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Title: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: franksolich on November 12, 2009, 07:19:39 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6994227

Oh my.

My fellow Nebraskan, Omaha Steve:

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Omaha Steve  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 06:44 PM
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Venting... After 35 years customer service hung up on me
 
I remember my mom and dad using and shopping at this store and getting in home service from this company 50 years ago. The love affair ended today. We called last week to schedule a service appointment. This Friday and Saturday were already booked. Marta took the day off work to be here TODAY. They were supposed to be here between 1-5. I got home at 4. They hadn't been here yet.

Near the end of dinner Marta called to see when they would get here. 2 operators later we were told they would take care of it now. The next operator explained that the system went down yesterday. Everything about appointments for today was lost. When I asked them to send somebody out yet today, they said they couldn't.

I asked how they could treat me like this after 35 years. I wanted something for Marta's wasted day. The operator (yes here in the USA) knew I was close to losing it. She hung up on me.

Three years ago after the service center left the area, we didn't renew. We had had problems with a call center that was outside the USA. They called begging for another chance. We knew they were competing with Wal-mart and gave them another chance.

I did phone work for 2 years. I know 1 rule is never hang up on a customer. I was livid over this. Marta called the 800 # right back. After hearing all the reasons why we are upset, the company just can't extend our contract or make restitution for Marta's precious lost day. They also can't get here this late.

I won't name the company out of long respect. We will have everything done for our annual service, then cancel for a refund for the remaining time. They still rate high on the items they sell.

America ain't the land of customer service anymore. We lost something in a boardroom fight due to performing for the stock holder, not the customer.

A very sad day at our house.

It's a big bonfire; my fellow Nebraskan draws well on Skins's island, better than franksolich draws on conservativecave. 

A few primitive comments, selected at random:

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cynatnite  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 06:57 PM
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4. If they have no respect for you, there is no reason not to tell us who the company is.

franksolich suspects it's the world-famous Nebraska Furniture Mart.

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napi21  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 06:58 PM
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5. You don't have to name the co. I think I already know who it is.

I stopped shopping there many years ago. Some of their products & services are still OK, but way too many are not, and cust. serv. started to slip a long time ago.

I too worked customer service and I try to be patient with anyone who I'm talking to because I know most of the time the problem is not their fault, but you have no idea how many times I've said "Yes I know it's not YOUR FAULT, but guess what? I got YOU right now!"

Give them up! When they finally go out of business, maybe SOME idiot inside mgmt. might realize how badly they screwed up!

franksolich doesn't think the Nebraska Furniture Mart's going out of business any time soon.


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OPERATIONMINDCRIME  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 07:06 PM
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10. Really... People Are On Your Side With This?

You way over-reacted. Do you think you are king of the world or something? Your demand and reaction is full of arrogance.

Shit happens. We've all probably had a similar experience where we took off just to have a no show. At least they had a legitimate reason. Shit happens. But you actually think you can demand they still come out right then and there, and that the world will actually stop for you and *poof*, they'll come right over? You actually think that by demanding compensation for her lost day, that there's a chance in hell you'd get it? That's not exactly a healthy mindset as it relates to the expectations of customer service. I can totally understand why she chose to hang up on an irrational and abusive caller.

Totally irrational response to an otherwise circumstantial event. You should really try and work on being more reasonable.

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Omaha Steve  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #10
 
12. That is some shoulder you have to cry on
 
I'm tolerant. I've never put a single DUer on ignore. Hmmm.

Thanks for the perspective.

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 07:25 PM
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14. Who Is The One Crying Exactly?

"Whaaaaaa they wouldn't cater to my completely irrational demands that they come over THAT INSTANT and then reimburse me for time lost. I'm NEVER dealing with them AGAIN!!!! (stomp stomp)"

But you just go on thinkin that you were owed all of that and that you are on the superior ground. Yup. That's a winner for sure...

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Omaha Steve  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 07:37 PM
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18. Are YOU 35 years old yet?

After well over 50 years in the family. 35 years ago right after Marta and I married we signed a contract for service. Yes I expect something when I'm f'd. You take all the crap you want in life. I (Marta and I) won't!

Judging by a quick goggle, I see we aren't the only people done taking shit from company's that get our $.

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 07:45 PM
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21. Suck It Up.

Shit happens.

Your expectations in this situation were completely irrational. I don't personally give a rat's ass how old you are or how long you've been with them.

And if it's one thing I'm known for it's not taking crap from anybody. But that's not what we have here. They didn't give you crap. They gave you a reasonable explanation. And your standing firm accomplished nothing. You act as if by 'not taking crap' you accomplished something. What did you accomplish? You made them lose your business? Boohoo. But who will you get now? Regardless of who it is, do you honestly think for a second that THEY would've come out or compensated your wife for her time? Short answer? No, they wouldn't have.

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cynatnite  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 07:46 PM
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22. Rational or not, OMC, he's got a right to dump the company if he's not happy with it.

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 08:49 PM
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40. Absolutely.

I never said otherwise. It's the story and reaction itself, of which the poster seems to feel deserving of some sort of accolades (and which sad enough some are giving him), that I'm most focused on.

