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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on November 13, 2009, 05:48:26 PM
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-13-09 06:25 PM
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Since Ray-Gun's election in 1980, can anyone name 1 conservative achievement that advanced humanity?
This question is more intended for lurkers, visiting Freepers, lurking moderates. But all are invited to comment.
Name 1 conservative and/or Rethug achievement that didn't drown us in debt or turn budget surpluses into deficits. Name 1 achievement that has advanced human rights. Name 1 achievement that has made life better for the little fella. Name 1 achievement that has protected the worker, the blue collar, the middle class.
That's a direct challenge to any conservative that might read this.
I'm expecting crickets. Not because we don't have any Cons that read DU. We do.
It's because there are no conservative achievements that have bettered humanity or advanced life for ALL Americans.
Democratic achievements:
1. A balanced budget and budget surpluses in the mid-late 90's. All destroyed by the irresponsible Bush tax cuts of '03.
2. The strongest value our dollar had ever seen in that same time frame. Destroyed by Booooosh.
3. The only time that our nation had actually paid down our national debt, in that same time frame. Vaporized by Boooosh.
4. Historically low unemployment rates in that same time frame. Obliterated by Boooosh.
5. Starting in 1993 under the order of Pres Clinton, the downsizing and reorganization of our military into a leaner, meaner fighting force that also saved us a ton of money and helped lead to balanced budgets.
6. Proving that a tax increase signed by Clinton and enacted in 1993 was followed by the strongest economic growth in American history.
Based on achievements, conservative Rethugs couldn't hold a Democrat's jock.
Reich Wingers, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7010617
Hey moron of course you will get crickets. Conservatives are NOT allowed to post there. :banghead:
I'll give you a hint of just one it just had the 20th anniversary and lord O didn't attend, instead he sent a video where he praised himself.
But to be fair that event was the downfall of the system that you and Obama want for the US so it won't be seen as an achievement.
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How about the great achievement that we DO NOT have "universal health care"? That's a big one!
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1. A fair dose of smoke and mirrors but also a beneficiary of the tech bubble and gutting the defense budget which needed rebuilding.
2. Going to admit I don`t know the positives/negatives of this so won`t comment.
3. See number 1
4. An out and out lie as unemployment by the end of Reagans term was at the lowest level it had been in decades and stayed there until just last year.
5. Saved money but along Torricelli and Gorelick on intelligence matters left us open to terrorist attacks.
6. Then why hasn`t O pushed hard for one?
Once again ignoring the dot com bubble.
In fact Reagan led us into the longest period of sustained growth we have perhaps ever seen while eliminating the threat of nuclear war.
Lets see..what Presidents have made us more endangered?
Clinton sent failure Carter to stop North Korea and managed to secure a treaty that was cheated on from the start now allowing them to have nukes.
Clinton did nothing to prevent the expansion of islamofacisim (thanks again for that one Jimmy) in the Middle East which is only beginning to be seriously addressed or was until O got his incompetent fingers on it.
You idiots don`t want to get into this discussion with people that know facts and don`t conveniently ignore history.
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1. A fair dose of smoke and mirrors but also a beneficiary of the tech bubble and gutting the defense budget which needed rebuilding.
2. Going to admit I don`t know the positives/negatives of this so won`t comment.
3. See number 1
4. An out and out lie as unemployment by the end of Reagans term was at the lowest level it had been in decades and stayed there until just last year.
5. Saved money but along Torricelli and Gorelick on intelligence matters left us open to terrorist attacks.
6. Then why hasn`t O pushed hard for one?
Once again ignoring the dot com bubble.
In fact Reagan led us into the longest period of sustained growth we have perhaps ever seen while eliminating the threat of nuclear war.
Lets see..what Presidents have made us more endangered?
Clinton sent failure Carter to stop North Korea and managed to secure a treaty that was cheated on from the start now allowing them to have nukes.
Clinton did nothing to prevent the expansion of islamofacisim (thanks again for that one Jimmy) in the Middle East which is only beginning to be seriously addressed or was until O got his incompetent fingers on it.
You idiots don`t want to get into this discussion with people that know facts and don`t conveniently ignore history.
That my friend, is why he posted it at the safety of the DUmp. Knowing full well if anyone bothered to post a retort it would be scrubbed by Winston Skinner.
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Typial liberal dickhead mentality. Expecting government to better their lives.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/Liberal%20Baiting/JohnnyCash.jpg)
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Sure, I could name a bunch of things, the fall of the USSR topping the list. But what would it matter to a primitive like Union Yes. These types of kooks come up with excuses as to why it wasn't conservatives and conservative values that did these things. Little do the idiot Union Yes primitives of the world realize that it's not them who gets to decide what is and what isn't conservative and/or liberal accomplishments, it's people like me who are their intellectual superior in every conceivable way. They aren't mentally capable of reaching those type of conclusions.
I mean, all you have to do is look and see what Freeper already pointed out; this whackjob requested to get answers from conservatives to his stupid question on a board we're not even permitted to post upon. Really, how dumb is that? This is nothing more than some primitive thumping his bird chest trying to impress the other primitives. Whoo-Hoo!! :mental:
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6. Proving that a tax increase signed by Clinton and enacted in 1993 was followed by the strongest economic growth in American history.
That kind of stupid ought to hurt.
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1. A fair dose of smoke and mirrors but also a beneficiary of the tech bubble and gutting the defense budget which needed rebuilding.
2. Going to admit I don`t know the positives/negatives of this so won`t comment.
3. See number 1
4. An out and out lie as unemployment by the end of Reagans term was at the lowest level it had been in decades and stayed there until just last year.
5. Saved money but along Torricelli and Gorelick on intelligence matters left us open to terrorist attacks.
6. Then why hasn`t O pushed hard for one?
Once again ignoring the dot com bubble.
In fact Reagan led us into the longest period of sustained growth we have perhaps ever seen while eliminating the threat of nuclear war.
Lets see..what Presidents have made us more endangered?
Clinton sent failure Carter to stop North Korea and managed to secure a treaty that was cheated on from the start now allowing them to have nukes.
Clinton did nothing to prevent the expansion of islamofacisim (thanks again for that one Jimmy) in the Middle East which is only beginning to be seriously addressed or was until O got his incompetent fingers on it.
You idiots don`t want to get into this discussion with people that know facts and don`t conveniently ignore history.
Uh.........bringing the Soviet Union to it's knees, ought to count for sumpin'!
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Uh.........bringing the Soviet Union to it's knees, ought to count for sumpin'!
Not to mention that the balanced budgets happened when the Republicans ran Congress. The first balanced budget happened when Newt was Speaker.
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Not to mention Iran-Contra, man that as sure great. Man, i miss Reagan
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Not to mention Iran-Contra, man that as sure great. Man, i miss Reagan
:whatever:
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Not to mention Iran-Contra, man that as sure great. Man, i miss Reagan
How cute,tell us now how corruption thy name is Clinton did anything except spend 8 years worrying about BJs rather then terrorsits.
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Not to mention Iran-Contra, man that as sure great. Man, i miss Reagan
Troll Alert.
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Troll Alert.
I'm willing to bet he or she isn't even old enough to remember President Reagan is just parroting what some teacher said.
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I'm willing to bet he or she isn't even old enough to remember President Reagan is just parroting what some teacher said.
Probably. Sad ain't it. What did Reagan do? Let's start with this...
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The DUmmy troll doesn't know history. The Iran-Contra deal would have been unnecessary had it not been for democrats supporting a communist regime in Central America. President Reagan did what he had to do to protect America, and, as usual, he was successful. Only leftist moonbat lunatics view Colonel North and his mission to aid the Nicaraguan Contras in a negative light.
As far as what Reagan achieved, aside from the defeat of world communism, consider the prosperity we still enjoy. Many of us would not be sitting in front of $1000+ computers were it not for the mammoth increase in the standard of living generated by the Reagan boom.
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Not to mention Iran-Contra, man that as sure great. Man, i miss Reagan
Are you familiar with the concept of "curb stomping", troll?
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Not to mention Iran-Contra, man that as sure great. Man, i miss Reagan
:whatever:
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Had your Libtard brethren not been glad handing every Socialist thug in the third world...ESPECIALLY in South America none of the stuff you mock would have been necessary.
And before you shoot off your mouth again about our dealings in South America...look up the Roosevelt Corollary and the Monroe Doctrine
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Ronaldus Maximus managed to free the hostages in Iran simply by being elected.......and clearly campaigning on the fact that he wouldn't put up with any crap from them.....or anyone else for that matter.
doc
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Ronaldus Maximus managed to free the hostages in Iran simply by being elected.......and clearly campaigning on the fact that he wouldn't put up with any crap from them.....or anyone else for that matter.
doc
Lets not forget he forced the Evil Empire to change it's ways.
