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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on November 11, 2009, 04:03:08 PM
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author
Health Care, Section 7203 and 7201 problem
Why is it that our representatives are being so much more hostile to Citizens than to the insurance companies, assuming that people will be the ones abusing the system, and need to be criminalized harshly?
If you can't afford to buy health insurance (minimum cost is $5,300 per year per person) you get taxed instead. If you can't afford that tax, you go to jail for a up to year and get fined up to $100,000.
:wtf:
If you are still poor and can't afford health insurance a second time, it is 2 years and $500,000.
But in comparison, if the insurance company abuses you by continuing to cancel your insurance or by denying you care the only options offered to you is to appeal to an federal agency that can choose whether or not to investigate. The investigation is not mandated. If they choose to investigate and then decide that the insurance company did anything wrong they can Recommend to the state enforcement agency that they do something about it. The federal agency is hobbled from doing anything directly.
If the State agency isn't controlled by the insurance companies and chooses to investigate on their own too, and also finds any wrongdoing, then they can choose to impose a fine and/or order service to be continued.
The fines for the insurance company aren't mandated to be large, and there are no big onerous penalties comparable in any way to being put in jail. The goal is assumed to be to correct the situation, not to criminalize anyone.
Why are "We the people" criminalized, fined huge amounts and threatened with jail for denying companies money, but if we can get though this huge bureaucratic process to prove we were abused they are merely corrected and slapped on the wrist for threatening our lives and well being?
Our reps are writing this bill with the built in assumption that people need to be treated like criminals all the time, and corporations are the victims that need to be protected.
Just like when they wrote the "bankruptcy reform" laws, we are the bad guys doing wrong and corporations are the victims who need relief.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6993132
How's that hope n change working for you? :lmao: :lmao:
dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list
1. Because we aren't able to match what the insurance companies pay in "campaign contributions"
and they figure at election time we have no choice but to vote for the Democrats no matter how badly they've abused us.
And you will pull the D lever every time. Or at least claim to if you want to remain on skins island.
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ThomCat
Our reps are writing this bill with the built in assumption that people need to be treated like criminals all the time
The foundation of liberalism is that people are too stupid to know what's best for them and that gov't should tell them what to do from cradle to grave. How stupid does the ThomCat primitive have to be to not have noticed this? No doubt he's heard it. But I guarantee you that even after all this, he'll still refuse to admit it.
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When Pelosi was trying to ram this through the HOR last Saturday, the DimRats defeated ELEVEN amendments that would have required congress critters to use the public option.
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-11-09 11:27 PM
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12. Where did you get the $5300/year minimum from? (nt)
ThomCat must be a dirty freeper. :lmao: :rotf:
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I noticed not a single one made a peep about that whole "I won't raise taxes on anyone who makes less than 250K a year" thing that some prominent figure in the administration said over and over again during the campaign. Funny that...
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When Pelosi was trying to ram this through the HOR last Saturday, the DimRats defeated ELEVEN amendments that would have required congress critters to use the public option.
They know a bad thing when they see it. That's just another thing that makes it clear that this is not about healthcare, it's about expansion of government.