spooked911 (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-10-09 06:56 AM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x274485
Fort Hood shootings-- the official story stinks to high heaven
There are multiple reports of more than one shooter. The improbability of the attacks. The whole story has the makings of a media psy-op with a classic patsy.
http://www.legitgov.org/attack_on_fort_hood_051109.html
CLG Exclusive: Fort Hood: 'This story stinks to high heaven.' SFC, who spent ten years at Fort Hood, comments on Ft. Hood events 09 Nov 2009 I spent 10 years at Ft Hood. There is no way this 'official' story is legitimate. No way would a room full of combat vets allow this one shooter to get off over 100 rounds! And, it is not normal for the outside security guards to be there. They are at the MP station, and at the main gates. This means the room full of soldiers processing must have been pinned down; multiple shooters is the only plausible scenario. this sounds like MAJ Hasan has been used, and perhaps is a patsy. --SFC Donald Buswell (Retired)
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Now we find out Nidal was being monitored by the Feds:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/us/10inquire.html
jakeXT (713 posts) Tue Nov-10-09 02:48 PM
Response to Original message
7. You must be one of those Hasans ;-)
Commentary: Hasan's conspiracy mentors
WASHINGTON, Nov. 9 (UPI) -- Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is the proverbial canary in the mine. Gunning down 12 soldiers and one civilian, and wounding 31 was not a random act of violence by an army psychiatrist who was slated to deploy to Afghanistan, an evil war in his mind, where American infidels are killing good Muslims. As the Virginia-born major told a female neighbor in his apartment complex, "I'm going to do good work for God." Hasan wanted, in his mind, to die a martyr, killing American soldiers who had been killing Muslim soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan, or would soon be doing so.
There are tens of thousands of Hasans all over the Western world -- from Brussels to Berlin and from Burgos, Spain, to Birmingham, U.K. For them, Sept. 11, 2001, was a conspiracy cooked up by the CIA and Mossad, Israel's external intelligence service. Even though al-Qaida's Osama bin Laden and his No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahiri have both taken credit for Sept. 11, countless millions are convinced they had nothing to do with the attacks on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.
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http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Analysis/2009/11/09/Comment...
BeFree (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-10-09 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Simple facts are
...throughout the whole 9-11 thing, we have been lied to and obstructed by the bush people.
And, the fact is, if those Muslim soldiers weren't living on top of "our" oil
they would never have a reason to be pissed at us.
So the question is: who struck the first blow? Who started the fight?
Which begs the question: where is the fight being waged and who has the most dead?
And a follow up: who will win? And what will a win look like?
Now, realizing that these are complex issues, I expect no real answers,
SO DON'T WORRY 'BOUT IT. IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT.
spooked911 (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-11-09 06:20 AM
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41. So no one has a problem that one guy with hand guns took out half a company
of trained soldiers? I mean, really?
DO you people even think about these things or just reflexively say bullshit to whatever I write?
cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-12-09 03:08 AM
Response to Reply #41
53. 15 rounds in the clip and one in the chamber.
How many rounds do you think I could put downrange with 32 rounds at my disposal without reloading, and 15 per weapon afterward?
As fast as I could pull the trigger.
Would you just think about that for ONE SECOND? By the way, in ONE SECOND, I could pull the trigger four times.
How long does it take to expel one clip and shove another one home? 2 seconds max?
I'll bet you your next paycheck that in the space of four minutes or 240 seconds, I could, using two semi-automatic Beretta M-9's, fire no less than 300 rounds.
I could fit three clips in each front pocket of my slacks, two in each back pocket, and two in my shirt pocket. That's 12 clips x 15 rounds, not counting what I had in my weapon when I decided to start firing.
Are you THAT much of a dufus?
spooked911 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-12-09 06:55 AM
Response to Reply #53
57. that is not the issue
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 07:03 AM by spooked911
1) it takes time to aim
2) the targets were soldiers
3) we don't know the range he supposedly shot from
If he was shooting at short range, then he could have shot several people quickly but the soldiers could have gotten on him quickly, limiting how many he could shoot.
