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Title: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: Thor on November 27, 2009, 04:48:22 PM
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Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

Russian Military Analysts are reporting to Prime Minister Putin today that US President Barack Obama has issued orders to his Northern Command’s (USNORTHCOM) top leader, US Air Force General Gene Renuart, to “begin immediately” increasing his military forces to 1 million troops by January 30, 2010, in what these reports warn is an expected outbreak of civil war within the United States before the end of winter.

According to these reports, Obama has had over these past weeks “numerous” meetings with his war council about how best to manage the expected implosion of his Nations banking system while at the same time attempting to keep the United States military hegemony over the World in what Russian Military Analysts state is a “last ditch gambit” whose success is “far from certain”.

And to Obama’s “last ditch gambit”, these reports continue, he is to announce in a nationwide address to his people this coming week that he is going to expand the level of US Military Forces in Afghanistan by tens of thousands of troops, while at the same time using the deployment of these soldiers as a “cover” for returning to the United States over 200,000 additional American soldiers from the over 800 bases in over 39 countries they have stationed around the Globe bringing the level of these forces in America to over 1 million, a number the US Military believes will be able to contain the “explosion of violence” expected to roil these peoples when they learn their economy has been bankrupted.

These reports further state that at the same time Obama will be attempting to keep his Nation from violent disintegration, the tens of thousands of additional troops he will send to Afghanistan are to be ordered to Kandahar where the Americans and their NATO allies will begin their final attempt to secure their TAPI (Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India) pipeline, which without the Western Nations, due to their grave lack of alternative energy resources, and being cut off from these vast Central Asian supplies (which both Russia and China are seeking to insure), are warned will totally collapse.

To the scariest “end game” maneuvers being made by Obama, in his attempt to protect Americas Global hegemony, is his record shattering move in plunging the United States $3.5 Trillion further into debt, and which raises the total amount owed by the United States, to its citizens and the World, to the unprecedented height of over $106 Trillion. 

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source (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1302.htm)


I don't know the validity of this story, but it scares the hell out of me. I really wouldn't want to have them firing on civilians, but I'm afraid that more than half of our military folk would follow an order issued by Obama. It seems as if 0bama is gearing up for his takeover. The PEOPLE don't want Government intervention in their lives. It seems he's intent on forcing it down our throat. And people have the audacity to call Bush a war criminal...
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: Hawkgirl on November 27, 2009, 05:26:59 PM
I'm not sure if I'd believe that source.

But if any side is going to start a revolt, it's the liberals when they find out he really IS sending troops to Afghanistan.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 27, 2009, 06:23:28 PM
It's not like we wouldn't be able to see it from a thousand miles away.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: Carl on November 27, 2009, 06:52:28 PM
Internal Russian propaganda,some things never change.
A regurgitation and repackaging of various leftist talking points...pipeline acrossed  Afghanistan,the white population of the USA scared of Obama and so on.

Edited to add that a Google search of Sorcha Faal doesn`t turn up glowing reviews.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: franksolich on November 27, 2009, 06:53:24 PM
Internal Russian propaganda,some things never change.
A regurgitation and repackaging of various leftist talking points...pipeline acrossed  Afghanistan,the white population of the USA scared of Obama and so on.

Oh my yes.

That's Russian through and through.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: Mr Mannn on November 27, 2009, 06:57:37 PM
It's not like we wouldn't be able to see it from a thousand miles away.
True but the libs like to move real fast. Liberals will initiate any hostilities. And they would come in on so many multiple fronts that we wouldn't know where to go first.

They will not leave us any means of communication, so look for a shutdown of internet, radio and tv conservative sites.

I've always wondered if cap and trade wasn't part of this. It would drive prices so high we would be worried about food and unable to afford to travel and aide our fellow patriots.

and of course gun confiscation. They would not try this before total control of all media, and when they were ready the media would either be silent of would deny it was happening.

I don't know what else to look for except the Obama youth. I personally expect loyalty officers in major companies, disguised as health/nutrition types.

all that said, I'm not sure I believe the source either.
If true, Obama would have to trust the military--and he does not. If this was ordered the military would comply with his order, move the personnel, but do nothing when the time came.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 27, 2009, 07:02:30 PM
I'll believe it's not total BS when some sort of hint of it actually comes down US military channels, and I'll be extremely surprised if that ever happens. 
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: BadCat on November 27, 2009, 07:07:38 PM
I'll believe it's not total BS when some sort of hint of it actually comes down US military channels, and I'll be extremely surprised if that ever happens. 

