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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 18, 2009, 08:01:34 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7038268
The worthless freeloading bum wily primitive, who's building an ark in the mountains of Tennessee, hoping to float it out to sea:
Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-18-09 04:40 AM
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My family has disowned me for not being classist, racist, republican
I sent them all the link to my last post concerning my medical situation.
Here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
My sister and her ex have both blocked my emails or changed their addys without telling me.
My brother pretended that he couldn't get the link to open. When I copy/pasted it out for him, I got no reply.
Now DU truly is my only family.
Oh dear.
The primitives are the worthless freeloading bum wily primitive's only family now.
It's too bad the worthless freeloading bum wily primitive didn't keep in touch with all those mothers of all those infants he created, raised on the taxpayers' dime.
Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-18-09 04:41 AM
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1. Join the club.
It'll be ok. You'll be loved by compassionate people here.
old mark (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-18-09 05:01 AM
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3. Wiley, some families are just bad places to be - you may find your self better off without them, sad to say...but it's not that uncommon.
I suggest you find some things you really enjoy doing for the holidays and do them - please yourself and enjoy.
Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-18-09 05:38 AM
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6. It's a;ways been a ****ed up family, Mark
I'm living on a 23 acre farm withsome old hippy friends,
The holidays will be just fine.
DontTreadOnMe (670 posts) Wed Nov-18-09 06:02 AM
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9. Hey Wiley!
Welcome to your new family.
My best friend from high school (I am 46) sent me an email about 6 months ago. We went our different ways after college and didn't keep in touch until a few years ago.
We usually only correspond via email, he lives in Pittsburgh and I live in New York.
He confided with me he just tested for Hep C. He has been faithfully married for 15 years with two children. He has no idea how he got it. His doctor thinks "maybe" he got it from snorting cocaine back in his younger days, the act of sharing straws with multiple users has been shown to transmit Hep C. And that the Hep C has been dormant in his system for over 20 years.
Fast forward, my friend is now on a major suppression treatment with his doctors. Now he told me his sisters and family have started to be "non-supportive" of his condition. Like somehow he deserved this. I have had numerous conversations with my friend, and he thinks this is the only way his family can cope with the news. They don't intend to be mean. They don't know how to react in a supportive method, so they go in the opposite direction and shun him. Fortunately, my friend is strong and can stand above this. This is his life and he has his family that needs HIS leadership to get through this. And he has friends like me when he needs to talk about it.
Sometimes a friend is all it takes to get through a rough period and make the situation more bearable.
maryellen99 (64 posts) Wed Nov-18-09 07:39 AM
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13. my husband and I have been ignored by his extended family not due to politics or anything like that but ever since My FIL died in January, we haven't seen or talked to them..They never called my MIL to see if she was all right or needed anything(she doesn't drive). Hell, I found about his aunt dying on Facebook. The only times my MIL ever heard from them was when she sold her house and moved to Kentucky(she's from there)and they wanted to buy stuff she wasn't taking with her.
a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-18-09 08:07 AM
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16. That's too bad...
I have a large, extended family, through blood and marriage. It's a weird mixed bunch.
My dad's side: Dad's a Libertarian and I can deal with that. He and I have nice political debates. My uncle is a very wealthy, successful, gay Democrat. He and I of course are politically similar, though I'm to the left of him.
My mom's side: very conservative. Tinged with a bit of old Italian racism. My mom's comment about Obama: "I can't vote for him because he's Muslim." Ugh. Luckily, she raised three liberal daughters. Her girlfriend is a Democrat, so she and I team up on my mom and try to educate her. It rarely works.
My husband: when we started dating, he always voted third party, because he was moderate. He grew up in a family of military folks (Dad, uncles and brothers served in various branches). His family is *extremely* conservative. His mom yelled at us in a grocery store for making fun of B*sh once. She said to me that I'll regret being a socialist when I'm successful and have to share my money with lazy people. I told her that I donate a lot of my pittance of a grad student salary to charities now, so I couldn't imagine changing that when I have more money. My brother-in-law's wife and I fight constantly via facebook about politics-it's gotten so bad that I canceled our Christmas trip to visit them and put her on limited profile; she got pissed that my liberal friends would rail on her for her asinine comments on my page. She told me I was an embarrassment to the family and that I offended people with my beliefs. Just yesterday I told my husband that she's the kind of person that would blindly vote for anyone Beck told her to (and it's totally true).
So, point is: my husband is a good liberal now, but I can't pick his family, just as I can't pick the political persuasions of my mom's side of the family. I'm spending my holidays with my Oklahoma family: my professors and friends with whom I have fun, share experiences and love, even though I don't *have* to.
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It must be sad to be these people...
If there is any shred of truth to this, I'd have no hesitation it putting my next paycheck down on it being because he spams them with hateful anti-conservative emails, can't keep his mouth shut about it at family gathers, etc...
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old mark (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-18-09 05:01 AM
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3. Wiley..... please yourself and enjoy.
