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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Golem on November 13, 2009, 12:36:44 PM
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The frenetic hostility to Sarah Palin, even by many on the Republican side, is unnerving, because her qualifications to be president are objectively better than those of almost anyone who has been on the national ticket over the past decade.
A reasonable conclusion is that these qualifications are precisely the cause of the hostility. To admit to the reality that the dominant political class, including the MSM and the punditocracy of both parties, has been giving us abysmal presidential candidates, to accept that a hockey mom plucked from small-town Alaska is better than the best that the political class can come up with, would require recognition of the terrible truth that the system has become deeply dysfunctional. Doing this would force our political elites to look into an abyss of serious questions about the functioning of our democracy. Palin creates a cognitive dissonance so intense that it simply cannot be accepted...
Slobbering Palin worship at it's best. I want to have what the author is drinking.
Read the whole thing, if you can keep from laughing. (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/sarah-palin-and-the-dysfunctional-political-class/)
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Pretty much says it in a nutshell, doesn't it? The ruling elites in the beltway (BOTH parties) are being challenged, and they don't like it, not one little bit.
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There are a fair amount of Palin supporters here, myself included.
:popcorn:
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There are a fair amount of Palin supporters here, myself included.
:popcorn:
But are you a slobbering worshipper? :-)
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But are you a slobbering worshipper? :-)
I am not a slobbering worshipper but I sure would like to see her reside in the Oval Office after the next election
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I am not a slobbering worshipper but I sure would like to see her reside in the Oval Office after the next election
That's never going to happen, you know.
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Sarah was and in fact IS better qualified to be President of the USA than the current POTUS. All the POTUS is qualified to do is read from the TOTUS, dither on difficult decisions , call for "confrences" and vote present.
Sarah had to negotiate with the EVIL "Big Oil", and did so successfully. Negotiate with Canada and Russia over such things as oil/gas rights, fishing areas, closed fishing grounds, catch limits, drilling areas, and who knows what else. Had to have beem effective/successful, as there is no kickback over what went on is there?
Yet, there is a kickback over damned near everything that Obama oes or , much more importantly, fails to do. So far, nothing positive unless you know something everyone else does not.
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Look at this silliness:
This leaves Joe Lieberman and Dick Cheney as the only candidates with any weight...
Cheney has never been and never will be a candidate.
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As to "never" ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwP0K6Aw3pg
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But are you a slobbering worshipper? :-)
Heh, not quite.
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She's a fine person but I wish people would realize that she's not running for president.
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She's a fine person but I wish people would realize that she's not running for president.
It's hard to tell how things will play out, and even if I were to generally agree with you, I would still take issue with your sense of firm finality. You have no way of being certain of anything regarding the the future, or even current, political landscape.
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It's hard to tell how things will play out, and even if I were to generally agree with you, I would still take issue with your sense of firm finality. You have no way of being certain of anything regarding the the future, or even current, political landscape.
True. And I've been known to be wrong. :lmao:
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True. And I've been known to be wrong. :lmao:
You too??
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You too??
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
I bet if your wife were to tell it, you thought you were right once, but you were mistaken.
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I bet if your wife were to tell it, you thought you were right once, but you were mistaken.
Well, we just won't ask her opinion, now will we? :uhsure:
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That's never going to happen, you know.
And you know that exactly how??
doc
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I think she's great, but 'way too much of a lightning rod to win in a general election. She can do a tremendous service by drawing all the fire in the meantime, and then moving the football when the Dems try to kick it with a "Well, I'm not running for President, morans" once they have blown half their warchest sliming her.
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^I'm hoping that was her plan all along.
She's got that fire that us conservatives have been looking for in the GOP. I would love to see her reside in the White House. I also wouldn't be disappointed if she remained a power player for our team though. Sarah has a place in politics. The repsonse she got during the campaign proves that. Now let's see where it goes....
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I think Sarah could breathe new life into the GOP
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Well, we just won't ask her opinion, now will we? :uhsure:
Wow, she let's you call it an opinion? You've got it great brother. :cheersmate:
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Golem, that article is nothing compared to the regular knob jobs the Bronze statue gets from the MSM, particularly Chris Matthews who FFITP everytime Obama reads.
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There are a fair amount of Palin supporters here, myself included.
:popcorn:
And me too!!! :cheersmate:
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Apparently the AP has "Fact Checked" her book already. It took TEN writers to do it. AP writers Matt Apuzzo, Sharon Theimer, Tom Raum, Rita Beamish, Beth Fouhy, H. Josef Hebert, Justin D. Pritchard, Garance Burke, Dan Joling and Lewis Shaine contributed to this report.
