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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on November 09, 2009, 07:16:54 PM
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-09-09 06:43 PM
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Obama: 'This is a Health Care Bill, Not an Abortion Bill' Updated at 4:33 PM
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 06:46 PM by kpete
Source: ABC News
Obama: 'This is a Health Care Bill, Not an Abortion Bill'
President Says Still More Work to be Done on Legislation Passed by House
By JAKE TAPPER, KAREN TRAVERS, SUNLEN MILLER and DEVIN DWYER
Nov. 9, 2009
President Obama said today that Congress needs to change abortion-related language in the health care bill passed by the House of Representatives this weekend.
"I laid out a very simple principle, which is this is a health care bill, not an abortion bill," Obama said. "And we're not looking to change what is the principle that has been in place for a very long time, which is federal dollars are not used to subsidize abortions.
Saying the bill cannot change the status quo regarding the ban on federally funding abortions, the President said "there are strong feelings on both sides" about an amendment passed on Saturday and added to the legislation, "and what that tells me is that there needs to be some more work before we get to the point where we're not changing the status quo."
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I want to make sure that the provision that emerges meets that test -- that we are not in some way sneaking in funding for abortions, but, on the other hand, that we're not restricting women's insurance choices," he said.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abc-news-exclusive-obama...
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-09-09 06:45 PM
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3. Oh, for ****'S SAKE
Reproductive care including abortion and birth control, IS HEALTH CARE!!!!
The fact YOU don't need it doesn't make it any less so!
I am disappointed to find out he's got the same arrogant male blindness displayed by too many here and elsewhere.
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-09-09 06:47 PM
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6. Oh bullshit.
This gallant stand by women's organizations on behalf of poor women of America - is bullshit. This does nothing for the women, up to 150% of poverty, who will be on Medicaid.
Obama is exactly right. They tried to sneak abortion funding in through the exchange and they lost.
Time to quit playing games, like pretending birth control is involved in any way, and solve the damn problem.
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-09-09 08:01 PM
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20. It's not legal because MALES made this rule . . . we need to fight it --
We need to fund birth control and abortion -- and certainly women shouldn't need
permission to buy health insurance which coves birth control and abortion!!
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-09-09 08:03 PM
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21. Good question . . . the problem is with the GOP propaganda . .. however,
both the pill and other contraceptives should be covered and so should abortion --
whether elective or for health of the female.
And then this post. Depressing.
Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-09-09 06:47 PM
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4. We CANT use federal dollars to subsidize abortions! None would remain to subsidize private dividends
Sad. So many needless lives lost with countless abortions that would bankrupt the system with the sheer numbers. :(
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Saying the bill cannot change the status quo regarding the ban on federally funding abortions, ...
If that's the case, then all this amendment did was to re-emphasize the laws that are already on the books. Why would you care if the amendment further strengthened the ban? Unless, of course, you really want to circumvent the ban and the bill minus the amendment *does* change the status quo.
This nitwit in the WH lies too much to be trusted about anything.
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