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A question which begs for "Life of Bryan - what have the Romans ever done for us?" shtick.
Well, there was the whole 'Winning the Cold War' thing. Aside from that, just the 'Curbing Libyan terrorism' too of course. And then there was whole reconstitution of the US Armed Forces after Carter nearly destroyed them. And of course the whole economic recovery from Carter's stagflation and runaway interest rates. Other than that, why hardly anything, really...
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I dunno.
It's been a long time now, and I was young, when I drove from New Jersey back to Nebraska, a year after Reagan had become president, and while the country was still afflicted with what the Incompetent One (1977-1981) had wrought.
I drove across New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, and then into Nebraska. The route I followed went through most major cities.
In 1993, I went the same route, excepting from Nebraska to New Jersey.
I had been around during the intervening years, but not this same route.
In early 1982, I passed through much desolation and desertion; not just buildings but entire malls closed down and boarded up, long lines outside of city missions and the unemployment offices, litter-filled vacant lots, run-down houses.
In early 1993, the exact same places were now in use, renovated, and bustling, and there were no lines outside of city missions and unemployment offices, few vacant lots, and houses well-kept.
Remembering from what I had seen eleven years earlier, in the same places, I wondered why America had been so ungrateful that they had rejected George Bush the year before. It blew my mind.
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I dunno.
Remembering from what I had seen eleven years earlier, in the same places, I wondered why America had been so ungrateful that they had rejected George Bush the year before. It blew my mind.
I suspect that you can thank that clown Ross Perot for that........
doc
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Plus, Col. North pretty much played a shell game with Iran brass on mil. hardware that was actually combat viable until he ran out of excuses for them. Stopping the Sandinistas from gaining ground across that region of Central America will always draw tears from a dickhead commie, though.
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I suspect that you can thank that clown Ross Perot for that........
And the network news. I remember feeling so fortunate to be doing so well, when every evening I heard on TV that 1992 was the worst economy since the Great Depression.
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And the network news. I remember feeling so fortunate to be doing so well, when every evening I heard on TV that 1992 was the worst economy since the Great Depression.
You know, I had a premonition about that, when I saw, circa autumn 1991, a solemn Dan Rather morosely announcing a recession was underway, and that it was bad.
Dan Rather seemed to announce it long before anyone in print journalism seemed to find a recession.
I had a queasy feeling that Dan Rather was making up things so as to defeat George Bush, who only months before had enjoyed 90+% approval ratings (the end of the War for the Liberation of Kuwait).
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And the network news. I remember feeling so fortunate to be doing so well, when every evening I heard on TV that 1992 was the worst economy since the Great Depression.
The MSM says that everytime there is a chance that a conservative could be elected.......it is fortunate that they no longer have the monopoly on information that they enjoyed back then.....
doc
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I had a queasy feeling that Dan Rather was making up things so as to defeat George Bush, who only months before had enjoyed 90+% approval ratings (the end of the War for the Liberation of Kuwait).
And we can look at how well that strategy worked out for Ol' Dan.....karma is a real bitch sometimes.....
It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.......
doc
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And we can look at how well that strategy worked out for Ol' Dan.....karma is a real bitch sometimes.....
It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.......
doc
Yep--"fake but accurate." :tongue:
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You know, I had a premonition about that, when I saw, circa autumn 1991, a solemn Dan Rather morosely announcing a recession was underway, and that it was bad.
Dan Rather seemed to announce it long before anyone in print journalism seemed to find a recession.
I had a queasy feeling that Dan Rather was making up things so as to defeat George Bush, who only months before had enjoyed 90+% approval ratings (the end of the War for the Liberation of Kuwait).
Dan Rathers hatred for the Bush family may stem back farther then I think but I suspect it comes from the evening during the 1988 campaign when he was interviewing VP Bush and brought up Iran Contra trying to ambush him.
President Bush let loose on him and gut punched him with by saying that "how would you like your entire career judged by those 7 minutes you walked off the air" regarding an incident a year or so earlier where he left the anchor desk in a snit.
Rather was left speechless.
http://www.ratherbiased.com/bush_attack.htm
I suspect that played into the TANG memo fiasco as part of a vendetta and ultimately that is the event that his career is judged by.