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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on November 13, 2009, 07:07:17 PM
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kswheels (130 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list
Holy crap. Sen. Kit Bond (R-Missouri) on Andrea Mitchell
"I think it is an insult to those who were brutally murder on September 11th to have the leaders of these cowardly acts sit in a courtroom blocks away from ground zero to reap the full benefits and protections of the US constitution."
Wow...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7008675
I happen to agree of course the DUmmies don't.
grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts)
1. Yeah who knew that the constitution was a conditional document
Hell its your side that thinks the constitution is a living document and doesn't always mean what it says.
kctim (444 posts)
14. They were American citizens
most Republicans don't believe non-Americans are entitled to the rights and protections granted to American citizens by the US Constitution.
Hell liberals don't think we are entitled to the rights and protections of the constitution. For years they have been chipping away bit by bit at those rights.
Too much stupidity in that thread to bring over here so I will let yall just row over there and take a look.
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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****ing clueless.
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kctim
14. most Republicans don't believe non-Americans are entitled to the rights and protections granted to American citizens by the US Constitution.
Viking12
Response to Reply #14
42. ...while at the saem (sic) time arguing that the Constitution is derived from natural law...
If derived from natural law it applies to everyone, if not applicable to everyone then it's not derived from natural law. They can't have it both ways.
OK, should you ever find yourself in England (guilty until proven innocent) having been arrested for committing a crime, make sure you use as your defense the US Constitution and tell their judges "But, it's natural law!! I'm innocent until proven guilty!!"
Idiot.
Oh, get this one...
peacetalksforall
35. I can't tell you how happy I am about the trials. I hope I'm not offending any friends or relatives of those who died. This was a criminal act and there was no criminal trial. Rumsfeld or Cheney, don't remember now, said outright that they did not want this act tried with a jury of peers in this country. I remember it so well. I don't have the exact wording, but it implied that the jury might have sympathizers.
Instead it was straight into Afghanistan as a token battle and Iraq on a long ride which was already in the planning way before 9-11.
And now, Republican networks are finally reporting the Cheney-Rumsfeld long term purpose - oil. They are taking it and are writing contracts and getting signatures. It hasn't gone according to the plan - the plan was to invade and march through the country with parade routes filled with people waving our flag and throwing roses. It's way behind the timetable. And, we are not loved.
Not loved, no roses, but limbs and lives fell everywhere.
It, their plan on behalf of the barons, fits together better as each day passes.
Nice rewrite of history. I'm sure in your fragile, egg-shell mind that's what really happened. :mental:
aquart
Response to Reply #35
38. Yep.
What pisses me off is that we SHOULD dismiss every case where there was torture. And we won't because of assholes like Kit Bond.
I say we give them weapons and release them into your house......... with you there.
Course, you'd probably ask them if you could join.
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This is something I could never figure out.
Why should non-American citizens enjoy our Constitutional rights?
Isn't that one of the benefits of being an American, having those specific rights?
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This is something I could never figure out.
Why should non-American citizens enjoy our Constitutional rights?
Isn't that one of the benefits of being an American, having those specific rights?
I find it ironic our rights are being stripped one by one yet the terrorists get new rights. I swear I must have woke up in a mirror universe everything seems to be backwards.
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Son Of A Bitch!
kctim
14. most Republicans don't believe non-Americans are entitled to the rights and protections granted to American citizens by the US Constitution.
Son of a Bitch!
Rarely do I use that phrase in it's exact content! SOBThis, borders on insanity!
For cryin' out loud! None of these asshats realize the rule of law, do they? Discovery could take years! What happens, with "National Security" in the mean time? How will that effect our security and the outcome of these frikkin' terrorists? Will they walk because we are unable to "disclose", for fear of State secrets?
Hey, DipStick, just how much more of a target do you think you're moron Messiah could have made NY? These pukes have already volunteered to be martyrs! They'd like nothing better than their brethren to "smoke 'em" while they were on trial in the "Infidel's" court!
Remember the days following 9/11? You people are idiots!
Lord, I sincerely hope you live there to experience the aftermath of some deviant weapon, produced by the very same assholes you defend, and it cleans your clock!
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If it were not for the rule of law and the existence of the constitution, these clowns would have been up against a wall years ago. In some countries I would be surprised if they ever made it a month before meeting their 72 virgins.
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Any trial will be tied in knots indefinitely by scum lawyers. Maybe the best solution would be to release these guys one at a time, keep track of them, and pop them with a Hellfire missile as soon as they're in a place where it's safe to shoot. Of course, since a jug-eared muslim now controls the trigger, their prospects for living out their natural lives are pretty good.
I expect Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who engineered the gruesome murders of 3000 Americans, will have his every need provided by the taxpayers until he dies an old man.
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This should be a lesson for all future captures: Two shots to the head, post the pictures on the innerwebz.
Hey, they were resisting. :whatever:
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Of course, since a jug-eared muslim now controls the trigger, their prospects for living out their natural lives are pretty good.
I expect Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who engineered the gruesome murders of 3000 Americans, will have his every need provided by the taxpayers until he dies an old man.
He'll probably get the nod as the new Homeland Security Czar....
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peacetalksforall:
Rumsfeld or Cheney, don't remember now, said outright that they did not want this act tried with a jury of peers in this country. I remember it so well. I don't have the exact wording, but it implied that the jury might have sympathizers.
Apparently, DUmmie, you do not remember it "very well".
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He'll probably get the nod as the new Homeland Security Czar....
Crap!! Don't say shit like that. Øbamessiah monitors the innerwebs, and you probably just gave him what he thinks is a wonderful idea. :banghead: :banghead:
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And yet these are the same idiots who are first in line criticizing our "imposing our way of life on different cultures" when we try to free them from murderous dictators and thugs.
Irony--doing it so well they don't even realize it.
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Found this over at Blackfive, it sums up my feelings pretty well:
So: We are now going to have a trial that never had to happen for defendants who have no defense. And when defendants have no defense for their own actions, there is only one thing for their lawyers to do: put the government on trial in hopes of getting the jury (and the media) spun up over government errors, abuses and incompetence. That is what is going to happen in the trial of KSM et al. It will be a soapbox for al-Qaeda's case against America. Since that will be their "defense," the defendants will demand every bit of information they can get about interrogations, renditions, secret prisons, undercover operations targeting Muslims and mosques, etc., and — depending on what judge catches the case — they are likely to be given a lot of it. The administration will be able to claim that the judge, not the administration, is responsible for the exposure of our defense secrets. And the circus will be played out for all to see — in the middle of the war. It will provide endless fodder for the transnational Left to press its case that actions taken in America's defense are violations of international law that must be addressed by foreign courts. And the intelligence bounty will make our enemies more efficient at killing us.
http://www.blackfive.net/