All I can say is WOW
LINK (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/11/associated-press-in-full-attack-mode.html)
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I think she's great, but 'way too much of a lightning rod to win in a general election. She can do a tremendous service by drawing all the fire in the meantime, and then moving the football when the Dems try to kick it with a "Well, I'm not running for President, morans" once they have blown half their warchest sliming her.
Keep workin' that "Palin" jab and then the "right" hook...
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Apparently the AP has "Fact Checked" her book already. It took TEN writers to do it. AP writers Matt Apuzzo, Sharon Theimer, Tom Raum, Rita Beamish, Beth Fouhy, H. Josef Hebert, Justin D. Pritchard, Garance Burke, Dan Joling and Lewis Shaine contributed to this report.
All I can say is WOW
LINK (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/11/associated-press-in-full-attack-mode.html)
And they obtained a copy of her book illegally. Talk about obsessive. The very fact that the left is terrified of her, makes me like her that much more.
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And they obtained a copy of her book illegally. Talk about obsessive. The very fact that the left is terrified of her, makes me like her that much more.
It's amazing how much viseral hate she inspires merely by smiling. :-)
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Apparently the AP has "Fact Checked" her book already. It took TEN writers to do it. AP writers Matt Apuzzo, Sharon Theimer, Tom Raum, Rita Beamish, Beth Fouhy, H. Josef Hebert, Justin D. Pritchard, Garance Burke, Dan Joling and Lewis Shaine contributed to this report.
All I can say is WOW
LINK (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/11/associated-press-in-full-attack-mode.html)
If that's their worst, Palin's going to obliterate 'em.
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I think she should run for president, but if she doesn't then that's fine too.
She has a lot of power either way, she will always remain an inspiring enigma to the conservatives of this country.
Or she can just enjoy a long retirement on her book sales and keep that positive attitude up that makes libs druel with aggression.
I think what she has planned is she is waiting for another Republican administration to take over and get a high ranking administration job.
Retire after that and spend the rest of her life making speeches at universities for 50k a pop.
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I think what she has planned is she is waiting for another Republican administration to take over and get a high ranking administration job.
I think she'd easily topple Imadinnerjacket with her charm, wit and beauty.
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I think she'd easily topple Imadinnerjacket with her charm, wit and beauty.
She'd have half the imams that back him willing to convert to Christianity, just so she'd take her boot off their necks.
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Sarah Palin is a true lady and would look great in a position of power such as the POTUS
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I would like to see her as Sec'y of State before running for the office of POTUS.
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I would like to see her as Sec'y of State before running for the office of POTUS.
Not a bad idea, but compared to Obama she'd be a WONDERFUL POTUS!
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I saw this on Politico, not sure if it's a joke? If not, how terribly sad for Newsweek to ever be taken seriously again !
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM130_dom_11_23_09.html
I'm a Sarah fan too. :heart:
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I saw this on Politico, not sure if it's a joke? If not, how terribly sad for Newsweek to ever be taken seriously again !
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM130_dom_11_23_09.html
I'm a Sarah fan too. :heart:
Did you ever take Newsweek seriously at all?
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I saw this on Politico, not sure if it's a joke? If not, how terribly sad for Newsweek to ever be taken seriously again !
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM130_dom_11_23_09.html
I'm a Sarah fan too. :heart:
RedState has an interesting take on NewsWeak's attack on Sarah Palin.
Does This Mean Newsweek Stands in For the Nazis?*
Posted by Erick Erickson (Profile)
Saturday, November 14th at 1:51PM EST
12 Comments
Hot Air brings us word that Newsweek is declaring war on Sarah Palin. The magazine that has given up all pretense of objective news coverage and now caters to an ever shrinking Upper West Side Elite is making Palin the cover of Newsweek (PDF) with the title “How Do You Solve A Problem Like Sarah?†with the subheading “she’s bad news for the GOP — and everyone else too.â€
There’s just one problem.
The title comes from “The Sound of Music†and the song “How Do You Solve a Problem Like Maria?â€
Maria, you see, was the hero and protagonist of the musical and, later, the movie.
And Maria was pursued by the Nazis.
Hmmmm . . . so if Palin is Maria and Newsweek is out to get her, perhaps Newsweeks’s red, black, and white masthead is appropriate.
*Sure, it was the nuns who sang the song, but the Nazis who were out to destroy her. And besides, we can’t really see Jon “God Supports Gay Marriage†Meacham as a nun.
RedState (http://www.redstate.com/)
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I think that Palin should win Pres and she should make Michelle Bachman Vice-Pres, then after 3 months in office we should take them out and replace them with trained penguins in Palin and Bachman's outfits and see if anyone notices, I got a Benjamin that the penguins get more done, solve more problems and are easier to understand.
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Hey, look... a retard.
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Hey, look... a retard.