If he was shooting at longer range, it is harder to hit people with handguns-- he would need more time to aim, there would be less accuracy, there was more time for people to scramble and find cover.
Either way, hard to see how he shot so many alone. And lots of people agree with me.
spooked911 (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-13-09 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #59
64. Ross is pure propaganda/disinfo
a piece of shit
spooked911 (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-04-09 06:33 AM
Original message
More evidence for impossible speed of "UA175"
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=...
Much controversy has surrounded the speeds reported for the World Trade Center attack aircraft. However, none of the arguments for either side of the debate have been properly based on actual data, until now. Pilots For 9/11 Truth have recently analyzed data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board in terms of a "Radar Data Impact Speed Study" in which the NTSB concludes 510 knots and 430 knots for United 175 (South Tower) and American 11 (North Tower), respectively. A benchmark has been set by the October 1999 crash of Egypt Air 990, a 767 which exceeded it's maximum operating limits causing in-flight structural failure, of which data is available to compare to the WTC Attack Aircraft. blah, blah, mihop blah....
DUmmy spooked911 is just another troofer nut. He posts in the DUmp's September 11 loony bin.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x274087
Look for them to create a Hasan fan club before too long.
On a light note does anyone remember the old Bugs Bunny cartoon where Hasan was chasing Bugs and saying "Hasan chop" for some reason that comes to my mind everytime I read this terrorists name.
Somebody needs to seriously f*ck this guy up.
Next thing you know, he'll be researching all over the internets to find the schematics of Ft. Hood to try to reenact the whole thing, he'll take pictures and post it as proof.
BeFree (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-10-09 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Simple facts are
...throughout the whole 9-11 thing, we have been lied to and obstructed by the bush people.
Next thing you know, he'll be researching all over the internets to find the schematics of Ft. Hood to try to reenact the whole thing, he'll take pictures and post it as proof.
And the DUmmies wonder why we question their patriotism.
I doubt one of these DU pansies ever held a firearm in it's life.
That's about what I was thinking. Right after "Good Lord, that's one stupid sumbitch," anyway.
God knows we can't trust our lying eyes when we watched the planes hit the towers. :whatever:
AW, I have heard that Hasan had a .357 Magnum revolver to go with the FN. Don't know which make.
I've never seen the Miculek video. Wow. That's fast.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2l8gk9k.jpg)
Above. Spooked911's reenactment of the Ft. Hood Shootings.
CLG Exclusive: Fort Hood: 'This story stinks to high heaven.' SFC, who spent ten years at Fort Hood, comments on Ft. Hood events 09 Nov 2009 I spent 10 years at Ft Hood. There is no way this 'official' story is legitimate. No way would a room full of combat vets allow this one shooter to get off over 100 rounds! And, it is not normal for the outside security guards to be there. They are at the MP station, and at the main gates. This means the room full of soldiers processing must have been pinned down; multiple shooters is the only plausible scenario. this sounds like MAJ Hasan has been used, and perhaps is a patsy. --SFC Donald Buswell (Retired)
Zero bongs. If this Donald Buswell even exists, the person who wrote this is not him.
Yes Sir Tanker. For those that don't know, Tankers are their own breed. A little nuts. But they're the best. I'll take a Tanker on my 6 over a zoomie any day
I know I'm gonna get torn a new one for this from the other members here that have served with distinction in the ARMY, NAVY, AIR FORCE and COAST GUARD, but here it goes: This woulda never happened on a Marine base. The second that POS started firing we'd have been on him like flies on a turd. And he would'nt be alive now.
Actually, I think we have located TiT.
http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2006%20Opinion%20Editorials/August/17%20o/US%20Army%20Attempted%20Assassination%20of%20Ghost%20Troop%20SFC%20Donald%20Buswell%20By%20Captain%20Eric%20H.%20May.htm