NOTHING that this idiot may attempt would surprise me.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: Crazy Horse on November 27, 2009, 07:28:13 PM
It's not like we wouldn't be able to see it from a thousand miles away.

Maybe you need to take the rose colored glasss off or, just laugh your ass off............I'm not so sure
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 27, 2009, 07:29:36 PM
NOTHING that this idiot may attempt would surprise me.

While that's true, the military is an instrument of policy with which he and all his trusted advisors are absolutely unfamiliar and distrustful.  I cannot see them jumping into a winner-take-all/loser-dies powerplay which relies utterly on something they don't like, trust, or understand.  That's just frickin' totally irrational, everyone in DC and Alexandria would have to be totally toked up on primo hash laced with toxic waste for them to even turn their thoughts in that direction.  I'm not buying.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 27, 2009, 07:39:56 PM
I did what my neighbor suggested, and ran a search on Sorcha Faal.  Here's one of the stories she broke:

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Russia’s FSB Reports Pop Icon Michael Jackson Assassinated By CIA

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

June 26, 2009

FSB sources are reporting to President Medvedev today that American pop icon Michael Jackson was “most assuredly” assassinated by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) after an examination of data transmitted by a Russian Military’s Kosmos 2450 satellite show “conclusively” that immediately prior to the music stars death in Los Angeles an electromagnetic pulse consistent in pattern to EMR weapons looted from the former Soviet Union by the United States was employed at the “exact coordinates” of the rock stars home.

To the type of technology being perfected by the US Military-Industrial Complex based upon former Soviet Union research used in these kinds of assassinations we can read about as reported by Cheryl Welsh, president, Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse, in her landmark 2001 report “Electromagnetic Radiation (EMR) Weapons: As Powerful As The Atomic Bomb”, and which says:

“A newly declassified U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency report says- extensive Soviet research into microwaves might lead to methods of causing disoriented human behavior, nerve disorders or even heart attacks.... A copy of the study was provided by the agency to The Associated Press in response to a request under the Freedom of Information Act. The Pentagon agency refused to release some portions of the study, saying they remain classified on national security grounds.”

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1244.htm

I'd take Carl's, and DAT's opinions.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: dutch508 on November 27, 2009, 07:51:09 PM
She does have a flair for the destructive Americana story:

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U.S. ORDERS RECRUITMENT OF OVER 15,000 INFORMANTS FOR DOMESTIC SPYING       
Wednesday, 01 August 2007 
Reported by PRAVDA

By Sorcha Faal

(http://carolynbaker.net/site/images/sophie%20scholl.jpg)
 

In another blow to American freedom, among many other similar blows of recent months, the American War Leader, and who is now ranked as one of the most unpopular Presidents in modern history, has issued orders for his Nation’s Internal Security Police, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to begin recruitment of over 15,000 informants to begin spying on their fellow American citizens.

According to the United States ABC Television News Service: "The FBI is taking cues from the CIA to recruit thousands of covert informants in the United States as part of a sprawling effort to boost its intelligence capabilities.

According to a recent unclassified report to Congress, the FBI expects its informants to provide secrets about possible terrorists and foreign spies, although some may also be expected to aid with criminal investigations, in the tradition of law enforcement confidential informants. The FBI did not respond to requests for comment on this story.

The FBI said the push was driven by a 2004 directive from President Bush ordering the bureau to improve its counterterrorism efforts by boosting its human intelligence capabilities.

The aggressive push for more secret informants appears to be part of a new effort to grow its intelligence and counterterrorism efforts. Other recent proposals include expanding its collection and analysis of data on U.S. persons, retaining years' worth of Americans' phone records and even increasing so-called "black bag" secret entry operations.

To handle the increase in so-called human sources, the FBI also plans to overhaul its database system, so it can manage records and verify the accuracy of information from "more than 15,000" informants, according to the document."

This news comes on the heels of the top domestic general in the United States, Air Force General Victor "Gene" Renuart, who heads U.S. Northern Command, calling for a tripling of troops on American soil to battle alleged ‘sleeper cells’, and the American President’s signing of an Executive Order outlawing all opposition to the Iraq war under threat of confiscation of all property and imprisonment for life.

This latest provocation against the citizens of the United States by its War Leaders eerily echoes the dreaded Ministry for State Security of the late East German communist government, and of which we can read:

"The Stasi influenced almost every aspect of life in the GDR. During the mid-1980s, a civilian network of informants known as the Inoffizielle Mitarbeiter (IMs, Unofficial Collaborators) began to grow within both parts of Germany, East and West.

