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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on November 14, 2009, 08:49:06 PM
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-14-09 01:57 PM
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Doesn't President Obama deserve time to try to right the wrongs of the past?
President Obama is not responsible for eveything that is wrong with the U.S. or the failures of the last eight years. He didn't
Illegally invade Iraq
Ignore the war in Afghanistan
Order detainees to be tortured
Repeal Glass Steagall
Implement the policies that led to the economic crisis
Cause the failure of the health care system
Give the lobbyist control of DC
Sign DADT into law
Sign DOMA into law
Sign NAFTA into Law
Underfund NCLB
Stack the courts with right wing hacks
Ignore the environment
Ignore Louisiana after Katrina
The list goes on---from homelessness in America to unemployment.
People will criticize Obama every step of the way as he tries to mend or reverse failing policies. He should expect criticism on the issues because not everyone is going to approve of his approach. However, for much of the time that he has been in office, some people have been questioning his character, labeling him a sell out, comparing him to Bush and posting facts about the effects of Bush's policies as if these were failures of the Obama administration.
Dissent shouldn't be an undeserved attack on the whole person. President Obama has done a tremendous amount of good since taking office. He has made missteps, and not everyone is going to agree with his approach to every issue. That doesn't mean he isn't trying, that he is a failure as a leader or that he is automatically right or wrong: he is trying to do the best he can---from Katrina to withdrawing from Iraq.
He deserves an appropriate amount of time to accomplish his agenda, and it's disgraceful that some people have chosen, from day one, to use distortions to question his motives.
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Yeah geez give the man a break it takes a while to undo over 200 years of evil. :whatever:
Every thing that Obama is messing up they will blame on Bush. I am willing to bet that it will somehow be Bush's fault that they have to buy insurance or pay fines. :mental:
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If that Obama puppet is the answer, the question must have been really stupid.
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Not even worth responding to. Beneath comptempt.
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gnore the war in Afghanistan
Order detainees to be tortured
Repeal Glass Steagall
Implement the policies that led to the economic crisis
Cause the failure of the health care system
Give the lobbyist control of DC
Shouldn't Obama be in the dock for this then and not Bush?
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Order detainees to be tortured
Imagine 9/11 happened during a Roosevelt admin. Either one, Teddy or Franklin.
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The problem with Bo blaming the past, and it's been only 10 months since Bo took office, is that Bo, the Obamaites, and the primitives all promised us during the presidential campaign last year that at 11:01 a.m. January 20, 2009, all would suddenly change.
They didn't promise us change; they promised us instant change, change in the twinkling of an eye.
Ten months is a damn sight longer than "instantly."
During other changes in presidential administrations, I've always given the president, whether friendly or hostile to him, about a year, before complimenting him or blaming things on him, because one can't control the past, and changes take a while.
But in the case of Bo, since Bo, the Obamaites, and the primitives promised us "instant change," that's the standard by which I judge Bo. If my judgement of Bo seems too harsh, it's Bo's, the Obamaites', and the primitives' own fault--they set the standards by which we are to judge Bo, and Bo is obviously falling far short of his, and their, standards.
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Ten months is a damn sight longer than "instantly."
Not on the 24 hour business clock, it isn't.
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Assuming Obama is a one-term president - he has already used up a quarter of his time in office (I don't count the lame duck months form election until inauguration of the new President..nothing happens then) - even as a two term President, Obama has already used up about 13% of his time in power -- How much more time does he need before he becomes responsible for his actions, primitives ?
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The problem with Bo blaming the past, and it's been only 10 months since Bo took office, is that Bo, the Obamaites, and the primitives all promised us during the presidential campaign last year that at 11:01 a.m. January 20, 2009, all would suddenly change.
They didn't promise us change; they promised us instant change, change in the twinkling of an eye.
Ten months is a damn sight longer than "instantly."
During other changes in presidential administrations, I've always given the president, whether friendly or hostile to him, about a year, before complimenting him or blaming things on him, because one can't control the past, and changes take a while.
But in the case of Bo, since Bo, the Obamaites, and the primitives promised us "instant change," that's the standard by which I judge Bo. If my judgement of Bo seems too harsh, it's Bo's, the Obamaites', and the primitives' own fault--they set the standards by which we are to judge Bo, and Bo is obviously falling far short of his, and their, standards.
Alligator mouths, hummingbird asses, you know the drill.
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Where to start.... The stupid is strong in this one....
ProSense (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-14-09 01:57 PM
Original message
Doesn't President Obama deserve time to try to right the wrongs of the past?
President Obama is not responsible for eveything that is wrong with the U.S. or the failures of the last eight years. He didn't
Illegally invade Iraq
Neither did Bush. He had the blessing of Congress AND the UN....
Ignore the war in Afghanistan
Though he is trying very hard to....
Order detainees to be tortured
Neither did Bush. Waterboarding is not torture....
Repeal Glass Steagall
Bubba Klintoon did that....
Implement the policies that led to the economic crisis
Dim Congress did that in 2006, and all Zero has done is implement policies that will prolong and worsen the crisis....
Cause the failure of the health care system
Health care system isn't broke, but Zero and Congress is working on that....
Give the lobbyist control of DC
This is different HOW?
Sign DADT into law
Bubba again....
Sign DOMA into law
Ditto....
Sign NAFTA into Law
Ditto, again....
Underfund NCLB
This is a good thing, since the now dead Fat Teddy was the "brainchild" behind it....
Stack the courts with right wing hacks
Sotomayor is a right wing hack? Who knew?
Ignore the environment
Just the environmentalists, and globull warming....
Ignore Louisiana after Katrina
Ignore America after election....
The list goes on---from homelessness in America to unemployment.
Zero is working tirelessly to increase both....
People will criticize Obama every step of the way as he tries to mend or reverse failing policies. He should expect criticism on the issues because not everyone is going to approve of his approach. However, for much of the time that he has been in office, some people have been questioning his character, labeling him a sell out, comparing him to Bush and posting facts about the effects of Bush's policies as if these were failures of the Obama administration.
I criticize Zero because he is a TOTAL MORON. He is the stupid that GWB was accused of being, times 2!
Dissent shouldn't be an undeserved attack on the whole person.
Like it was against Bush....
President Obama has done a tremendous amount of good since taking office.
Done a tremendous amount of good overseas trips and golf....
He has made missteps, and not everyone is going to agree with his approach to every issue. That doesn't mean he isn't trying, that he is a failure as a leader or that he is automatically right or wrong: he is trying to do the best he can---from Katrina to withdrawing from Iraq.
Every step he takes is a misstep. He isn't competent enough to pour piss out of a boot, with the directions written on the heel....
He deserves an appropriate amount of time to accomplish his agenda, and it's disgraceful that some people have chosen, from day one, to use distortions to question his motives.
Given his agenda, ANY amount of time is too much....
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How much more time does he need before he becomes responsible for his actions, primitives ?
The very micro-second that Obumbler has a real success. Which means never.