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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 22, 2009, 04:43:26 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7060083
Oh my.
I thought about putting this into the boat and bringing it over here yesterday (Saturday), but then figured, nah.
Inbetween times it grew like Topsy.
Now it's a really big bonfire, enormous.
The good samaritan primitive:
Mari333 (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-21-09 10:30 AM NON-DONOR
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thats nice. walking my dog here in town and seeing 3 dead deer hanging from a tree
lovely.
IN town. Not out in the country somewhere, where we dont have to see it, but in town. where every kid and passerby can see 3 large deer hanging by their necks from a large tree with their tongues hanging out, like yard ornaments.
and its legal, it seems.
but we cannot have our grass grow over 6 inches or we get a ticket.
we cannot have pretty lawn ornaments gracing our parkways or we get a ticket.
we cannot have live chickens or goats or we get a ticket.
we cannot allow wild bergamot or pokeweed to grow in yards or we get a ticket.
but I can hang 3 HUGE dead deer in my trees anytime I want !
(I already know the blahblahblah about hunting, too many deer, etc etc etc, so dont start)
Going to bring this up at the next city council meeting.
Okay, what to do now, there's so many primitive comments?
I suppose I'll just quote the primitives whose screen-name starts with "G."
GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 10:42 AM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #4
12. Deer are usually gutted immediately at the kill site.
gratefultobelib (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-21-09 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #68
72. Made me chuckle! Thanks!
GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 10:41 AM NON-DONOR
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8. That's how deer are butchered. In a few hours they will be gone.
What's wrong with kids seeing them? I was raised on a ranch and helped with animals being killed and butchered. Somewhere around my house, in a drawer somewhere with other old pictures, is a picture of myself at age six, in front of a deer hanging from a tree. It was taken about sixty years ago.
Suggestion: Mind your own business.
GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 10:53 AM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #20
29. So gripe to the council about the six inch law instead of trying to make trouble for your neighbor.
The deer will be gone soon.
GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 11:02 AM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #39
40. Self-absorbed? Nah. Leaving neighbors alone.
You need to quit being a busybody.
GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 10:51 AM NON-DONOR
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25. This is the first time I have ever heard anybody complain about it.
Around here the response by neighbors would be to ask about the hunt. Nobody would be offended.
Do you really think your meat starts out in neatly wrapped platic?
GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 11:06 AM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #38
48. Because you are going to try to force a stranger to obey your will.
Progressives allow other to do as they please, as long as they don't directly harm someone. Occasionally butchering a deer in the yard harms no one.
Go2Peace (550 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 05:48 PM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #137
201. Actually, as someone who eats venison occassionally, I "get" this
why shouldn't they be required to hang the animal in a garage or their backyard? My wife would be mortified. I don't see it as she does, but she is one of the nicest, most decent human beings I know, and I understand and respect her and everyone like her as much as I respect my own rights.
If we can require people to mow their lawns and have other related laws to provide consistancy and hold up standards we can also require deer not to be hung in front of the house. I find it entirely inconsistant not to. And we can respect the feelings of others as well. We are going to have to learn to do so sooner or later in this society.
GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 02:16 PM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #50
116. Tolerance is a progressive value. You are being intolerant of him.
GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 02:21 PM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #75
118. What about the dozens of chicken carcasses in the meat display at the supermarket?
Do you shield your children's eyes when you walk past that section?
BTW - I am chewing on some barbequed shicken tenders as I type this.
Go2Peace (550 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 07:40 PM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #216
222. We don't want that touchy feely community idea of considering how others are affected. not in USA
I keep trying to explain to others on this board how our problems in this country are in our values. We are generally not a kind nor thoughtful nation of people. Until we do start to live life being kind and considerate to others we are going nowhere but downhill.
GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 10:47 AM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #13
17. Three days is rather odd. What has the daily temperature been?
To preserve the meat, deer need to be butcher quickly. Even in very cool weather it is wise not to waste time.
GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 02:30 PM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #33
121. Does he have trees in his back yard that are big enough?
Is the front yard tree the only one that will do?
GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-21-09 11:08 AM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #43
51. I've often seen them in front and side yard trees, but hanging by the hind legs like you said.
One must make an exception to the "G" rule:
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-21-09 11:42 AM NON-DONOR
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79. This thread is an amazing study in the intractability of views and the lack of discussion on an ....
...... internet discussion site.
Lots of snark.
Not much discussion.
GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 02:35 PM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #85
122. So you prefer that deer die a slow suffering death due to starvation due to overpopulation?
How very caring of you. /sarcasm
Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-21-09 01:05 PM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #92
106. Best reply on the thread.
Stringing up pink flamingos would be easiest.
Go2Peace (550 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 06:09 PM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #119
204. A lot of towns are like that. Lived in many places and many suburbs had such laws
Go2Peace (550 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 07:48 PM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #207
225. No, you don't get it. Use your "empathy" muscle here
It doesn't bother me (well much, it doesn't "offend" me), but it would many people, including my wife. The whole issue is just about consideration for others. Not everyone feels good when they see this. And it really is not consistant with yard landscaping.
So if we are a society that:
1. Accepts some rules as to landscaping etc
2. Values kindness, empathy and community
It is entirely consistant not to hang your dead deer in front where other neighbors may be disturbed by it.
Trouble is, I am not sure we are that "kind" of society, as seems to be evidenced even on a board of democrats.
One is compelled to make another exception to the "G" rule:
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-21-09 10:29 PM DONOR
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250. Homeless people are dying in droves, but where's the outrage about that?
You know, primitives whose screen names start with the letter "G" appear to be more reluctant to donate to Skins's island than do primitives whose screen names start with the letter "M" or "A," it seems.
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I used to love it when I saw a deer hanging from the tree in my yard--it grossed out the other schoolkids on my bus.
Also, Here's a lovely Christmastime decoration for the DUmmie...
(http://www.thejump.net/humor/redneck-lawn-deer.jpg)
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250. Homeless people are dying in droves, but where's the outrage about that?
Was it wrong that I busted out laughing at that comment? :lmao:
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GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 02:16 PM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #50
116. Tolerance is a progressive value.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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GreenStormCloud (865 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 10:47 AM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #13
17. Three days is rather odd. What has the daily temperature been?
To preserve the meat, deer need to be butcher quickly. Even in very cool weather it is wise not to waste time.
Me thinks the DUmmie you're talking to is lying about the 3 days. We'd either dress them in the field and take them home or take the entire deer to the deer processors. You damn sure don't want to leave the entrails in them for long.
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IN town. Not out in the country somewhere, where we dont have to see it, but in town. where every kid and passerby can see 3 large deer hanging by their necks from a large tree with their tongues hanging out, like yard ornaments.
No one that knows anything would hang a deer that way so not sure what the purpose of this little story.
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No one that knows anything would hang a deer that way so not sure what the purpose of this little story.
Being a dummie, they normally have problems identifying the front from the back end.
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Being a dummie, they normally have problems identifying the front from the back end.
Yellow in the front, brown in the back.
Oh, wait... wrong subject.
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Talk about a one trick pony... :lmao: :lmao:
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-21-09 10:29 PM
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250. Homeless people are dying in droves, but where's the outrage about that?
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Me thinks the DUmmie you're talking to is lying about the 3 days. We'd either dress them in the field and take them home or take the entire deer to the deer processors. You damn sure don't want to leave the entrails in them for long.
Yep,as soon as is practical you gut them and then wash them out keeping the body cavity open to allow for a quick cooling of the meat.
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No one that knows anything would hang a deer that way so not sure what the purpose of this little story.
:lmao:
Didn't even catch that. :lmao:
What a liar. We had a steel rod that looked like a coat hanger that went through the tendons on the back legs. I know they sale'em, but we made ours.
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:lmao:
Didn't even catch that. :lmao:
What a liar. We had a steel rod that looked like a coat hanger that went through the tendons on the back legs. I know they sale'em, but we made ours.
