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Title: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: thundley4 on November 14, 2009, 07:38:59 PM
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CALGARY — Could oil and gas exploration — or the burial of climate-changing carbon dioxide deep underground — trigger earthquakes in the normally calm crust of Alberta?

Nobody knows for sure but a team of researchers from the University of Calgary plans to find out.

Most tremors in Alberta are too small to notice but sizable earthquakes do occur — as in 2001, when a 5.4-magnitude event rocked the northern Dawson Creek area and was felt as far south as Edmonton.

Scientists at the U of C's geoscience department hope to learn more about what causes these poorly understood subterranean movements by installing a series of monitoring devices across Alberta.

Earthquakes occur naturally but can also be human-induced, Dave Eaton, U of C head of geoscience, said Friday. Based on facts he pulled out of his ass

He said he wants to know more about the impact of the oil and gas industry on seismic activity — and better understand the potential seismic effects of underground CO2 storage, a largely untested technology seen by many governments as a magic bullet to arrest greenhouse gas-induced climate change.
Canadian moonbats (http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Alberta+scientists+probe+possible+human+causes+earthquakes/2221401/story.html)

How many earthquakes happen over in the middle east?  Let's see, someone comes up with the idea and methods for sequestering CO2 underground, and before it's even being done a whack job wants to sound the alarm.  I'm pretty sure many studies were done before they moved on to actually trying to do it.
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: DefiantSix on November 14, 2009, 09:01:38 PM
Can't nail down a human cause for Glow-Balls Warming, so they gotta try to blame humanity for something else.

These ****ers are nothing more than nuts.  N-U-T-Z.  Nuts.  :mental:
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: Lord Undies on November 14, 2009, 09:11:58 PM
Dead dinosaur juice is the cause of all evil.  It is their revenge for being forced into extinction by *.
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: DefiantSix on November 14, 2009, 10:10:03 PM
Dead dinosaur juice is the cause of all evil.  It is their revenge for being forced into extinction by *.

Damn that BFEE and the VRWC time machine!!
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 15, 2009, 08:07:59 AM
I can see how removal of significant quantities of oil or gas could change the pressure dynamics and trigger an earthquake, the whole pumping CO2 underground thing is just frickin' insane though.
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: Lord Undies on November 15, 2009, 08:20:14 AM
I can see how removal of significant quantities of oil or gas could change the pressure dynamics and trigger an earthquake, the whole pumping CO2 underground thing is just frickin' insane though.

The dynamics would favor the opposite reaction.  I don't recall any rash of earthquakes in the Middle East, Texas/Louisiana, or anywhere oil and gas has been abundant and harvested. 

   
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: thundley4 on November 15, 2009, 08:21:40 AM
I can see how removal of significant quantities of oil or gas could change the pressure dynamics and trigger an earthquake, the whole pumping CO2 underground thing is just frickin' insane though.

If pumping oil or gas could cause earthquakes, shouldn't there be more in the middle east?  Granted, it might contribute to their magnitude, but I think it will only happen in  those areas that are quake prone, already.  Couldn't the same theory be applied to pumping water from underground aquifers?  That isn't mentioned in the article.
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: ironhorsedriver on November 15, 2009, 09:06:31 AM
Jeez, wonder when we here in WV are going to collapse into a huge gaping, maw, the mother of all sink holes because of the coal mines and natural gas wells?
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 15, 2009, 09:26:11 AM
Jeez, wonder when we here in WV are going to collapse into a huge gaping, maw, the mother of all sink holes because of the coal mines and natural gas wells?

I have no idea....and yesterday I pissed in the woods instead of the toilet so any rise in ocean levels is my fault.
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: ironhorsedriver on November 15, 2009, 09:38:39 AM
I have no idea....and yesterday I pissed in the woods instead of the toilet so any rise in ocean levels is my fault.
And I bet you didn't give a single thought to how you would screw up the PH level of the ground you wizzed on, did you? You will be watched, close. Al Goracle will be seeing to that after he spots your post.
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 15, 2009, 10:03:05 AM
And I bet you didn't give a single thought to how you would screw up the PH level of the ground you wizzed on, did you? You will be watched, close. Al Goracle will be seeing to that after he spots your post.

OK....next time I'll hike my leg on a tree.....that ought to really set him off.
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 15, 2009, 10:03:15 AM
The dynamics would favor the opposite reaction.  I don't recall any rash of earthquakes in the Middle East, Texas/Louisiana, or anywhere oil and gas has been abundant and harvested. 

   

It depends on the technique and the geology, I doubt the latter is the same across those areas.  On the technique side, low-grade tarry oil may be recovered by injection wells pushing superheated brine into the rock strata to liquify and drive the oil to extraction wells, which could have quite a lubricating effect on a fault; if that technology was used in Alberta, it could easily become an issue.
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: Lord Undies on November 15, 2009, 11:08:22 AM
It depends on the technique and the geology, I doubt the latter is the same across those areas.  On the technique side, low-grade tarry oil may be recovered by injection wells pushing superheated brine into the rock strata to liquify and drive the oil to extraction wells, which could have quite a lubricating effect on a fault; if that technology was used in Alberta, it could easily become an issue.

Even "shallow" earthquakes take place about 50 miles below the surface.  The "deep" of the deepest oil wells are in the 7 mile range.  I say one would have to be trying to tease and trigger a fault line for it to make a difference.
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: thundley4 on November 15, 2009, 11:12:52 AM
I would think that underground testing of atomic bombs would have a better chance of triggering earthquakes way back when that was the norm.
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 15, 2009, 01:42:42 PM
Even "shallow" earthquakes take place about 50 miles below the surface.  The "deep" of the deepest oil wells are in the 7 mile range.  I say one would have to be trying to tease and trigger a fault line for it to make a difference.

It is, after all, a study to determine whether it could possibly have any effect.  Perhaps you should just email them the answer and save them the money.

 :-) 
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: Lord Undies on November 15, 2009, 03:22:29 PM
It is, after all, a study to determine whether it could possibly have any effect.  Perhaps you should just email them the answer and save them the money.

 :-) 

It's one of those studies we do not need to study to understand the motive behind such a study.  Regardless of the findings, the idea is that oil is evil and should never be brought to the surface to grease the wheels of capitalism.  The conclusion is already determined. 
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: Chris_ on November 15, 2009, 03:32:44 PM
the whole pumping CO2 underground thing is just frickin' insane though.

Exactly....it will simply combine with subterranean minerals and deep ground water and re-emerge in a different form.....a waste of effort.

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Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on November 15, 2009, 03:41:52 PM
Idjits. Everbody knows cow farts cause earthquakes.



Alfred Wegener, one of the fathers of plate tectonics, would roll over in his grave if he knew about these pinheads.  :mental:
Title: Re: Alberta scientists probe possible human causes of earthquakes
Post by: bkg on November 15, 2009, 03:58:34 PM
Idjits. Everbody knows cow farts cause earthquakes.



Alfred Wegener, one of the fathers of plate tectonics, would roll over in his grave if he knew about these pinheads.  :mental:

There's a lot of spinning in graves these days...

in the words of Chris Titus "I'm Whitey... and I apologize..."