That pretty much sums up the Liberal Motto.
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-18-09 08:07 AM
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16. That's too bad...
I have a large, extended family, through blood and marriage. It's a weird mixed bunch.
My dad's side: Dad's a Libertarian and I can deal with that. He and I have nice political debates. My uncle is a very wealthy, successful, gay Democrat. He and I of course are politically similar, though I'm to the left of him.
Of course you're "to the left of him".... he is wealthy and successful.
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I can't help but feel sad for the DUmmies and their families. I'm quite certain that we never get the full truth on these so-called "disownings" but I can't imagine anybody be disowned over politics in my family, and we have quite a spread of political beliefs :evillaugh: However, none of us have made politics our entire life and purpose in life, so that may make the difference.
on edit: My dad almost kicked my brother out because he was being an @$$hole about prop 8 and yelling in my face, and my dad took exception to his tone of voice. My dad probably actually agreed with him on the proposition, but didn't like his attitude (he was getting in my face and yelling "yes or no, just answer the question" or something along those lines). It is over and done with now, and my brother came back a home a couple hours later. The issue was not about our political differences, it was his attitude when discussing it.
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In 2001, I tested 2 and they weren't too worried. It turns out I have the easiest form of Hep C to cure ,
This time I'm Stage 3.
Also I'm a pain management patient subject to regular drug screens.
So I checked into the hospital and they took a urine sample, easy to do through catheter. Two hours later the nurse came in and told me the doctor refused to operate because I tested positive for pot
#1 Rule for Hep C- STOP USING DRUGS!
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They can never admit that their family doesn't like them because they (DUmmies) are just plain old assholes.
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I can't help but feel sad for the DUmmies and their families.
I can't really say that, I look at it as the DUmmies just reaping the harvest they chose to sow, and the families are better off without having to deal with the disruptive insane a-holes.
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I can't open the link, either. But there has always seemed to be a rampant epidemic of disowning in DUmmyland.
If push comes to shove, DUmmy Wileynumbers can probably find a place to crash in greenbriar's basement.
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If my brother lived on a 23 acre farm full of hippies, I'd disown him, too! Stinkin' worthless hippies! What am I talkin' about? One of my brothers is a stinkin' hippy! I disowned him years ago when he stole my late fathers 12 ga. skeet gun from me! Like I said, "stinkin' hippies"!
ETA (he sold the skeet gun to pay his phone bill. I figured it was better to disown him rather than cripple him for life!)
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"stinkin' hippies"!
Is there any other kind?
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I couldn't stand being around this negativity all the time, especially around the holidays when I get to see family I only get to see once or twice a year. It's one thing to talk with a family member about a problem, but you have to talk about other things, too, besides moonbat politics and what new mental illness or physical pain you've discovered.
Cindie
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I couldn't stand being around this negativity all the time, especially around the holidays when I get to see family I only get to see once or twice a year. It's one thing to talk with a family member about a problem, but you have to talk about other things, too, besides moonbat politics and what new mental illness or physical pain you've discovered.
Cindie
Yep. I imagine having a moonbat family member over for the holidays would be akin to being stuck behind one of them in rush hour, unable to avoid the hundred or so mind-numbing and repetitive bumper stickers plastered over their trunk.
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Is there any other kind?
No its that simple.
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I thank God that none of my 9 siblings nor my parents are liberal, we are all broken-glass conservatives. All their spouses and children are also. That's a lot of conservatives in just one family, LOL, because my 9 siblings have all had large families themselves, averaging 6 kids.
If one was a liberal, I don't suppose I'd disown them if they didn't get all crazy and in my face about it, but I certainly couldn't go out of my way to have much contact with them. It's not "just" politics, we are culturally conservative Christians and our whole worldview would be opposed. We just wouldn't have anything in common with a liberal.
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I thank God that none of my 9 siblings nor my parents are liberal, we are all broken-glass conservatives. All their spouses and children are also. That's a lot of conservatives in just one family, LOL, because my 9 siblings have all had large families themselves, averaging 6 kids.
If one was a liberal, I don't suppose I'd disown them if they didn't get all crazy and in my face about it, but I certainly couldn't go out of my way to have much contact with them. It's not "just" politics, we are culturally conservative Christians and our whole worldview would be opposed. We just wouldn't have anything in common with a liberal.
Both of my brothers are/were of the moonbat variety. My brother who died last year once called me a jingoistic sheeple. He apologized a few days later. Other than that we never really would fight. They both have at times said things (not directed towards me) that have driven me nuts but I let it go for the most part.
My older brother (the one who didn't die) is more of the stereotypical moonbat. Lives with my dad even though he is almost 50, thinks the world owes him, doesn't want to work towards anything yet he has worked for the same company for years but hasn't gotten a promotion in all the years he has worked there (partly due to his attitude and partly due to him not wanting any more responsibility). Says it isn't fair that our cousins are doing well in life (one is a pediatric oncologist) or he use to compare himself to my other brother who died or to my husband but doesn't realize that all of them have worked their asses off to get where they are.