Called a whipple stick and hanging by the hind legs is the basic method of skinning any carcass even if it is a rabbit.
I could have bought it if it was just one deer but three would suggest more then a chance lucky kill by an inexperienced hunter.
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-21-09 10:29 PM DONOR
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250. Homeless people are dying in droves
I agree with the Denver wino. I would be highly offended if DUmmy bobbolink's dirty, smelly carcass were strung up in a neighbor's tree.
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Me thinks the DUmmie you're talking to is lying about the 3 days. We'd either dress them in the field and take them home or take the entire deer to the deer processors. You damn sure don't want to leave the entrails in them for long.
Thats the better way to do it! It does take some weight off of em! :-)
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Thats the better way to do it! It does take some weight off of em! :-)
I'll be honest, when I left home for the military, and hunted at Ft. Gordon, I was lazy and used to just drop'em off at Lanier's Deer Processing, which was on the way home from TA 49 on Ft. Gordon, where I used to hunt. I'd pick it up in about a week. However, last deer I killed was a small 3 PT, that I thought was bigger. Kinda broke my heart and I never went back.
No, I'm not joining f'n PETA. You guys are free to send me any free venison you want to relinquish. :-)
Not to mention, it's very early, it's cold, .....I don't want to go. ....thank you Ron Tater Salad White. I prefer fishing.
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Mari666 is simply a liar. No way three deer were hanging by their NECKS for THREE DAYS. She also says that this can be done any time one wants, which is not true, try it outside of deer hunting season.
Someone please stick a fork through Mari666, she's done.
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Mari666 is simply a liar. No way three deer were hanging by their NECKS for THREE DAYS. She also says that this can be done any time one wants, which is not true, try it outside of deer hunting season.
Someone please stick a fork through Mari666, she's done.
Most people would hang the deer head down, but in chilly weather three days would be nothing. I think they hang prime beef for two or three weeks.
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Most people would hang the deer head down, but in chilly weather three days would be nothing. I think they hang prime beef for two or three weeks.
In a cooler, with entrails removed, and not in the sun.
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The main point in hanging them is to gravity drain the blood out of the meat. What a 'tard. :loser:
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The main point in hanging them is to gravity drain the blood out of the meat. What a 'tard. :loser:
Exactly. ...and what do you not eat? The f'n head. You eat the legs, which makes this DUmbasses point completely invalid and, well, let's be honest, a lie. If I killed 3 deer in GA in a day I'd be fined and probably lose my rifle and my truck.
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If I killed 3 deer in GA in a day I'd be fined and probably lose my rifle and my truck.
Maybe there was more than one hunter in that household, though.
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If I killed 3 deer in GA in a day I'd be fined and probably lose my rifle and my truck.
In Tennessee the limit is 3 per day. Several times I've killed two in a day, and I've also had chances to kill three, but that's just too much work.
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In Tennessee the limit is 3 per day. Several times I've killed two in a day, and I've also had chances to kill three, but that's just too much work.
Yeah, there's no daily limit in GA. You can kill your bag limit of 12 in one day if you're able to. Can you imagine the hauling and gutting though? :-)
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Yeah, there's no daily limit in GA. You can kill your bag limit of 12 in one day if you're able to. Can you imagine the hauling and gutting though? :-)
Don't think that was always the case.
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In Tennessee the limit is 3 per day. Several times I've killed two in a day, and I've also had chances to kill three, but that's just too much work.
The good samaritan primitive lives up over in Michigan, though.
Maybe the rules are different?
I suspect it was more than one hunter who caught the three Bambii.
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Hanging a cross or garlic around ones neck will ward off vampires.....hanging deer in the front yard will ward off DUmmies....gotcha.....I will be cleaning rifles the rest of the day.
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Sounds like the DUmmie has moved recently:
LINK (http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091112/FRONTPAGE/911120377/1061/TOWNS07)
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I'll be honest, when I left home for the military, and hunted at Ft. Gordon, I was lazy and used to just drop'em off at Lanier's Deer Processing, which was on the way home from TA 49 on Ft. Gordon, where I used to hunt. I'd pick it up in about a week. However, last deer I killed was a small 3 PT, that I thought was bigger. Kinda broke my heart and I never went back.