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Omaha Steve  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 07:54 PM
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24. Again your how old?
 
You don't seem to know what customer service was like 35 years ago. The local cable (Cox Omaha) company gave my mom $25 when they were 15 minutes late for a service call 4 months ago. She has only been on their phone service for a year. Look them up.

All 5 members of our family have done customer service on the phone. But then my youngest is 30. We all know what service used to be. To bad you don't.

We are leaving a company after a very long relationship. You it seems, will never know what that means.

Keep telling yourself you are adequate over and over....

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Old Codger  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-11-09 08:06 PM
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29. Hey Steve

He and people like him are the reason customer service is pretty much gone anymore, they are perfectly willing to allow themselves to be f***ed over and just keep on taking it.. I agree with your stance, CS sucks form most companies and there are too many other ones selling the same things..

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 08:51 PM
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41. ROFLMAO.

This thread is too ****ing funny...

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 09:03 PM
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48. Bet Ya Your Mom Wasn't Abusive Or Irrationally Demanding Either.

You say the comparison as if they were similar. In order to be similar your mother would've had to be as abusive and irrational in her demands as you were. Betcha she wasn't.

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Omaha Steve  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 09:20 PM
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51. The cable guy had the $25 certificate in hand when mom opened the door
 
She is 85 and doing fine on Medicare and Social Security. Wonder why she is a great D?

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Arugula Latte  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-11-09 08:13 PM
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31. Oh my, I can't believe that this particular DUer is lecturing you on being "reasonable"

Oh, that is rich, rich, rich.

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 08:52 PM
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43. Too Much Fun...

It's like being a lone sane visitor in an insane asylum, and hearing all the inmates claim how 'crazy' he is.


**********END OF PRIMITIVE BRAWL**********


Oops, franksolich was wrong.

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Omaha Steve  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 08:36 PM
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38. Your right
 
Sears it is. A quick goggle brought up pages of problems their customer service has caused people of late. Since we put the contract on a non Sears (they don't own their own card) card, we are disputing the original charge for failing on service. The phone rep says we should win a full refund. Now that is service!

There's lots more at the bonfire.
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: Carl on November 12, 2009, 07:31:04 AM
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-11-09 08:52 PM
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43. Too Much Fun...

It's like being a lone sane visitor in an insane asylum, and hearing all the inmates claim how 'crazy' he is.

That should really be in the posts that stand alone thread as a description of the island.

Let me just say after 20 years at NAPA and now here the OP is exactly what the 60s generation of liberals are to deal with.
They expect to be coddled and a$$ kissed without ever extending any sign of respect or courtesy.
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: Duchess on November 12, 2009, 07:35:10 AM
Some people's business, you are happy to lose.This is the kind of person who is looking for a lawsuit.
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: Karin on November 12, 2009, 07:56:20 AM
That's true, Duchess.

I thought it was Sears right off the bat.   To Omaha's point, it is maddening to be told to be at home between 8 and 5 on a certain day.  If you both work, someone has to take a freakin vacation day, and then be a prisoner in their own home.  Can't even take care of errands.  I think an enterprising, innovative business could do better than that. 

In a similar vein, the other night we ordered Chinese for delivery.  After an hour and no-show, we called back.  They ran out of the Moo Shu pork, and rather than calling us back, they just blew it off altogether.  My husband decided to give them another chance, because we were starving, but he did tell them "if you don't get here quick, I'm going to have to start eating my own cats!"    :lmao:
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: Alpha Mare on November 12, 2009, 08:04:57 AM
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I wanted something for Marta's wasted day.

He wanted his GIMME!
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 12, 2009, 08:16:28 AM
It was Bill Clinton that said he was going to take America from an industrial based economy to an information and service based economy.....Well, based on the information we have .....how's that service thing working out for you DUmmies?

Until I have a serious health problem, government run healthcare and DUmmies are going to keep me laughing.



Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: asdf2231 on November 12, 2009, 08:17:15 AM
This guy is an idiot.

A whiny ass idiot.

There is a reason that my wife and I have bought appliances through Sears for our entire time together. Theres a reason why my parents used them for their entire lives.

What a whiny bitch.
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: Duchess on November 12, 2009, 08:39:16 AM
That's true, Duchess.

I thought it was Sears right off the bat.   To Omaha's point, it is maddening to be told to be at home between 8 and 5 on a certain day.  If you both work, someone has to take a freakin vacation day, and then be a prisoner in their own home.  Can't even take care of errands.  I think an enterprising, innovative business could do better than that. 

In a similar vein, the other night we ordered Chinese for delivery.  After an hour and no-show, we called back.  They ran out of the Moo Shu pork, and rather than calling us back, they just blew it off altogether.  My husband decided to give them another chance, because we were starving, but he did tell them "if you don't get here quick, I'm going to have to start eating my own cats!"    :lmao:

My husband, years ago, made me consider something when I got irritable about customer service--which did I want more--the goods or services I was paying for, or to show my rear end? What action/attitude would best accomplish the goal of getting what I was paying for? It's akin to the concept that the best revenge is living well.
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 12, 2009, 09:53:52 AM
Some people seem to be unable to deal with the concept that Shit Happens, and the other people involved don't owe you a shitpile of money every time it does.  Steve is a whining, handout-demanding little bitch.