You people are in her drooling about the chances of this women holding the highest elected office in the land, this is the same women who didnt care about the citizens of Alaska enough to continue being Governer claming that she was in the spotlight too much, then turned around and promptly wrote a cash grabbing book and embarked on a media tour thats puts her even more in the spotlight. Guess she wanted to get the "pub" but didnt want to have to actually do a real job for it, like being Governer of Alsaka. What is her job exactly? Why do you think she could handle the job of POTUS if she cant even govern Alaska for two years?
Im the retard, right?
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You people are in her drooling about the chances of this women holding the highest elected office in the land, this is the same women who didnt care about the citizens of Alaska enough to continue being Governer claming that she was in the spotlight too much, then turned around and promptly wrote a cash grabbing book and embarked on a media tour thats puts her even more in the spotlight. Guess she wanted to get the "pub" but didnt want to have to actually do a real job for it, like being Governer of Alsaka. What is her job exactly? Why do you think she could handle the job of POTUS if she cant even govern Alaska for two years?
Im the retard, right?
If you support 0Bama, there is little doubt that you are a retard. He has less experience by far than Sarah Palin had. He is the first Affirmative Action president.
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We already have a penguin in the White House... he's half black, half white, and doesn't know his own ass from a hole in the ground.
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If you support 0Bama, there is little doubt that you are a retard. He has less experience by far than Sarah Palin had. He is the first Affirmative Action president.
Please explain how Obama had "far less experience" than Palin? Say what you want about Obama, but he never just quit being a senator because it was too hard.
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The guy showed up for 140 days of work in two years. That's about as little experience as you can get and still hold a job.
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The guy showed up for 140 days of work in two years. That's about as little experience as you can get and still hold a job.
True, and I think every senator needs to work more, but Palin quit her job altogether and is now????????? A book hack? A talk show staple? A pundit? Please tell me what she does now?
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The only person that missed more work than Barack Obama was John McCain and some guy that had a stroke. At least John McCain had a career before running for President.
Her decision to step down as Governor was because of the legal harassment brought on by Democratic Party members bringing dozens of complaints and lawsuits against her, all of which Palin was found not guilty of, but was obligated to pay for her own legal expenses. What kind of person would chose to stay in that kind of situation where every liberal shut-in with the ACLU's phone number could sue her for any number of reasons?
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Plus she had no establishment Rep. backup, as she had derailed theier gravy train, re-negotiated the pipeline contract getting more $ for Alaskan citizens, and had a few tossed out and arrested for curruption.
And she has a family to support, so she needed to let the Alaskan Gvt. have a Gov. not embrioled in litigation and get on with earning a living.
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I think that Palin should win Pres and she should make Michelle Bachman Vice-Pres, then after 3 months in office we should take them out and replace them with trained penguins in Palin and Bachman's outfits and see if anyone notices, I got a Benjamin that the penguins get more done, solve more problems and are easier to understand.
If Sarah Palin was a man named, for instance, George Palin, who was Governor of Alaska, taken on Big Oil and won, put corrupt politicos in jail, run a successful fishing business, and looked like George Clooney, would all the same people who are trashing Sarah be trashing George? Just askin'...
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Please explain how Obama had "far less experience" than Palin? Say what you want about Obama, but he never just quit being a senator because it was too hard.
He never was a real senator. Check how many times he voted "present" versus voting yes or no on bills in both the Illinois legislature and the Senate. One of his actual votes was one to kill babies. So I guess that puts him one up on Palin.
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"Barack Obama missed 314 (24%) of 1300 votes since Jan 6, 2005. [He] sponsored 121 bills since Jan 24, 2005 of which 115 haven't made it out of committee and 3 were successfully enacted."
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400629
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If Sarah Palin was a man named, for instance, George Palin, who was Governor of Alaska, taken on Big Oil and won, put corrupt politicos in jail, run a successful fishing business, and looked like George Clooney, would all the same people who are trashing Sarah be trashing George? Just askin'...
I think we found out who flips Daisy's switches. :naughty: :-)
Good point. I'd like to see an answer to that myself.
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I'm of the mind that Sarah Palin will run for POTUS, and she'll win . . .
. . . in 2020. Let's face it--Obama is going to do some serious damage to the USA. Damage that may very well take 12 to 16 years to fix. Sure, Obama doesn't think that he's doing damage, even when confronted with unemployment rates in the low teens (I heard something today that the unemployment rate could hit 13% soon). He's trying to remake the USA into the European socialist mold, where unemployment rates are commonly over 10%. How far can he get? Let's look at Bill Clinton, who also tried to ram his socialist vision of health care "refom" through Congress. When Billy Bob's Dems took their bath in 1994, he adapted smartly and passed most of what the Contract With America called for. Obama's not that politically smart, and he's far more arrogant than Clinton (once, I thought that that wasn't possible). Obama will not change his political course, even though the House and Senate will be much more hostile to him. So, he'll continue to screw up, and give the 2012 Republican contenders more grist for their runs. Obama will get beat, and will likely see the Dems in the Senate lose the fillibuster, as 24 of the 33 Senate seats up for re-election in 2012 are held by Dems. By how much is still a matter of serious conjecture.