No, I'm not joining f'n PETA. You guys are free to send me any free venison you want to relinquish. :-)
Not to mention, it's very early, it's cold, .....I don't want to go. ....thank you Ron Tater Salad White. I prefer fishing.
We gotta get ya up here to the mitten in January out on Saginaw bay for perch Kev! :evillaugh:
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They were terror deer, sent by our enemies, and executed after a fair trial in the best and fairest legal system in the world! And no, Mr. Holder will not be taking questions.
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Go2Peace (550 posts) Sat Nov-21-09 07:40 PM NON-DONOR
Response to Reply #216
222. We don't want that touchy feely community idea of considering how others are affected. not in USA
I keep trying to explain to others on this board how our problems in this country are in our values. We are generally not a kind nor thoughtful nation of people. Until we do start to live life being kind and considerate to others we are going nowhere but downhill.
Dear Lord,
Thank you for giving me a husband that isn't this big of a *****.
Amen.
Cindie
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Dear Lord,
Thank you for giving me a husband that isn't this big of a *****.
Amen.
Cindie
Speaking of ***** husbands....I'm probably the only person who gets sick watching that Enterprise Rental Car commercial. A couple is going away for the weekend, and the really cute wife holds up two little nighties, and asks, "Red, or black?" Her total ***** of a husband answers "Both". Clearly, the only correct non-***** answer is "Neither". But maybe that's just me.
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The good samaritan primitive lives up over in Michigan, though.
Maybe the rules are different?
I suspect it was more than one hunter who caught the three Bambii.
You have to pull tags here Frank. Also she must be a transplant from somewhere else. This is a huge deer hunting state and i know of no hunter here who would hang a deer by it's neck! Even alot of the liberals here hunt! :whatever:
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Yep,as soon as is practical you gut them and then wash them out keeping the body cavity open to allow for a quick cooling of the meat.
Actually, depending on the temp, I've hung deer as long as 2 weeks. Makes an old buck with a huge rack edible. Best and easiest way I know to tenderize fresh meat. Otherwise the oldsters are as tough as shoe leather around here. Course the temp has to be freezing or less. Ever read Shogun? The Brit leading character hung a pheasant for 2 weeks until it smelled rotten. The Japs thought he was un-civilized. He thought it was the only way to cure wild game.
If you're lucky enough to live around alfalfa fields, you can eat deer the next day! Unfortunately up here in N. Idaho, our whitetails eat brush. They smell and taste like the brush they eat. Hanging them for a period of time helps with the gamey taste. "Toots' won't eat 'em until I "cure" them properly.
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You have to pull tags here Frank. Also she must be a transplant from somewhere else. This is a huge deer hunting state and i know of no hunter here who would hang a deer by it's neck! Even alot of the liberals here hunt! :whatever:
Ya have to remember DUmmies embelish thier bouncies. Hanging them by the neck most likely is for effect on their audience. I personally have never seen a deer hung like this DUmbass describes. Not even by novices. Every hunter I have ever known had a patriarch standing behind them for their first deer.
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Actually, depending on the temp, I've hung deer as long as 2 weeks. Makes an old buck with a huge rack edible. Best and easiest way I know to tenderize fresh meat. Otherwise the oldsters are as tough as shoe leather around here. Course the temp has to be freezing or less. Ever read Shogun? The Brit leading character hung a pheasant for 2 weeks until it smelled rotten. The Japs thought he was un-civilized. He thought it was the only way to cure wild game.
If you're lucky enough to live around alfalfa fields, you can eat deer the next day! Unfortunately up here in N. Idaho, our whitetails eat brush. They smell and taste like the brush they eat. Hanging them for a period of time helps with the gamey taste. "Toots' won't eat 'em until I "cure" them properly.
Right but you still have to gut them and get the carcass cooling as soon as possible.
After that the curing process is at least a week in 40ish temps if possible.