And good luck getting a service call from WalMart, Steve, your extortion attempt on that score is built on a foundation as sound as the hostage scene in "Blazing Saddles," and you're no Mel Brooks.
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: jukin on November 12, 2009, 10:03:37 AM
Some people's business, you are happy to lose.This is the kind of person who is looking for a lawsuit.

I never try to lose business until I have jacked up the pric to where they won't take it anymore.  Somehow the extra money soothes me.
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: USA4ME on November 12, 2009, 11:06:13 AM
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME

That's not exactly a healthy mindset...

It doesn't matter what the issue "relates to," who are you to lecture others on what is and isn't a healthy mindset given that you post at the DUmp?  I won't even get into the discussion of how unhealthy a mindset it is to be a liberal.

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As to Sears; I will admit that unless you stay on their case, it's tough to get them to nail down a service call.  Last time we had issues with them, my wife and I ended up having to drive to the store and get one of their employees to order our service call because we had tried twice on the phone and both times they never showed.  What I've ended up doing is getting the names of these service people and calling them independently.  More than just a few of them do the work free lance, and for a lot less than what Sears charges.  Sears not having their act together in the service area is costing them money, but that's their problem.

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Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: AllosaursRus on November 12, 2009, 11:55:16 AM
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"if you don't get here quick, I'm going to have to start eating my own cats!"

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! You owe me a keyboard!!!!!!!! Hahahahahahaha!!
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: Duchess on November 12, 2009, 01:43:29 PM
It doesn't matter what the issue "relates to," who are you to lecture others on what is and isn't a healthy mindset given that you post at the DUmp?  I won't even get into the discussion of how unhealthy a mindset it is to be a liberal.

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As to Sears; I will admit that unless you stay on their case, it's tough to get them to nail down a service call.  Last time we had issues with them, my wife and I ended up having to drive to the store and get one of their employees to order our service call because we had tried twice on the phone and both times they never showed.  What I've ended up doing is getting the names of these service people and calling them independently.  More than just a few of them do the work free lance, and for a lot less than what Sears charges.  Sears not having their act together in the service area is costing them money, but that's their problem.

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It must depend on where you live. Almost all my appliances are from Sears, I buy the extended warranty on all of them, where they come out once a year to do "preventive maintenance". So far, I've never had a problem with either the appliances, or with the service guy coming out to do the maintenance. I generally get everything done in one day.
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: GOBUCKS on November 12, 2009, 02:40:05 PM
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The operator (yes here in the USA) knew I was close to losing it. She hung up on me.

Wonder how the operator knew that. It would be great if we could hear a recording of that call the way they do with the 911 calls. I'll bet a lot of people at Sears have had a good laugh.
Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: vesta111 on November 12, 2009, 04:23:17 PM
Wonder how the operator knew that. It would be great if we could hear a recording of that call the way they do with the 911 calls. I'll bet a lot of people at Sears have had a good laugh.

I believe Steve's frustration is with the attitude of the CS more then anything.

It is very difficult to work in this line of business and satisfy an angry customer.

CS needs to treat each and every complaint no matter how small as if this is the most important complaint they have ever received.

Most places in my area hire independent contractors to service appliances.  Once the item is bought, The store itself has to call in contractors to deliver, set up or repair the item.

Calling a store and going off on the CS is not the way to go. The store calls in the contractor and makes a date  and time for the contractor to be at their home.

Steve should have checked HIS paper work and called the contractor who's name address and phone number should be somewhere with his bill of sale, the day before to insure the work could be expected to be done the next day.

Steve is really a jerk you know, he leaves his wife at home alone to wait for strangers  with no information on who they are to enter their home. 

Steve is lucky he didn't come to a cleaned out house and wife tied up in the cellar.



 

Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: USA4ME on November 12, 2009, 04:44:47 PM
It must depend on where you live. Almost all my appliances are from Sears, I buy the extended warranty on all of them, where they come out once a year to do "preventive maintenance". So far, I've never had a problem with either the appliances, or with the service guy coming out to do the maintenance. I generally get everything done in one day.

Oh yeah, no doubt certain areas are more on the ball than others.  As far as scheduling, I'm not sure the ones in this area even have a ball.

I should clarify that 10 years ago Sears wasn't that bad around here.  Don't know what happened but it was clear and noticable.

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Title: Re: Omaha Steve has a sad day; vents
Post by: GOBUCKS on November 12, 2009, 05:35:35 PM
Almost all my appliances are from Sears, I buy the extended warranty on all of them, where they come out once a year to do "preventive maintenance". So far, I've never had a problem with either the appliances, or with the service guy coming out to do the maintenance. I generally get everything done in one day.

To each his own, but extended warranties are BY FAR the most profitable item sold by any store. The odds are strongly against getting your money's worth.