The Conservative Cave
Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: thundley4 on November 11, 2009, 09:52:20 PM
-
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091111/capt.59c9c57cbd4342c98a0d735db2c0a336.obama_afghanistan_wx104.jpg?x=400&y=266&q=85&sig=uc37vE5mPnN.B3DmnghMjQ--)
In this image released by the White House, President Barack Obama meets with his national security team to discuss Afghanistan in Situation Room of the White House in Washington, Tuesday, Nov. 11, 2009.
"WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama does not plan to accept any of the Afghanistan war options presented by his national security team, pushing instead for revisions to clarify how and when U.S. troops would turn over responsibility to the Afghan government, a senior administration official said Wednesday.
That stance comes in the midst of forceful reservations about a possible troop buildup from the U.S. ambassador in Afghanistan, Karl Eikenberry, according to a second top administration official.
In strongly worded classified cables to Washington, Eikenberry said he had misgivings about sending in new troops while there are still so many questions about the leadership of Afghan President Hamid Karzai.
Obama is still close to announcing his revamped war strategy — most likely shortly after he returns from a trip to Asia that ends on Nov. 19.
But the president raised questions at a war council meeting Wednesday that could alter the dynamic of both how many additional troops are sent to Afghanistan and what the timeline would be for their presence in the war zone, according to the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss Obama's thinking." Yahoo, sort of (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_us_afghanistan)
Now we know why he hasn't released a decision yet. The :censored:tard has no clue of what he wants to do. :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
-
Now we know why he hasn't released a decision yet. The :censored: tard has no clue of what he wants to do. :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
More specifically, he has no idea which of the choices he'd LIKE to take - abandon the troops in the field or cut and run like we all said he'd do during the campaign - is going to cost him the least in the polls. :loser:
-
More specifically, he has no idea which of the choices he'd LIKE to take - abandon the troops in the field or cut and run like we all said he'd do during the campaign - is going to cost him the least in the polls. :loser:
\
HI,
Boy, I see this situation totally differently. First of all, the one and only consideration for BO is the political consequences. He could care less about our troops or the Afghans, his only concern is how this affects him politically. He his trying to constantly keep the radical of his base happy.
He is a weak man who is only interested in imlementing his communist agenda and could care less about anything else in the world.
regards,
5412
-
Welcome to Vietnam - Part Duex.
-
The options are simple:
Fight to win, and win
OR
Don't fight to win and lose.
Sadly, I doubt Obama has the balls to fight to win.
-
More specifically, he has no idea which of the choices he'd LIKE to take - abandon the troops in the field or cut and run like we all said he'd do during the campaign - is going to cost him the least in the polls. :loser:
I think he's just continuing his state and US Senate ways by NOT taking a stand or making any concrete and concise choices on any issue (except abortion)....
Especially any issue that would or could make him appear less like a god....
Only problem is you can't vote "present" when you are CIC and president....
-
I would go as far as to suggest he simply doesn`t want to take any political ownership of the war.
As soon as he moves in a way that differs radically from the policies of the previous Administration he accepts the consequences for them.
Much easier to always be campaigning against something then having to defend his own actions.
Lives are on the line and he would rather be complaining about what he inherited.
He is one sick sob.
-
[youtube=425,350]julnt19Pl8E[/youtube].
-
Welcome to Vietnam - Part Duex.
I'll send you guys a postcard. :banghead:
-
Why is he so hell bent on losing this just so he can say I didn't do this it is all Bush's fault I just don't understand?
-
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that she is concerned about Afghanistan's "corruption, lack of transparency, poor governance (and) absence of the rule of law."
And patriotic Americans are concerned about the current administration's "corruption, lack of transparency, poor governance (and) absence of the rule of law." Telling President Karzai about his problems doesn't mean alot when you're just as guilty, if not more.
.
-
WTF, over.
:censored:
-
WTF, over.
:censored:
You and me both brother!
-
He is not intersted in winning, that is for damn sure! :banghead:
-
He is not intersted in winning, that is for damn sure! :banghead:
How is a loser supposed to know anything about winning anything other than a ACORN rigged election
-
The options are simple:
Fight to win, and win
OR
Don't fight to win and lose.
Sadly, I doubt Obama has the balls to fight to win.
And if he is going to choose option 2, then our soldiers need to come home ASAP. This wishy-washy do-nothing policy of Obama is going to get them killed.
-
And if he is going to choose option 2, then our soldiers need to come home ASAP. This wishy-washy do-nothing policy of Obama is going to get them killed.