With all that said, even though my only living brother (and my brother who has passed) and I have nothing in common AT ALL and he is on the weird side, I would do anything for him. He loves my kids and I know that he loves me. That is all that is important when push comes to shove.
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Smart money says that the DUchebag's family is tired of it always being a drama queen that contributes nothing to human kind and is a leech upon them and society in general.
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-18-09 04:40 AM
Original message
My family has disowned me for not being classist, racist, republican
I sent them all the link to my last post concerning my medical situation.
Here:
http://www.democraticunde...nd.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
My sister and her ex have both blocked my emails or changed their addys without telling me.
My brother pretended that he couldn't get the link to open. When I copy/pasted it out for him, I got no reply.
Now DU truly is my only family.
Burnt some bridges there didn't ya, DUmbass?
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Wiley50
Now DU truly is my only family.
Dude, if that's true, life isn't worth living.
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Yep. I imagine having a moonbat family member over for the holidays would be akin to being stuck behind one of them in rush hour, unable to avoid the hundred or so mind-numbing and repetitive bumper stickers plastered over their trunk.
LOL
Good analogy.
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I think most of the 'disownings' at the DUmp are exaggerated- They are probably a combination of family refusing to discuss politics with their moonbat kin, oversensitive primitive response to disagreements, or outright lies to manufacture street cred.
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Both of my brothers are/were of the moonbat variety. My brother who died last year once called me a jingoistic sheeple. He apologized a few days later. Other than that we never really would fight. They both have at times said things (not directed towards me) that have driven me nuts but I let it go for the most part.
My older brother (the one who didn't die) is more of the stereotypical moonbat. Lives with my dad even though he is almost 50, thinks the world owes him, doesn't want to work towards anything yet he has worked for the same company for years but hasn't gotten a promotion in all the years he has worked there (partly due to his attitude and partly due to him not wanting any more responsibility). Says it isn't fair that our cousins are doing well in life (one is a pediatric oncologist) or he use to compare himself to my other brother who died or to my husband but doesn't realize that all of them have worked their asses off to get where they are.
With all that said, even though my only living brother (and my brother who has passed) and I have nothing in common AT ALL and he is on the weird side, I would do anything for him. He loves my kids and I know that he loves me. That is all that is important when push comes to shove.
Yeah, my sibs and their broods are more like yours than the ones Duchess has. Moonbat tendencies, but nice people witha deep love of family. One sister (Now passed) married a guy who wasn't really political, just a weasel, and raised three weasels. The other one married a bigger moonbat than herself (But a homesteader/blue collar kind of guy, not just a useless mouth to feed) and their kids turned out pretty OK.
My 4 kids want to know they can't own rocket launchers, and what-the-hell business the government has butting in on that anyway.
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My 4 kids want to know they can't own rocket launchers, and what-the-hell business the government has butting in on that anyway.
TANNERITE! :evillaugh:
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Is there any other kind?
"It's not 'stink', man! It's my natural 'essence'. Besides, it's organic, man!" :rotf:
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.... :rotf:
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Both of my brothers are/were of the moonbat variety. My brother who died last year once called me a jingoistic sheeple. He apologized a few days later. Other than that we never really would fight. They both have at times said things (not directed towards me) that have driven me nuts but I let it go for the most part.
My older brother (the one who didn't die) is more of the stereotypical moonbat. Lives with my dad even though he is almost 50, thinks the world owes him, doesn't want to work towards anything yet he has worked for the same company for years but hasn't gotten a promotion in all the years he has worked there (partly due to his attitude and partly due to him not wanting any more responsibility). Says it isn't fair that our cousins are doing well in life (one is a pediatric oncologist) or he use to compare himself to my other brother who died or to my husband but doesn't realize that all of them have worked their asses off to get where they are.
With all that said, even though my only living brother (and my brother who has passed) and I have nothing in common AT ALL and he is on the weird side, I would do anything for him. He loves my kids and I know that he loves me. That is all that is important when push comes to shove.
If I had a liberal sibling I suppose I'd feel the way you do about it...depending. It would depend, for one thing, on how they lived their lives, because for me the Christian part matters more even than the conservative part. I suppose if they were really in a bind, I would help them if it ever was a drastic situation, but I just couldn't see myself having very much day-to-day interaction with them. Most liberals I have known make a point of pushing their beliefs in people's faces to get a childish reaction, and I just wouldn't want to deal with it. I couldn't bear listening to the swearing, or mocking God, or the vulgarities. Most of all, as you say, I couldn't bear the entitlement mentality. I really think most of them are so concerned with the "downtrodden" because they want a piece of the action themselves. That's why they want the state involved instead of leaving things to people's compassion. Most people won't be very "compassionate" to able-bodied people who think they are owed a piece of what others have to work for.