By the time East Germany collapsed in 1989, it was estimated that 91,000 full-time employees and 300,000 informants were employed by the Stasi.

In other words, about one in fifty East Germans collaborated with the Stasi—one of the highest penetrations of any civilian society by an intelligence-gathering organization."

To what is becoming the United States under its totalitarian fascist rulers has been noted by, perhaps, the greatest living survivor of the Soviet Russia gulag, and Nobel Prize winner, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, and who according to the Associated Press News Service stated:

"Nobel laureate Alexander Solzhenitsyn has accused the West of trying to ignore and sideline Russia and hailed President Vladimir Putin for rebuilding the country. The 88-year old author, who documented the murderous Soviet prison camp system based on his own seven-year experience as a prisoner of the gulag, said the Western criticism of Russia was often unfair, according to a sprawling interview with Der Spiegel magazine that was republished Tuesday in the Russian daily Izvestia."

It is, also, more than interesting to note that at the very same time that the American experiment with freedom and liberty for its people have died, the exact reverse is now true in Russia, and where under President Putin’s leadership thousands of new Orthodox churches have been built around the Motherland leading to a resurgence of faith and stronger family morals in what was once a brutal communist nation.

As with all of the assaults to their freedom and liberties against them since September 11, 2001, there remains nothing but total submission by the American people themselves to the iron bars of totalitarian fascist rule swallowing them whole, leading one to wonder if, indeed, the American President has indeed been reading from the writings of the late Nazi German Dictator, Adolph Hitler, and who said:

"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it."

By Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers


 http://carolynbaker.net/site/content/view/57/
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: TheSarge on November 27, 2009, 08:00:20 PM
Source material is sketchy...doesn't need to be in Breaking News.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 27, 2009, 08:20:55 PM
Maybe you need to take the rose colored glasss off or, just laugh your ass off............I'm not so sure
I don't believe the source. It's not even feasible.

If such a thing were really happening we would have heard about it from soneone other than the Russian counterpart to Dylan Avery. This is the US; a resident can't even get blown in his own office without it becoming headline news. An effort to demob troops from all over the world would not go unnoticed nor would plans for major domestic operations. The Pentagon wouldn't leak the story, it would gush and the same congress that blanches at the thought of ObamaCare would not protect him.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: Thor on November 27, 2009, 08:38:26 PM
Source material is sketchy...doesn't need to be in Breaking News.

Next time, leave the redirection topic there for more than a couple of hours.....
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: TheSarge on November 27, 2009, 08:42:23 PM
Next time, leave the redirection topic there for more than a couple of hours.....

I can change the duration of that?
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: crockspot on November 27, 2009, 09:43:13 PM
We just have to learn the new party chant, and we will all be safe. It goes like this:

Mmmm mmmm mmmmm
Barack Acorn Obama
Mmmm mmmm mmmmm

... and so forth.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on November 27, 2009, 10:46:26 PM
Obama Delende Est.

He isn't my President. And I'll do all I can to destroy him.

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
--Thomas Jefferson


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Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 28, 2009, 07:54:08 AM
Jones is a rancid little retard.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: TheSarge on November 28, 2009, 08:41:28 AM
Jones is a rancid little retard.

 :exactly: :agree:
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: Baruch Menachem on November 28, 2009, 12:08:04 PM
While that's true, the military is an instrument of policy with which he and all his trusted advisors are absolutely unfamiliar and distrustful.  I cannot see them jumping into a winner-take-all/loser-dies powerplay which relies utterly on something they don't like, trust, or understand.  That's just frickin' totally irrational, everyone in DC and Alexandria would have to be totally toked up on primo hash laced with toxic waste for them to even turn their thoughts in that direction.  I'm not buying.

They believe in Cap and trade and they believe in 0bamacare and they believe in TARP and they believe in the Stimulus package and cash for clunkers.   Toxic waste and Hash, with that kind of fantasy thinking, who needs it?

That said, I am sure the 0bamabots are worried about a "7 days in May" scenario and may be taking steps to prevent that
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: 5412 on November 28, 2009, 07:07:55 PM
Obama Delende Est.

He isn't my President. And I'll do all I can to destroy him.

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
--Thomas Jefferson


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Semper Fi Colonel,

I think all citizens of Switzerland are required to own a rifle and are considered soldiers if I am not mistaken.  I have several in my gun safe and many round of ammunition.  Another retired Marine a block over, also was a federal Marshall, makes my inventory look puny.