To get back to my premise, I think that Tim Pawlenty is the frontrunner at the moment. He gained some serious cred by supporting Doug Hoffman in NY-23 (which may still go Hoffman's way). I also think that, as much as I want to not think this, that George Pataki will try to run, and he'll be supported by moderate Republicans like John McCain. Pataki also supported Hoffman in the special election, but that won't be enough to get him the nomination from the conservative base.
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You people are in her drooling about the chances of this women holding the highest elected office in the land, this is the same women who didnt care about the citizens of Alaska enough to continue being Governer claming that she was in the spotlight too much, then turned around and promptly wrote a cash grabbing book and embarked on a media tour thats puts her even more in the spotlight. Guess she wanted to get the "pub" but didnt want to have to actually do a real job for it, like being Governer of Alsaka. What is her job exactly? Why do you think she could handle the job of POTUS if she cant even govern Alaska for two years?
Im the retard, right?
I love how Gov. Palin sets these morons on their ear.
Stop huffing and puffing, idiot.
And yes, you're the retard. If you take the time to stop licking the windows of your basement and eating those colorful paint chips, you'd be better off.
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from moonbattery
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True, and I think every senator needs to work more, but Palin quit her job altogether and is now????????? A book hack? A talk show staple? A pundit? Please tell me what she does now?
Some things are more important than politics, bucko. Like family, for instance.
Sarah learned that she could be even more effective to her party and to her family by not having the office of Governor of Alaska hanging around her neck like an albatross.
Don't mistake her resigning her governorship as a sign of weakness - think of it as a ticket to freedom.
She is going to speak her mind on the issues as she sees them - and not have to worry about idiots from the AP and the Democratic Party who pick apart her statements, twist them into things she hasn't said, and take her to court at every occasion possible.
She is a gutsy lady - and a real threat to the Dems.
So tell me, bucko...why are you interested in Sarah Palin? Do you think of her as a threat?
How do you compare Sarah Palin with your hero Barack Obama? Palin, as a political leader who achieved the highest elected position in Alaska compared to Barack Obama, a communty "organizer" and sometimes-senator from a politically-corrupt state like Illinois?
That you apparently can't see the difference is a testament to your own blindness -- likely fomented as a result of drinking the Obama Kool-Aid.
Better be careful about that Kool-Aid, bucko. It'll kill ya graveyard dead.
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RedState has an interesting take on NewsWeak's attack on Sarah Palin.
RedState (http://www.redstate.com/)
As always, Erick is spot on. :cheersmate:
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If Sarah Palin was a man named, for instance, George Palin, who was Governor of Alaska, taken on Big Oil and won, put corrupt politicos in jail, run a successful fishing business, and looked like George Clooney, would all the same people who are trashing Sarah be trashing George? Just askin'...
Love it ! Also, add to the resume PTA President and Mayor. Any ONE of those accomplishments would make "George" more qualified than Obama too.
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Please explain how Obama had "far less experience" than Palin? Say what you want about Obama, but he never just quit being a senator because it was too hard.
He voted "present" over 150 times as an Illinois Rep. Tell me he didn't think it was too hard. Look at what he's done, or more importantly NOT done, regarding Afghanistan, the economy, health care, etc., etc., etc.
Then feel free to play Hide and Go **** Yourself.
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Did we pick up another liberal chew toy or did derportleberals merely pcik a new name to use?
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Did we pick up another liberal chew toy or did derportleberals merely pcik a new name to use?
Yes.
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Why is it that "modern" liberals all want to CRIMINALIZE, DEMAND and FORCE those who disagree to conform to their ideal? An ideal that lead to over 110,000,000 murders last cantury. Consult Dr. Rummel and the Statistics of Democide to confirm. An utterly bankrupt system of beliefs that "work" only with the majority deprived of anything resembling freedom. I find them despicable.
Yet 200 years ago, "Liberals" were our founsders. Advocates of rthe indivigual rights, life, liberty and the persute of happiness. Constructors of the most free and successful nation in world history, bar none.
Why do miodern liberals hate freedom, hate America's success and excitedly want to become serfs kissing Barry's ring to beg for adequate food, water, heat, light, medical treatment, shelter, indeed, they are DESPERATE to be dependent on Barry for their very lives, and the lives of their famlies.
A mental illness I think.