The POTUS does not care how many lives are lost he wants the photo op's
-
Oh come on guys. It's hard to come up with a plan that makes it "look" like you want to win, but will let you lose.
-
I heard on one of the radio talk shows(can't remember which one) that he wants break-down reports from Afghanistan leaders by section before he can decide...aka micromanaging the boots on the ground and those in charge. This is a stalling technique. The man doesn't have a clue on what to do...this is what happens when you elect a community organizer to the Presidential office.
-
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that she is concerned about Afghanistan's "corruption, lack of transparency, poor governance (and) absence of the rule of law."
And patriotic Americans are concerned about the current administration's "corruption, lack of transparency, poor governance (and) absence of the rule of law." Telling President Karzai about his problems doesn't mean alot when you're just as guilty, if not more.
:yeahthat: :werd: :bravo: :exactly: :agree:
-
Is he suggesting his generals gave less than their absolute best estimates of the situation and how to deal with it?
If so he needs to replace those generals but that would him responsible for the consequences.
If he wants a new policy that the generals did not have to account for he should announce this new policy and go from there but I think he will keep asking for new plans until support drops low enough to give him the political cover he needs to withdraw.
TRANSLATION: Leaving American kids to die cold, tired and demoralized in the middle of nowhere while he games the polling data.
-
Judging from the news coverage this morning, it appears the yet-to-be-revealed master plan is turning into "Run away, run away!!!"
-
Judging from the news coverage this morning, it appears the yet-to-be-revealed master plan is turning into "Run away, run away!!!"
Can't say I'm too disappointed.
I for one have no urge to race-off to Afghanistan or anywhere else with this guy as CinC. I think my bunlets deserve better if I don't come home.
Sure, America will get hit again but it isn't like they weren't warned. Maybe next time they think twice about electing slick-talking America-hating Marxist neophytes just because they offer Hope with a side of Free Pony. America can survive al Qaeda, it can't survive another Obama.
-
I'd like my retirement plans to change (or go back to even existing), but that's not reality, so I deal with it.
Maybe he should learn to do the same.
Pathetic.
-
Has someone told Obama he can't vote present as the President? Has someone told Obama the President is there to make decisions...even difficult ones? Yes, Obama you will anger your left wing base by sending more troops, and yes Obama, you will anger those on the right if you don't send troops...pull your big boy pants up and decide.
What's more important? rioting moonbats or dead soldiers?
-
Has someone told Obama he can't vote present as the President? Has someone told Obama the President is there to make decisions...even difficult ones? Yes, Obama you will anger your left wing base by sending more troops, and yes Obama, you will anger those on the right if you don't send troops...pull your big boy pants up and decide.
What's more important? rioting moonbats or dead soldiers?
Now that's a good one. He sends more troops and the leftards protest. He doesn't send more troops, and more soldiers die in battle and the anti-war libtards protest anyway.
-
Barry should be required to read The Art of War once thru every day, AND watch this at 90db...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU
After a year, in might sink in.
-
Judging from the news coverage this morning, it appears the yet-to-be-revealed master plan is turning into "Run away, run away!!!"
I suspect that most of us here knew he was going to be a surrender-monkey.
-
Barry should be required to read The Art of War once thru every day, AND watch this at 90db...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU
After a year, in might sink in.
I love that song.
-
Oh yeah.....quite the cadence march. Ours was about Eskimo women, and trains in the eastbound track, Airborne Rangers and lives of.... danger.......they were so lame in comparison, so lame. :cheersmate:
-
Can't say I'm too disappointed.
I for one have no urge to race-off to Afghanistan or anywhere else with this guy as CinC. I think my bunlets deserve better if I don't come home.
Sure, America will get hit again but it isn't like they weren't warned. Maybe next time they think twice about electing slick-talking America-hating Marxist neophytes just because they offer Hope with a side of Free Pony. America can survive al Qaeda, it can't survive another Obama.
Americans are known for one thing if nothing else, short memories. Why do you think we have pampers boy running things?
-
Americans are known for one thing if nothing else, short memories. Why do you think we have pampers boy running things?
Yep,they like the door to the candy store being thrown open until they get a toothache from it.
-
There're really only two viable approaches:
1. Go in heavy and stay long, nation-building, the Long War, all of that stuff. It works, but it takes an enduring and unwavering commitment (Which the US government has proven to be exceptionally disinclined to invest in counterinsurgent conflicts since the Philippine Insurrection).
2. Say "**** it" and go home.
Anything else is just a longer, more casualty-producing, and much more expensive version of #2.
-
This is the most Statist government we've had since we kicked out King George. The king was mad, and so is Obama.