Without being cute, my wife and I live in an upscale gated community, and from what I know we could easily have a neighborhood militia.  Maybe the emporer of Japan knew what he was talking about when he said he would never invade our mainland because everyone owns a gun.  Not true anymore, but those that do are generally well stocked.  Still having a hard time getting primers.

regards,
5412
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: djones520 on November 28, 2009, 09:39:47 PM
Headline story on the latest Air Force Times is that the Air Force is cutting 3,700 more positions, a good portion of them Officers.

Sorry Thor, but I'm throwing the bullshit flag on this one.  Let the source come from something other then some Russian tabloid and maybe there might be a kernal of truth.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: 5412 on November 29, 2009, 02:41:49 AM
Headline story on the latest Air Force Times is that the Air Force is cutting 3,700 more positions, a good portion of them Officers.

Sorry Thor, but I'm throwing the bullshit flag on this one.  Let the source come from something other then some Russian tabloid and maybe there might be a kernal of truth.

Hi,

I have sent the information to an ex Federal Marshal who's wife is in the FBI, a former CIA, and a guy who has a son very well connected and so far the reports I get back are they know and have heard nothing, not even whispers.  My guess is everyone here is hoping that this is not true.

regards,
5412
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 29, 2009, 08:49:14 AM
Get a grip, kids.  This one doesn't even make it to "Willing suspension of disbelief" as science fiction.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: vesta111 on November 29, 2009, 09:29:47 AM
  Ok so far all we sheep have to go is disinformation, propaganda and what ever else our Shepard's feed us.

Face it, human nature does not enjoy bad news and will ignore it if they can.   Then we stand back with a shocked look on their face as events come to be.


Who among us can differentate between being fed garbage and the real deal.    How many of our population really give a rats Ass as to politics as long as they are warm in the winter and cool in the summer. A chicken in every pot.

We will not have a civil war, but a knock down fight that is revelatory in nature may come about.

But then, perhaps as long as everyone has a full belly and the right to head out to a bar, whats their worry.

Then to the the people who are nor rich but have a comfortable life, long as they can keep up their life style why complain.

Down to the poorest, they will be fed, and get medical care even if they are living in a van with 6 kids.--------Are they willing to give up food to revolt.?

Even the Hoover-vills did not cause the country to revolt---why if they come back would we expect anything different.?






Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 29, 2009, 11:29:29 AM
Get a grip, kids.  This one doesn't even make it to "Willing suspension of disbelief" as science fiction.
Absolutively
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 01, 2009, 11:38:22 AM
I was wondering where this had gone to. 

In any event, DAT is dead on.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: DefiantSix on December 02, 2009, 08:36:53 AM
Out of curiosity, I went looking for published "troop levels" to get a sense of how realistic that "1 million" figure might be.

Based on the figures I found (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_armed_forces), 1 million would be 2/3 of the total number of men and women on active duty in all services, according to May 2009 numbers.  Basically, that 1 million figure would be every active duty soldier and marine, plus the total reserve forces for both services (excluding Army National Guard forces).

As it seems highly unlikely that The Øne has converted to Ronulan-level isolationism, I call  :bs:
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: Thor on December 05, 2009, 01:39:03 PM
Def 6, did you fail math??

1.45 Million on active duty and another .85 million in the reserves. That makes a total of 2.3 Million that are serving in one form or another. One million is less than half of all available troops. I'm not real sure I totally believe the OP story, but, as we ALL know, The One isn't to be trusted. Just look at the people he's surrounded himself with....
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 05, 2009, 02:38:43 PM
...I'm not real sure I totally believe the OP story, but, as we ALL know, The One isn't to be trusted. Just look at the people he's surrounded himself with....
Far be it for me to even come close to appearing a defender of the Narcissist in Chief...

...BUT...

...this line of argumentation is as fallacious as the libtards arguing that because Bush is so bad his wars must be imperialist in nature and because his wars are imperialist in nature its proof Bush is bad.

If the OP is BS its BS and cannot be used as a slam against Obama, nor can Obama's jack-assery be used to turn BS into truth.
Title: Re: Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War”
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 05, 2009, 03:16:33 PM
Def 6, did you fail math??

1.45 Million on active duty and another .85 million in the reserves. That makes a total of 2.3 Million that are serving in one form or another. One million is less than half of all available troops. I'm not real sure I totally believe the OP story, but, as we ALL know, The One isn't to be trusted. Just look at the people he's surrounded himself with....

I don't think you read his post all that closely.  The figures you two used are not really inconsistent, if you read what he actually wrote instead of what you think he wrote.

And yeah, he's not to be trusted, but come on, only a total dyed-in-the-wool CT-nut would believe this story AT ALL.