in the west of the state along with a pretty reliable agriculture economy in the east.
Uh, I think North Dakota something more than just 400,000 people.
Odin's left hand:
Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-28-09 09:55 PM
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19. It looks like creeping necrosis of an infected body part.
David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-28-09 10:45 PM
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22. Yeah, and the President is going to talk to the nation about "Afghanistan".
Yeah, that's what Americans are really going to tune in to hear.
Thanks for the powerful graphic presentation, truedelphi.
It's what I'm harping about now on a daily basis.
It's the number one issue with our citizens and it seems to be not even on the radar of the White House.
We are going to be massacred in 2010 at the polls over the unemployment issue.
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Just in case anyone wants to see the actual map the idiots are talking about, without having to dip one's browser into the filth of DU, the complete URL for the map is this: http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html
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Just in case anyone wants to see the actual map the idiots are talking about, without having to dip one's browser into the filth of DU, the complete URL for the map is this: http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html
My problem is, in order to see the graph, I have to download an updated version of something, and the antique computer won't support it.
So I have no idea what this thingamajig looks like.
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My problem is, in order to see the graph, I have to download an updated version of something, and the antique computer won't support it.
So I have no idea what this thingamajig looks like.
It's an interactive map showing unemployment rates by county from 2007 to 2009. 10%+ is black down to 1.9% or below in white. Unemployment is basically higher on the coasts and over time the dark areas spread inland but always with a pale strip down the centre of the country.
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It's an interactive map showing unemployment rates by county from 2007 to 2009. 10%+ is black down to 1.9% or below in white. Unemployment is basically higher on the coasts and over time the dark areas spread inland but always with a pale strip down the centre of the country.
Thank you, madam, from the bottom of my heart.
I assumed, judging from the primitive reactions, that it looked bad for blue areas and reasonably good for red areas.
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The start...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/carlr/UnemploymentA.jpg)
The finish...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/carlr/UnemploymentB.jpg)
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That's kind of, sort of, the way I had imagined it might be, Carl.
Thanks, sir!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-27-09 03:31 PM
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3. Terrifying! Decades of Repugnicans have destroyed our country.
We must stop those sick a-holes from being in office for the next century!
What a f'n moron! Hey dumbass, notice how it started in 2007? Wonder who controlled Congress then?
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It's amazing how the blackness of the map just explodes when the Obamessiah takes up residence in the White House. Unemployment must be racist.
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This idiot:
Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-27-09 03:31 PM
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3. Terrifying! Decades of Repugnicans have destroyed our country.
We must stop those sick a-holes from being in office for the next century!
Is just too stupid to realize that because of the Obamessiah, the Democrats will likely be out of power for the next two generations or longer.
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This idiot:
Is just too stupid to realize that because of the Obamessiah, the Democrats will likely be out of power for the next two generations or longer.
She went back for seconds when the Kool-Aid was being served.
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It's amazing how the blackness of the map just explodes when the Obamessiah takes up residence in the White House. Unemployment must be racist.
The map itself is racist, using black for unemployment. We all know Freepers think blacks won't work. Very clever dogwhistle. Also, black is the color of anarchy, so they're obviously calling for an overthrow of the government. The Secret Service needs to investigate this and whoever owns that site needs to be imprisoned.[/du mode]
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It's amazing how the blackness of the map just explodes when the Obamessiah takes up residence in the White House. Unemployment must be racist.
It's amazing how darkness in general started spreading throughout the country the day Barry was acorned in.
Just sayin'
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It's amazing how darkness in general started spreading throughout the country the day Barry was acorned in.
Just sayin'
Talk about the ultimate in "DUing the poll".
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It is pretty frightening to watch, it looks like a spreading disease.
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It is pretty frightening to watch, it looks like a spreading disease.
It is. It's called Socialism. Freedom is the cure.