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Ya have to remember DUmmies embelish thier bouncies. Hanging them by the neck most likely is for effect on their audience. I personally have never seen a deer hung like this DUmbass describes. Not even by novices. Every hunter I have ever known had a patriarch standing behind them for their first deer.
Exactly...it is learned from a young age.
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I wish we had more deer hunting where I am in N. Ga. I live in a gated community, not exactly wooded prime land, and I had 7 deer in my yard this morning. 2 were having a chat, one leaning on the mailbox smoking a cigarette, and the rest just gamboling around on the patio, drinking water off the hottub cover.
Okay, maybe there wasnt any cigarettes or chatting involved, but the rest is true......can I qualify that as a bouncy? Always wanted to write one.
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I wish we had more deer hunting where I am in N. Ga. I live in a gated community, not exactly wooded prime land, and I had 7 deer in my yard this morning. 2 were having a chat, one leaning on the mailbox smoking a cigarette, and the rest just gamboling around on the patio, drinking water off the hottub cover.
Okay, maybe there wasnt any cigarettes or chatting involved, but the rest is true......can I qualify that as a bouncy? Always wanted to write one.
Did one of them tell another how things were so much better now, now that the Obamessiah is president?
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I cannot remember as it has been a long time since my family hunted deer,but something about gutting them comes to mind. Something about being careful not to pierce the bladder or intestines as it will poison the meat----or am I thinking hogs?
No way should a deer be hung inside a garage, barn or shed----Deer ticks you know.
Even when a deer or Moose is field dressed they still have to be hung . How does a hunter get a 1,200 pound Moose out of the woods, do they bring in a back hoe.?
I believe it is just tradition to hang a deer by the back legs. With 2 hunters it is easier to portage the carcass out of the woods on a pole head down. The Indians hung them as they got home on the pole from 2 trees, less handling.
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There's a mixed opinion of hanging a deer by it's head or by it's rear legs. I forget the reasoning. Most opt for hanging a deer by it's rear legs.
Anyways, I'm pretty sick and tired of people thinking that deer are some sort of animal to be revered. They are nothing but edible vermin. They cause many human deaths throughout the year, create damages in the MILLIONS of Dollars to personal property and MILLIONS of Dollars in damage to crops throughout the year. I saw a TV show on Animal Planet the other day. It was showing some rescue of a deer that was in a lake. IMO, THAT was a waste of taxpayer Dollars, but the idiots don't seem to care about that!! If it had survived on it's own, that would have been great. Had it drowned and died, no big deal, IMO. It would have become fish food. Do I like deer?? Yes and no. They are good to eat, but other than that, they are merely HUGE rats with horns (sometimes).
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In the Northlands, hanging deer for a few days is the norm. It all depends on the weather. When I was hunting in MN, if it was cold,( <40°F) we'd hang them until we were ready to leave and go home. They would be processed at a later date. There were a few times when we had warm weather and were forced to butcher them ourselves and get them on ice right away.
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They are nothing but edible vermin.
They are good to eat, but other than that, they are merely HUGE rats with horns (sometimes).
Agree 100%! I love to deer hunt and eat venison, but if d-Con made deer poison I'd buy it by the case for my backyard.
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Agree 100%! I love to deer hunt and eat venison, but if d-Con made deer poison I'd buy it by the case for my backyard.
D-Con doesn't . . . but Remington, Winchester, Federal, Nosler, Hornady, Cor-Bon, Buffalo Bore, etc., do.
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D-Con doesn't . . . but Remington, Winchester, Federal, Nosler, Hornady, Cor-Bon, Buffalo Bore, etc., do.
I know. I use Nosler bullets in reloading for my deer rifles. But they are a little too energetic for a suburban neighborhood of one-acre lots.
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I know. I use Nosler bullets in reloading for my deer rifles. But they are a little too energetic for a suburban neighborhood of one-acre lots.
I saw something on marlinowners.com a day or so ago, about a guy who wants to put a suppressor on an 1895 Guide Gun. I suppose that is one approach that could be used.
So would taking up archery.