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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BadCat on November 29, 2009, 12:45:24 PM
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Wow, they let their true communist out in this one.
27inCali (845 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Nov-27-09 09:14 PM
Original message
If Obama isn't Left enough for you...............
hey, I understand the frustration. but maybe think about this.
If you can hold on and help make his presidency successful, you might just find that a very successful Democratic Presidency and some successful Democratic policies will start to earn the trust of the mushy middle and move the country to the Left, making it more likely to have a much more Liberal president (and Congress) in the future.
To me, the big question is, how do you seduce moderate voters into giving Liberal policies a chance? and to me the answer is, successful Democratic presidents and policies -success breeds confidence and trust: people are suckers for winners.
personally, I don't see how hobbling Obama's presidency with lack of support from the base does anything but make the nightmare of President Mike Huckabee a lot more likely.
we all get impatient, pissed off and gotta vent from time to time. I have too. I'm just saying, I think if we can keep this guy in office for a good 8 years he may not give us our entire Lefty wish list, but he'll give us at least a few big items and pave the way from someone more Liberal than him to pick up the job where he left off. That's why you'll never find me making post after post attacking him for not being as Left as me, personally, I accept that I'm really pretty Lefty compared to most people and I shouldn't realistically expect my Leftist vision of the world to come to fruition 10 months after electing a self-styled moderate.
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Nov-27-09 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Eh?
Propaganda? The middle of the country is centrist. They voted for pubbies a lot. They are scared of us on the left. (Mainly because they have been brainwashed.)
Your view that most of the country wants what we on the far left want is propaganda, with no real basis in reality.
We are a minority...for now. What the OP suggests is that given a good run at reforming the country, slowly and surely, the moderates will soon enough begin to see things our way.
Obama knows this, and that's how he's working things. (mostly)
Give him a chance, that's all we are asking, give him a chance. We will crush the pubbies in 2010 if we all work together.
Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Nov-27-09 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. Liberals, the arguement goes, don't rely on MSM for their info.
If liberals make up only a small minority during the Democratic primaries, I can see your point.
msallied (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Nov-28-09 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #3
60. Campaign Finance Reform, return of the Fairness Doctrine (or something similar),
and perhaps a repeal of the deregulations on the Telecom industry. That is how you get Americans to start accepting liberal policies again. When the forces of greed own your representatives and a media that eschews truth in favor of entertainment, you have a stupid electorate.
Marx much?
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Facts:
It is the left that uses violence to get political gain.
It is the left that shuts free speech down.
It is the left that enslaves people.
It is the left that creates the death and misery of common people.
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msallied (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Nov-28-09 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #3
60. Campaign Finance Reform, return of the Fairness Doctrine (or something similar),
and perhaps a repeal of the deregulations on the Telecom industry. That is how you get Americans to start accepting liberal policies again. When the forces of greed own your representatives and a media that eschews truth in favor of entertainment, you have a stupid electorate.
I would hate to hold beliefs that can only be accepted by stifling all discussion.
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you have a stupid electorate
Is that the one that elected a Democrat Congress in 2006, and Bo in 2008?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts)
~snip~
We are a minority...for now.
:lmao: Yeah. ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, PBS etc are all run by those mean ole' conservatives.
BeFree is a graduate of the Obama bin Lyin' School of Victimhood. When all else fails, play the Victim Card.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/Race%20Card/4303197-1.jpg)
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Yeah. ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, PBS etc are all run by those mean ole' conservatives.
I thought Kweef Overdork was their hero? Now they want to call him a conservative? :loser: